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Volbound1700 said:
I NEVER said Tennessee was in the running. In fact, I said we were NOT in the running. Grabbing Nico was a pretty clear sign that Tennessee wasn't in the running for Arch Manning.

LSU is in the running despite what media is stating. Now, they maybe further down the list but they are in the mix.

I think Georgia wins it because of offensive-line play and overall program stability. The only negative about Georgia is that Arch Manning may want to go to a school where he could have a greater impact. If he goes to UGA and gets beat out by another QB, that would be a problem.

Edit: Texas is probably #2 due to the offense they run. However, I would think LSU would be in the mix as well because LSU has a history of running pro-style offenses at times as well. LSU is probably distant third due to instability lately and I am not sure how good their offensive line play is overall.

I don't think Alabama is in the mix because Saban has been using dual threat QBs and, frankly, has plenty of options for QB. Some of the best QBs in the sport have come through Alabama recently so they do not necessarily need a Manning.

I could be totally wrong about my order.

Not sure if the SEC tag really has weight or not. They are going to pick a school were Arch can prosper the most and be put in the best position to be drafted and ready for the NFL.
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Do you follow recruiting at all? You've either stated things that have been written about for months, or things that are totally inaccurate.

I agree you said UTjr wasn't in the running, but you did type: "I think all Tennessee fans are in alignment that Tennessee is NOT an option for Arch, especially with Nico pickup." That's like me saying "all Dawggy's friends are in alignment that Dawggy is NOT an option for Kate Upton." I mean, duh. UTjr has never even been mentioned in his recruiting. Perhaps at the very beginning, years ago, because of Peyton. So of course you are in alignment that UTjr isn't an option - he never seriously considered you. SMH.

- LSU is not in the running, he isn't OVing there.
- UT isn't "probably no. 2" they are most definitely no. 1 or no. 2 ... it's a 2 horse race.
- Bama isn't a dual threat QB school - Tua could run, but he wasn't a true dual threat. He ran for 17 yards his senior season. I could outrun Mac Jones who gained 14 yards in his senior season. Bryce had exactly zero yards rushing last season. He isn't going to Bama because they moved on with Holstein.
- The QB rooms at Bama, UGA and UT are all stacked. Bama and UGA need Manning less than UT, but UGA and UT also have plenty of options for QB. In fact, once you get past our two starters, UGA's QB room is probably slightly stronger than Bama's. UT may well have the best QB of the three teams, and one who might be better than Manning.
- He could get beat out by another QB at any of the 3 finalists. None of those coaches are promising him that he will start, and his parents and management team wouldn't believe it if they were told that.

I do agree that stability and OL play are to the advantage of UGA.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Do you follow recruiting at all? You've either stated things that have been written about for months, or things that are totally inaccurate.

I agree you said UTjr wasn't in the running, but you did type: "I think all Tennessee fans are in alignment that Tennessee is NOT an option for Arch, especially with Nico pickup." That's like me saying "all Dawggy's friends are in alignment that Dawggy is NOT an option for Kate Upton." I mean, duh. UTjr has never even been mentioned in his recruiting. Perhaps at the very beginning, years ago, because of Peyton. So of course you are in alignment that UTjr isn't an option - he never seriously considered you. SMH.

- LSU is not in the running, he isn't OVing there.
- UT isn't "probably no. 2" they are most definitely no. 1 or no. 2 ... it's a 2 horse race.
- Bama isn't a dual threat QB school - Tua could run, but he wasn't a true dual threat. He ran for 17 yards his senior season. I could outrun Mac Jones who gained 14 yards in his senior season. Bryce had exactly zero yards rushing last season. He isn't going to Bama because they moved on with Holstein.
- The QB rooms at Bama, UGA and UT are all stacked. Bama and UGA need Manning less than UT, but UGA and UT also have plenty of options for QB. In fact, once you get past our two starters, UGA's QB room is probably slightly stronger than Bama's. UT may well have the best QB of the three teams, and one who might be better than Manning.
- He could get beat out by another QB at any of the 3 finalists. None of those coaches are promising him that he will start, and his parents and management team wouldn't believe it if they were told that.

I do agree that stability and OL play are to the advantage of UGA.
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Correct. That fact and also the fact that Phillip Fulmer came out recently talking a lot about the process are all something that can be construed as Tennessee being in the recruitment but we are NOT. I don't think we ever were involved in the process. I mean, I guess there might be some brief consideration due to history but we definitely weren't a serious candidate. Even if he isn't a candidate at Tennessee, his recruitment process is being discussed a lot among the fanbase (probably with Ole Miss as well).

Regarding, LSU are you sure about that?

That was MY OPINION of how the schools fell out.

