AP Poll is interesting ...

Deep Creek said:
I can but I don't matter. The committee doesn't seem to be concerned about schedule difficulty. Otherwise you wouldn't be rated where you are. SOS is either used as a criteria or it isn't. And from what the CFP committee has shown us, they use it in certain situations and don't in others. It doesn't seem to be impacting the CFP ranking of Texas, Indiana or Miaimi. I just want the committee to send a message that encourages good OOC scheduling...at least to a certain extent.

But let's be real. When the season starts, (or even way before that time in regards to OOC scheduling) teams can only control how they play against the teams assigned by the conference (which they don't have much control over) and their OOC opponents (which they have 100% control over).. But if SOS is going to be a metric, at the end of the season, teams are somewhat at the mercy of how their well or poorly their opponents performed that season.

In your case, your rival up north and the skunkweasels screwed your SOS. You guys at least made the effort by scheduling Michigan OOC. Aggie being as good as they this year should help your schedule a hell of a lot more than OU or Michigan.

Miami gets some of the same credit for scheduling Florida. They didn't know they'd be playing a Florida team that was a shadow of its former self.

Penn State scheduled West Virginia which may not be the same as Michigan or Florida, but still not bad.

It looks like Indiana did not make an effort to upgrade their OOC. It was reported they even paid $1million to get out of a home and home with Louisville which would have improved things some because I think they'd have beaten Louisville.

Good thing is all will get to validate the committee's placement.
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and PSU's Kent State game was a reschedule impacted by covid and other schedule changes. That wasn't supposed be the cupcake it was. Not that they would have ever challenged, but the 56-0 route with backups for half the game is not the normal schedule.
 
Thiefery said:
you can't penalize Texas for their schedule.. wasn't like they scheduled OOC FCS schools.. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to in good fashion. They flat out got beat at home to UGA, and yes the Vanderbilt game was close (sloppy sloppy play) but Vandy never had the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead.

If they beat Arkansas by 2 scores.. maybe 3.. same at home next week vs KY.. how can you hold that against them. All I heard the past decade was how Texas was getting beat up by the little 12.. all of the sudden this season we are lucky to have the easiest of the easy SEC conference schedule?

I know the big game is against aggy in 3 weeks.. so as long as they take care of business this talk won't even matter. Just curious to know since we are running the same schedule for conference next season.. will people still say the same thing even with us traveling to Columbus?
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Arky is gonna be close.....I think it's gonna be an uncomfortable Saturday for ya'll
 
RoyMunson said:
and PSU's Kent State game was a reschedule impacted by covid and other schedule changes. That wasn't supposed be the cupcake it was. Not that they would have ever challenged, but the 56-0 route with backups for half the game is not the normal schedule.
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But PSU did schedule West Virginia OOC. While they may not be a Michigan or Florida like Texas and Miami scheduled OOC, they are much better than anything Indiana did OOC. (West Virginia may well be as good as Michigan and Florida this year though.)
 
Deep Creek said:
But PSU did schedule West Virginia OOC. While they may not be a Michigan or Florida like Texas and Miami scheduled OOC, they are much better than anything Indiana did OOC. (West Virginia may well be as good as Michigan and Florida this year though.)
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yeah, I liked when they signed the West Virginia deal, but wished they would have kept Pitt too, that was always a good in-state game.
 
Deep Creek said:
But PSU did schedule West Virginia OOC. While they may not be a Michigan or Florida like Texas and Miami scheduled OOC, they are much better than anything Indiana did OOC. (West Virginia may well be as good as Michigan and Florida this year though.)
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Sometimes you can get screwed even by a perceived decent OOC scheduling. Since these games are often scheduled years in advance. Ohio State scheduled Cal when they were a 8 sometimes 9 or 10 win team most years in the mid 2000s, when the games got around in 2012 & 2013 Cal was a 3 and 1 win mess.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Sometimes you can get screwed even by a perceived decent OOC scheduling. Since these games are often scheduled years in advance. Ohio State scheduled Cal when they were a 8 sometimes 9 or 10 win team most years in the mid 2000s, when the games got around in 2012 & 2013 Cal was a 3 and 1 win mess.
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Dang right you can. The Cal game is a perfect example of schedules being made too damn far in advance IMHO.

The Michigan game with Texas is completely different. Michigan is coming off a natty IMMEDIATELY, not years ago.
 
Deep Creek said:
Dang right you can. The Cal game is a perfect example of schedules being made too damn far in advance IMHO.

