Arch Manning news ...

@WhosYourDawggy lol IT is now making sure they put "Texas sources" are confident now.. think they are doing some backtracking themselves now lol.. i guess they can't find confirmation from people outside of their "sources"

This is what I love, this sight usually pumps up so much sunshine in the spring and it craters in June.. then they go off on their own subs for coming at them like it was their fault. They then subliminally blame the staff, they messed up, not their reporting to their subs..

They got bailed out last December with the OL haul (Banks flipping, Campbell signing on ESD but announcing NSD, etc) and of course the flip of Brooks from tosu..

we'll see how it plays out this cycle
 
Volbound1700 said:
True but nothing you have is really facts as well. It is all speculation. Hell, most of the discussions on this board are really opinions/speculations and not grounded in facts. College Football has always been speculation because you are dealing with young adults (sometimes called kids but that is not fair) who have their play impacted week by week by how their relationship with their girlfriend is going or matters we have no visibility to. The only person who truly knows what Arch wants and is interested in is Arch Manning himself and perhaps his family.

I may agree with you that I have Alabama probably further down than they should be but there just isn't a lot of chatter about it. Far more chatter with Georgia and Texas.

The only real disagreement that I have with you is LSU. I don't like LSU odds and we agree on that but I do think they are a still a long shot. You reference no official visit but I think that might be related to the fact that he lives in the area and it is a simple drive to the campus. I would be surprised if Arch went to LSU but not that surprised.

Yeah, I don't do USC jr for South Carolina either. I just write South Carolina for Gamecocks. Part of the reason why is the University of South Carolina is older than USC similar to Tennessee being older than Texas. There are a lot of variable to compare between the schools so I don't want to post anyone as Junior.
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Amen. But, you called me out when I did use a FACT. The fact that A&M had been in the conference since 2012 and has only played Georgia (another conference member) once in that time frame. Fact: Georgia has yet to visit Kyle Field yet they've been in the same conference as A&M for 10 years. Fact: SMU has played A&M THREE TIMES during that period. Fact: CMINOs. Conference Members In Name Only.
 
Deep Creek said:
Amen. But, you called me out when I did use a FACT. The fact that A&M had been in the conference since 2012 and has only played Georgia (another conference member) once in that time frame. Fact: Georgia has yet to visit Kyle Field yet they've been in the same conference as A&M for 10 years. Fact: SMU has played A&M THREE TIMES during that period. Fact: CMINOs. Conference Members In Name Only.
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What is this silliness all about?
 
Deep Creek said:
Amen. But, you called me out when I did use a FACT. The fact that A&M had been in the conference since 2012 and has only played Georgia (another conference member) once in that time frame. Fact: Georgia has yet to visit Kyle Field yet they've been in the same conference as A&M for 10 years. Fact: SMU has played A&M THREE TIMES during that period. Fact: CMINOs. Conference Members In Name Only.
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Which is why they are going to the 3+6. Every other year is going to be awesome. Won’t see teams undefeated any more.
 
Deep Creek said:
Amen. But, you called me out when I did use a FACT. The fact that A&M had been in the conference since 2012 and has only played Georgia (another conference member) once in that time frame. Fact: Georgia has yet to visit Kyle Field yet they've been in the same conference as A&M for 10 years. Fact: SMU has played A&M THREE TIMES during that period. Fact: CMINOs. Conference Members In Name Only.
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To be fair, I did NOT call out your fact as incorrect, I was just pointing out that in the past, this was common place with the SEC (1933-1980s) and that even when it was a 10 team league, you rarely saw all of the conference teams.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I’m of the opinion that a recruit doesn’t deserve their own thread, especially not one with 15 pages of novels
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You would HATE Vol Nation, there are several threads about tons of recruits (even ones that Tennessee doesn't have shot with and is not in the running for). In fact, they even have an entire section just dedicated to recruiting:

Tennessee Vols Recruiting

Tennessee Vols Recruiting. Discuss Vols football recruiting, Vols basketball recruiting, Vols baseball recruiting, Lady Vols recruiting in our Tennessee Vols Recruiting Forum.
www.volnation.com

And there is two Arch Manning threads in the general football discussion as well (one related to Fulmer speaking about the process):

Arch Manning open letter…

You mean anywhere but bammer. I think he is way too smart to go to Georgia.
www.volnation.com

Fulmer on Arch Manning recruitment

Who is more overrated- Arch or JG? The easy answer would be JG because he was terrible, but no one had him rated the top overall player either. Think about this, how bad would Arch look with Cornbread, Chaney 2.0’s lazy playcalling, and Will Friend’s turnstile of an oline? He might look more...
www.volnation.com
 
Volbound1700 said:
To be fair, I did NOT call out your fact as incorrect, I was just pointing out that in the past, this was common place with the SEC (1933-1980s) and that even when it was a 10 team league, you rarely saw all of the conference teams.
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But was it as infrequent as once every 10 years?
 