I agree about Mac Jones but Saban has openly stated his philosophy of trying to go with dual-threat QBs on several occasions. Perhaps I am underestimating Alabama but there just hasn't been a lot of rumblings, other than his visit, that Alabama is his prime target.

Again, I am trying to give you what rumors are out there, there is no reason to get into an argument over this. I also know you think you sound cool with all of the UTjr bullshit insults that you constantly try to spout but it really just looks like lame trolling.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Correct. That fact and also the fact that Phillip Fulmer came out recently talking a lot about the process are all something that can be construed as Tennessee being in the recruitment but we are NOT. I don't think we ever were involved in the process. I mean, I guess there might be some brief consideration due to history but we definitely weren't a serious candidate. Even if he isn't a candidate at Tennessee, his recruitment process is being discussed a lot among the fanbase (probably with Ole Miss as well).

Regarding, LSU are you sure about that?

That was MY OPINION of how the schools fell out.

I agree about Mac Jones but Saban has openly stated his philosophy of trying to go with dual-threat QBs on several occasions. Perhaps I am underestimating Alabama but there just hasn't been a lot of rumblings, other than his visit, that Alabama is his prime target.

Again, I am trying to give you what rumors are out there, there is no reason to get into an argument over this. I also know you think you sound cool with all of the UTjr bullshit insults that you constantly try to spout but it really just looks like lame trolling.
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First, I've been typing UTjr for years. It isn't going to stop. Especially with UT coming into the SEC I have to have a way to distinguish the two. If it makes you feel better, I do the same for USCjr so you are in some kind of company there.

I am sure about LSU. While the Mannings have kept what they are going to do close to their chests, the way they have gone about his recruitment and who is in or out has been crystal clear. LSU has never really been in it. Probably because they have some serious allegations looming over them.

A school adopting dual-threat QBs get people who can run, and then they run them. Designed run plays, not scrambling. THink Malik Willis, Sam Howell, Matt Coral, etc. Bama runs an RPO offense (everyone does for the most part, even teams that run a Pro Style), but that's handing to the RB or passing, not the QB running. When the QB either hands off to the RB or pulls it and runs, that's called RO or read option. In the RPO offense, the QB is reading the linebacker to see if he commits to the run, leaving space for the slot receiver (typically). In the RO offense, the QB is reading the rush end to see whether he buys the fake to the RB. Bama is an RPO team, or Pro team. They aren't having the QBs running as evidenced by the fact in the last 3 years their QBs have gained 31 total yards in 3 years.

I follow recruiting way too closely. I am a loser. Don't be a loser like me. That said, opinions really don't matter in recruiting. Either you have info from a source of some kind or you don't. I mean I think I bullet-pointed 5 things in your post where the facts override your opinion. Facts, when you can get them, are more important if you want to intelligently talk recruiting.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
First, I've been typing UTjr for years. It isn't going to stop. Especially with UT coming into the SEC I have to have a way to distinguish the two. If it makes you feel better, I do the same for USCjr so you are in some kind of company there.

I am sure about LSU. While the Mannings have kept what they are going to do close to their chests, the way they have gone about his recruitment and who is in or out has been crystal clear. LSU has never really been in it. Probably because they have some serious allegations looming over them.

A school adopting dual-threat QBs get people who can run, and then they run them. Designed run plays, not scrambling. THink Malik Willis, Sam Howell, Matt Coral, etc. Bama runs an RPO offense (everyone does for the most part, even teams that run a Pro Style), but that's handing to the RB or passing, not the QB running. When the QB either hands off to the RB or pulls it and runs, that's called RO or read option. In the RPO offense, the QB is reading the linebacker to see if he commits to the run, leaving space for the slot receiver (typically). In the RO offense, the QB is reading the rush end to see whether he buys the fake to the RB. Bama is an RPO team, or Pro team. They aren't having the QBs running as evidenced by the fact in the last 3 years their QBs have gained 31 total yards in 3 years.

I follow recruiting way too closely. I am a loser. Don't be a loser like me. That said, opinions really don't matter in recruiting. Either you have info from a source of some kind or you don't. I mean I think I bullet-pointed 5 things in your post where the facts override your opinion. Facts, when you can get them, are more important if you want to intelligently talk recruiting.
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True but nothing you have is really facts as well. It is all speculation. Hell, most of the discussions on this board are really opinions/speculations and not grounded in facts. College Football has always been speculation because you are dealing with young adults (sometimes called kids but that is not fair) who have their play impacted week by week by how their relationship with their girlfriend is going or matters we have no visibility to. The only person who truly knows what Arch wants and is interested in is Arch Manning himself and perhaps his family.

I may agree with you that I have Alabama probably further down than they should be but there just isn't a lot of chatter about it. Far more chatter with Georgia and Texas.

