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I’ve been saying this for years
ACC on life support, 7 members getting ready to pull the plug
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when is bailor going to go acquire Baylor college of medicine?
apparently thats how Texas feels since they kill all of their conferences
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*Cardale Jones has left the chat
apparently, CJ STroud did too
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What did he say?
nothing the part about playing school was a joke about that fake ass assessment score that said he was dumb as a rock.
i hope he comes here and tears it up to shut up the people who said don't draft him
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Oregon is nowhere near the level of institution UVA is.
They’d gladly kill the ACC for UNC, UVA and Georgia Tech. Not sure ND ever will put itself so close to so many in conference rivals.
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i wouldn't mind UVA in the SEC..beautiful campus
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Small private basketball school.....send em to the big east
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Dude that laid it out has an impressive resume.
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it's enough for me to choose them over udub and oregon
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The SEC is not taking VaTech and NCSU.
Quick CFB economics:
- You have to be able to generate $100+ million to get into the B1G or the SEC. That's really hard to do.
- Basketball doesn't matter.
- What matters is viewership, especially 4 million plus games; CFP involvement (this will be very big as a share or more would be very valuable)
- The state you are in is not very valuable. Proof - getting LA, the second largest market in the US was only worth $16 million per year to the B1G. It's just not as relevant when the numbers are so large.
TV Viewership:
| Rank | School and Avg Attendance | Conf | P5/G5 |
| 10 | Clemson — 2.59M | ACC | P5 |
| 15 | Florida State — 2.03M | ACC | P5 |
| 43 | NC State — 881K | ACC | P5 |
| 46 | North Carolina — 849K | ACC | P5 |
| 49 | Georgia Tech — 837K | ACC | P5 |
| 59 | Miami FL— 608K | ACC | P5 |
| 76 | Virginia Tech — 264K | ACC | P5 |
| 79 | Virginia — 237K | ACC | P5 |
| 91 | Duke — 115.7K | ACC | P5 |
As you can see Clemson and FSU have decent viewership, but everyone else sucks. You mention VaTech, but they are 76th and 79th, worse than 8 G5 schools. Worse than 8 G5 schools - the SEC and the B1G won't have anything to do with those teams.
Well, what about CFP? Clemson and FSU obviously have NCs recently. Miami has been a while. None of the others have hardly sniffed what would be a 12 team CFP.
None are teams that get people excited, so they won't help by playing better teams.
Miami and UNC are marginal because they would have been in at least one 12 team CFP, but that's nothing to rely on.
The SEC is not giving teams full shares to teams who average less viewers than 8 G5 teams, and average users in the 250K range.
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UNC, UVa, and GT? Not a chance. They don't want to lose money. Over the last 12 years, UVa and UNC each would have received a single CFP share in a 12 team CFP. TV numbers are horrible.
| Rank | School and Avg Attendance | Conf | P5/G5 |
| 46 | North Carolina — 849K | ACC | P5 |
| 49 | Georgia Tech — 837K | ACC | P5 |
| 79 | Virginia — 237K | ACC | P5 |
No TV, no CFP chances, no invite.
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They already tried to get them ten years ago.
Great school and the Atlanta market.
It’s not all football with the BIG. Never has been.
If they tried to poach from the SEC, it’d be Vandy they’d go after.
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10 years ago in CFB was a totally different market when regions and states mattered. They don't any more. What matters is eyeballs and CFP shares. They don't provide any of that. They would lose in excess of $150 million every year inviting those teams into the B1G.
The B1G isn't going to expand for the sake of expanding. This would be expanding for the sake of expanding.
Because the market theory of CFB economics the Atlanta market isn't nearly as relevant in 2023 and going forward.
It's never just about football. It's about money. The B1G does require AAC membership, but that doesn't replace the need to earn their $100 million+ share. None of those three come close. I mean, it's not even a close call on UVa.
Vandy would laugh at them. I'm a Vandy grad. Vandy is not going anywhere.
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Regions and states don’t matter?
This is what has pushed the BIG to expand for the last 30 years. A larger footprint.
Will be the same when they expand again. Whenever that happens to be.
I have no idea what Rutgers “earns” but I’m assuming it’s less than the three schools I assume would top their wish list.