The Michigan game with Texas is completely different. Michigan is coming off a natty IMMEDIATELY, not years ago.
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Texas usually schedules aggressively.. ND/SC/LSU/Ark (which was their best season under Pittman)/Bama/UM

next two years tosu, then UM at home
 
Across The Field said:
I think they made a hell of a statement with the rankings having Indiana at 5th. Unless they absolutely sink them if they lose to OSU, I can't see them being left out at this point.
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I think the fact there are 3 one loss teams in front of them is also important. I've said before ... if they win they are in. Lose close they are in. Get destroyed, I think they may be out.
 
Deep Creek said:
100% corrrect. Looks like the committee doesn't value current SOS except maybe as a tie breaker among teams they can't differentiate.
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You keep saying that ... 3 one loss teams are in front of them. That has to be based on SOS, right? Five were before them last week.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Lol @ The SEC teams ever giving up that free extra win.
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Laugh all you want, but if our 2-loss teams get seeded in the bottom 12 behind a 1 loss IU team, or BYU, they will think twice before going to 9 IC games. From my perspective, we almost always play a tough OOC - Clemson this year - and GaTech who is back on track to be good.

Some here laugh at SOS, but all you want us to do is make our schedules even more difficult. Wonder why that is.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
You keep saying that ... 3 one loss teams are in front of them. That has to be based on SOS, right? Five were before them last week.
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Miami, Indiana, Texas and Penn State don’t have any impressive wins. Texas and Penn State have only PLAYED one ranked team. Miami and Indiana haven’t played ANY. Yet all four are in the top 10 so SOS doesn’t seem to be a real bid deal. At least not right now.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Laugh all you want, but if our 2-loss teams get seeded in the bottom 12 behind a 1 loss IU team, or BYU, they will think twice before going to 9 IC games. From my perspective, we almost always play a tough OOC - Clemson this year - and GaTech who is back on track to be good.

Some here laugh at SOS, but all you want us to do is make our schedules even more difficult. Wonder why that is.
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All P2splus middling 2 (or whatever they are) should play OOC schedules like Georgia. But it is looking like there is no incentive to in regards to CFP. jmo
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Laugh all you want, but if our 2-loss teams get seeded in the bottom 12 behind a 1 loss IU team, or BYU, they will think twice before going to 9 IC games. From my perspective, we almost always play a tough OOC - Clemson this year - and GaTech who is back on track to be good.

Some here laugh at SOS, but all you want us to do is make our schedules even more difficult. Wonder why that is.
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Maybe the SEC looks better as a whole because essentially the whole conference gets +1 win for having a extra chicken shit game instead of 1/2 the conference having a extra L that is caused by that 9th conference game.
 
Deep Creek said:
All P2splus middling 2 (or whatever they are) should play OOC schedules like Georgia. But it is looking like there is no incentive to in regards to CFP. jmo
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This is true if you are a upper level program. Notice how they basically ignore Texas' weak ass schedule and say "you can only play the opponents you are handed" but Indiana doesn't get that same free pass
 
osubuckeye89 said:
This is true if you are a upper level program. Notice how they basically ignore Texas' weak ass schedule and say "you can only play the opponents you are handed" but Indiana doesn't get that same free pass
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Sure they have. They are #5 without having beaten a ranked team just like Texas hasn't. Same for Penn State #4 and Miami #9.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
It's only because they are undefeated, if they had 1 loss they wouldn't be in the field currently IMO
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Depends on who that loss was to. If it were against a good team, they'd still be in the field IMO. If they'd of loss to a Northern Illinois like Notre Dame, you're probably correct. If they lost to Bama, they'd probably still be very high. Losing to tOSU won't drop them out unless it is an absolute blowout IMO.
 
Deep Creek said:
Depends on who that loss was to. If it were against a good team, they'd still be in the field IMO. If they'd of loss to a Northern Illinois like Notre Dame, you're probably correct. If they lost to Bama, they'd probably still be very high. Losing to tOSU won't drop them out unless it is an absolute blowout IMO.
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I mean who on Indiana's schedule up to this point woulda been a "good loss"? lol. The 3 best teams they have played have records of 5-5, 5-5 & 5-4
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I mean who on Indiana's schedule up to this point woulda been a "good loss"? lol. The 3 best teams they have played have records of 5-5, 5-5 & 5-4
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None. That's why I said "IF" they'd have lost to a good team like Texas and Penn State did.

They haven't beaten a team with a winning record yet much less a ranked one. That doesn't seem to matter to the CFP.
 
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