The only real disagreement that I have with you is LSU. I don't like LSU odds and we agree on that but I do think they are a still a long shot. You reference no official visit but I think that might be related to the fact that he lives in the area and it is a simple drive to the campus. I would be surprised if Arch went to LSU but not that surprised.

Yeah, I don't do USC jr for South Carolina either. I just write South Carolina for Gamecocks. Part of the reason why is the University of South Carolina is older than USC similar to Tennessee being older than Texas. There are a lot of variable to compare between the schools so I don't want to post anyone as Junior.
 
Volbound1700 said:
True but nothing you have is really facts as well. It is all speculation. Hell, most of the discussions on this board are really opinions/speculations and not grounded in facts. College Football has always been speculation because you are dealing with young adults (sometimes called kids but that is not fair) who have their play impacted week by week by how their relationship with their girlfriend is going or matters we have no visibility to. The only person who truly knows what Arch wants and is interested in is Arch Manning himself and perhaps his family.

I may agree with you that I have Alabama probably further down than they should be but there just isn't a lot of chatter about it. Far more chatter with Georgia and Texas.

The only real disagreement that I have with you is LSU. I don't like LSU odds and we agree on that but I do think they are a still a long shot. You reference no official visit but I think that might be related to the fact that he lives in the area and it is a simple drive to the campus. I would be surprised if Arch went to LSU but not that surprised.

Yeah, I don't do USC jr for South Carolina either. I just write South Carolina for Gamecocks. Part of the reason why is the University of South Carolina is older than USC similar to Tennessee being older than Texas. There are a lot of variable to compare between the schools so I don't want to post anyone as Junior.
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Facts:
- Manning is taking 3 OVs ... UT, UGA and Bama.
- Manning took UVs to the same 3 teams, but not LSU.
- Manning was prominently covered at games last year at UGA, Bama, and UT ... not LSU.
- Alabama has taken a highly ranked QB in this class already.

I agree that no one really knows ... I've said so many times in this thread. But I just pulled those 4 important facts in a couple minutes. Also, when I give my opinion it's based on hundreds of articles and multiple sports boards insiders that I follow. Not just some randos on a sports board.

As for USCjr, they literally lost a lawsuit to USC so they can't even use USC. That makes it even better. They are clearly junior if they can't win a lawsuit about it.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
LSU and UTjr aren't even in consideration. He took 3 OVs to UT, Bama and UGA and that is all he is taking per everything that has been written. He will either decide in the next few weeks or the Fall if he really likes UT and wants to see if they are improved. I am thinking he decides right around the 4th of July or soon thereafter.

The main thing that UT has going for them is Sark having a good QB record. Let's call Athens v. Austin a push. Most everything else leans UGA. But, I believe that the deciding factor is that the Mannings, being SEC royalty, won't want Arch playing anywhere but the SEC. He would play 2 years in the B12 and I just can't see the family wanting that, nor Arch wanting that when he has grown up around the SEC all his life. That's the positive spin from a UGA homer. I am sure @Thiefery will explain why it will be UT.
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Lmao. Again? No one gives a shit about conference affiliations but you post 2000 sec sycophant fanboys. It literally means NOTHING to everyone else.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I am leaning more and more towards Arch going to Georgia. With mobile QBs being more and more of a priority/need today, the Manning style of play isn't as strong as it used to be back when Eli and Peyton played. However, I think Arch is still likely to be the real deal.

One item they will consider is offensive line play. Out of the teams in the running, I think Georgia probably has the best offensive line play with the ability to protect Arch the best from pass rushes. This is my logic as to why Georgia could be in the lead.

I do think LSU and Texas are in the running however. Arch Manning may want to go to a program that could benefit the most from his play versus one that is already on top and has multiple options at QB.

This is a common topic on VolNation right now. I think all Tennessee fans are in alignment that Tennessee is NOT an option for Arch, especially with Nico pickup. Phillip Fulmer has been consulted by Mannings for the process but based on comments, this is NOT an indication that Tennessee is in the running but rather Peyton talking to family friend.
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why would Texas be included on your list of teams that could benefit the most from his play… we’re going to have a MUCH MORE HIGHLY regarded QB starting next year and he will have experience over manning come the following year. ???
 