Deep Creek said:
But was it as infrequent as once every 10 years?
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Yes, go back and read the post about Tennessee-Florida. Tennessee went without playing some SEC teams over 10 years.

Tennessee generally played the same 5 teams most seasons: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt. Sometimes they would swap Ole Miss and Miss State but they really didn't start playing Florida or Georgia significantly until the formation of the divisions in 1992.

Tennessee had a gap of playing LSU in 1993 and not playing LSU again until 2000 (that is 7 years).

We had a gap with Georgia playing them in 1937 and not playing Georgia again until 1968. That is 31 years of not playing a Conference Opponent.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Yes, go back and read the post about Tennessee-Florida. Tennessee went without playing some SEC teams over 10 years.

Tennessee generally played the same 5 teams most seasons: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt. Sometimes they would swap Ole Miss and Miss State but they really didn't start playing Florida or Georgia significantly until the formation of the divisions in 1992.

Tennessee had a gap of playing LSU in 1993 and not playing LSU again until 2000 (that is 7 years).

We had a gap with Georgia playing them in 1937 and not playing Georgia again until 1968. That is 31 years of not playing a Conference Opponent.
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That’s horrible. That’s like not even being in the same conference. Know what the reason was for such?
 
Deep Creek said:
That’s horrible. That’s like not even being in the same conference. Know what the reason was for such?
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Well SEC was larger prior to 1963. Georgia Tech, Tulane, and prior to 1949, Sewanee, where in the Conference. Tennessee played Georgia Tech a lot because they were closer (in Atlanta).

However, this mentality of playing every team in your conference often only started to come about in the 1990s. This was not just common with the SEC. It was common to focus only on playing your rivals and regional teams and to actually play more OOC games. SEC teams often played 5 conference games and 5 OOC games in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Therefore you had some non-conference rivals played more than in-conference games such as Clemson-Georgia or LSU-Texas A&M.

It was just a different time and people didn't really care about always seeing your other conference foes.
 
@Deep Creek

The overall mentality of college football changed a lot keep in mind the following items:

1. Until 1970s or 1980s, the National Championships were awarded before bowl games and for the most parts teams just treated bowl games as glorified expedition games with some of the great teams not even having half their starters make the game

2. National Champions were not really taking seriously and there wasn't really a great method to decide champions until 1970s or 1980s. Even then, you really don't have the best playing in a championship game until the BCS era in 1998

The mentality for the sport was just different a long time ago. Stuff we care a lot about today clearly wasn't on the radar or important back then.

The funny thing is, if you want to go off of number of times a team was considered the National Champion, I think Princeton still has the most National Titles in College Football.
 
Cowboyinexile said:
He's going to Texas and he's going to have Chris Simms level of success. Maybe higher in the draft but we've seen this play out before.
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lmaoo keep wishcasting the worse.. unlike Simms, Arch is going to an actual QB developer.. Simms bought into Mack and Greg Davis.. and it took VY to finally convince Greg Davis to stand back and let him spread out the offense and do his magic.. then Colt came in and played the same offense.. then he got hurt, Mack had an aneurysm and decided to stop running the offense that gave him the most success and an offense the entire state of Texas began to run.. to go back in time and do 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Arch and Simms are only similar because they have families that won Super Bowls at the NFL level.

Arch is gonna shit down the neck or Arnold and whatever other shit QB lebby brings in before he too jumps off the titanic that is known by BrentV
 
Cowboyinexile said:
He's going to Texas and he's going to have Chris Simms level of success. Maybe higher in the draft but we've seen this play out before.
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but will it be better than this so called elite QB?

 
Thiefery said:
lmaoo keep wishcasting the worse.. unlike Simms, Arch is going to an actual QB developer.. Simms bought into Mack and Greg Davis.. and it took VY to finally convince Greg Davis to stand back and let him spread out the offense and do his magic.. then Colt came in and played the same offense.. then he got hurt, Mack had an aneurysm and decided to stop running the offense that gave him the most success and an offense the entire state of Texas began to run.. to go back in time and do 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Arch and Simms are only similar because they have families that won Super Bowls at the NFL level.

Arch is gonna shit down the neck or Arnold and whatever other shit QB lebby brings in before he too jumps off the titanic that is known by BrentV
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Cowboyinexile said:
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Volbound1700 said:
@Deep Creek

The mentality for the sport was just different a long time ago. Stuff we care a lot about today clearly wasn't on the radar or important back then.
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Agree 100%. And I'm an old "get off my lawn" curmudgeon so most would think I hate all the new. .

But, I'm not against all the change. Quite the opposite. I'm all for playing for the championship instead of voting for it...even though it is still an invitational. Teams still have to win two playoff games instead of just looking pretty for a bunch of acolyte voters.

Financial change was good too. The money available...mainly through television revenue...has really been somewhat of a blessing IMHO. Sure, the "tail has wagged the dog" a bit but it sure has provided resources to the other sports as well as improvements for football players.
 
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