ELTEXAN said:
Lmao. Again? No one gives a shit about conference affiliations but you post 2000 sec sycophant fanboys. It literally means NOTHING to everyone else.
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I get that you don't care about conferences. But if you don't think the SEC isn't important to the Mannings, you have allowed your passion to dull your senses. Seriously, while I am a conference guy, I get why you aren't. Don't agree but respect it. But I think you are way wrong on the Mannings. They are SEC royalty and it will make a difference.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I get that you don't care about conferences. But if you don't think the SEC isn't important to the Mannings, you have allowed your passion to dull your senses. Seriously, while I am a conference guy, I get why you aren't. Don't agree but respect it. But I think you are way wrong on the Mannings. They are SEC royalty and it will make a difference.
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You literally wrote an entire paragraph just reiterating your bald claim. You provide NO PROOF that SEC LOYALTY Matters to the mannings. None. You just use “SEC royalty” as a claim… and that claim, that term, is colored by your outlook about the subject (conference loyalty matters) … which is what we are disagreeing on in the first place.
You are just claiming the question as the answer. Tell me you’re not that dumb
 
ELTEXAN said:
why would Texas be included on your list of teams that could benefit the most from his play… we’re going to have a MUCH MORE HIGHLY regarded QB starting next year and he will have experience over manning come the following year. ???
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Because Bama and UGA have way better talent, and are considered two of the top teams right now. Texas is not that. So, landing the no. 1 QB and the other players that will be attracted to them means way more to you than UGA and Bama when it comes to long term impact. I agree that in the short term, Ewers is more important, and that there he may actually be the better QB at the end of the day. There is nuance involved, and I don't get that you do nuance very well.
 
ELTEXAN said:
You literally wrote an entire paragraph just reiterating your bald claim. You provide NO PROOF that SEC LOYALTY Matters to the mannings. None. You just use “SEC royalty” as a claim… and that claim, that term, is colored by your outlook about the subject (conference loyalty matters) … which is what we are disagreeing on in the first place.
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There are certain things one does not have to offer proof of ... the fact that the Mannings are SEC royalty is one. Whether that makes a difference with Arch's decision is my opinion, shared by many, but I have no facts to support it other than it just makes a lot of sense.

Again, you seem so red in the face pissed off ... all those CAPs ... that you just can't think through it. Back to the kiddies table until you stop throwing tantrums ... then you can join the adults and have civil discussions. Shoo ...
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Because Bama and UGA have way better talent, and are considered two of the top teams right now. Texas is not that. So, landing the no. 1 QB and the other players that will be attracted to them means way more to you than UGA and Bama when it comes to long term impact. I agree that in the short term, Ewers is more important, and that there he may actually be the better QB at the end of the day. There is nuance involved, and I don't get that you do nuance very well.
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Arch won’t be playing at TX. He will be behind a starting sophomore QB. You seem not to do “simplicity” and “logic” very well.
So there fire Texas shouldn’t be on his list of teams that will benefit from his play… because he won’t be contributing.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
There are certain things one does not have to offer proof of ... the fact that the Mannings are SEC royalty is one. Whether that makes a difference with Arch's decision is my opinion, shared by many, but I have no facts to support it other than it just makes a lot of sense.

Again, you seem so red in the face pissed off ... all those CAPs ... that you just can't think through it. Back to the kiddies table until you stop throwing tantrums ... then you can join the adults and have civil discussions. Shoo ...
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The term SEC ROYALTY only makes sense in the context that conference loyalty matters. Which is the very thing we are disagreeing on.
So, yes, you using that term just BEGS THE QUESTION.
You’re just making claims on the very question instead of offering any proof of a particular answer for it.
Get. Smarter.
 
ELTEXAN said:
The term SEC ROYALTY only makes sense in the context that conference loyalty matters. Which is the very thing we are disagreeing on.
So, yes, you using that term just BEGS THE QUESTION.
You’re just making claims on the very question instead of offering any proof of it.
Get. Smarter.
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Pipe down, junior ... adults over here talking football. Go outside and play.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Pipe down, junior ... adults over here talking football. Go outside and play.
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Another reply which offers no proof of your position or even speaks to the issue. Not surprised, dolt.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I am leaning more and more towards Arch going to Georgia. With mobile QBs being more and more of a priority/need today, the Manning style of play isn't as strong as it used to be back when Eli and Peyton played. However, I think Arch is still likely to be the real deal.

One item they will consider is offensive line play. Out of the teams in the running, I think Georgia probably has the best offensive line play with the ability to protect Arch the best from pass rushes. This is my logic as to why Georgia could be in the lead.

I do think LSU and Texas are in the running however. Arch Manning may want to go to a program that could benefit the most from his play versus one that is already on top and has multiple options at QB.

This is a common topic on VolNation right now. I think all Tennessee fans are in alignment that Tennessee is NOT an option for Arch, especially with Nico pickup. Phillip Fulmer has been consulted by Mannings for the process but based on comments, this is NOT an indication that Tennessee is in the running but rather Peyton talking to family friend.
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this is some solid info.. you work for rivals?
 
I’m of the opinion that a recruit doesn’t deserve their own thread, especially not one with 15 pages of novels
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I’m of the opinion that a recruit doesn’t deserve their own thread, especially not one with 15 pages of novels
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