Better Job: Arizona State or Nebraska?

Better Coaching Gig?

  • Nebraska

    Votes: 29 63.0%

  • Arizona State

    Votes: 17 37.0%
  • Total voters
    46
Kachina said:
You think?

AZ is a good state for recruiting, and Cali isn't car away at all, with Southern Cal providing a lot of great talent for ASU.

Nebraska tries to get Texas recruits, but there are a million local schools doing the same.

I think AZ money wise is very close. Herm was around $3m/yr, and I think Frost was $5m/yr.

Lastly, a visit to Lincoln won't lure a recruit like a visit to Phoenix/Tempe
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B1G money wins.

If you aren’t in the SEC or B1G going forward it will be tough to compete.
 
Anybody talking cold and winters is a simpleton. It gets cold and snowy in Columbus. Do you take the ASU job over tOSU because it gets cold in Columbus?

If you stick to cornfields, you'll less like idiots.
 
Recruiting rankings 2022 - 2017
ASU - 56, 45, 24, 29, 36, 32
NE - 32, 25, 20, 18, 23, 23

NE is a blue blood.
ASU has better weather.
ASU closer to Cali and Texas.
ASU way hotter chicks.

20-21 Revenue (millions)
Team / Overall / Football
NE / $92 / $53
ASU / $117 / $22

Have to admit it surprised me that ASU has more revenue. That won't last, but that amazed me.

NE will be able to entice a coach to leave a decent situation to take a chance - thinking of the Iowa State coach. Don't think ASU can do that. They will have to hit on a G5 type of coach who they hope will be really good.
 
Red_Alert said:
Anybody talking cold and winters is a simpleton. It gets cold and snowy in Columbus. Do you take the ASU job over tOSU because it gets cold in Columbus?

If you stick to cornfields, you'll less like idiots.
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Here's why it matters ... you have to have OL and DL to win. Most of those really good ones come from the south. They aren't leaving the south to go to the cold weather. Now, that's the deep south, not ASU. Kids from Alabama, Georgia, Florida are not going to spurn southern schools to go to ASU even with the warmer weather.
 
trojanfan12 said:
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It's not, but it isn't quite as bad as people think. That said, the demographic shift towards more Latinos and Asians is not conducive to an upward trend in CFB talent.

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Georgia has reached the level of Florida and California
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If the goal is money, Nebraska. If the goal is winning, Arizona State
 
fishinabarrel said:
Nebraska. One maybe two good seasons would turn recruiting around for them. Not so much for ASU. Huge fanbase and financial opportunity compared to ASU as well.
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Recruiting isn't going to change much for Nebraska. Their own fans will tell you recruiting hasn't changed much at all for them, even with the change from the Big 12 to the B1G.

Since the turn of the century -- if you took the top 25 highest ranked recruits signed by Nebraska, it'd look like the normal recruiting class OSU signs every year. To put it in perspective -- just the 2022 recruiting class signed by Ohio State, which wasn't even one of OSU's better classes -- 13 recruits in OSU's 2022 class alone would be ranked in the top 25 highest ranked recruits since 2000 if they had signed with Nebraska. THAT is how enormous the gap is in recruiting.

Definitely not saying ASU is the better job, but I don't think either program is going to be doing much at the national level unless they are able to buy quite a few recruiting classes.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Here's why it matters ... you have to have OL and DL to win. Most of those really good ones come from the south. They aren't leaving the south to go to the cold weather. Now, that's the deep south, not ASU. Kids from Alabama, Georgia, Florida are not going to spurn southern schools to go to ASU even with the warmer weather.
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Defensive line is definitely south heavy but not so much on the offensive line. There are plenty of non-south states that produce good offensive linemen
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Recruiting isn't going to change much for Nebraska. Their own fans will tell you recruiting hasn't changed much at all for them, even with the change from the Big 12 to the B1G.

Since the turn of the century -- if you took the top 25 highest ranked recruits signed by Nebraska, it'd look like the normal recruiting class OSU signs every year. To put it in perspective -- just the 2022 recruiting class signed by Ohio State, which wasn't even one of OSU's better classes -- 13 recruits in OSU's 2022 class alone would be ranked in the top 25 highest ranked recruits since 2000 if they had signed with Nebraska. THAT is how enormous the gap is in recruiting.

Definitely not saying ASU is the better job, but I don't think either program is going to be doing much at the national level unless they are able to buy quite a few recruiting classes.
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Nebraska can recruit on a top ten level if they show success and it won't take a ton of it IMO. Look at your own team and Michigan State. Michigan was getting plenty of non elite recruiting classes bc they didn't have a good product on the field. Michigan State was putting out a great product pretty consistently with Dantonio yet couldn't break into that elite recruiting. Then Michigan has a couple good seasons under Harbaugh and tada, top ten classes abound. That's what a blue blood status can do.

Nebraska isn't going to recruit like Bama, and go on a tear of number one classes but they certainly can get to top ten classes consistently.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Nebraska can recruit on a top ten level if they show success and it won't take a ton of it IMO. Look at your own team and Michigan State. Michigan was getting plenty of non elite recruiting classes bc they didn't have a good product on the field. Michigan State was putting out a great product pretty consistently with Dantonio yet couldn't break into that elite recruiting. Then Michigan has a couple good seasons under Harbaugh and tada, top ten classes abound. That's what a blue blood status can do.

Nebraska isn't going to recruit like Bama, and go on a tear of number one classes but they certainly can get to top ten classes consistently.
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Nebraska fans will tell that isn't happening. They have had one top 10 recruiting class in 25 years. The only time Michigan wasn't getting top 10-15 recruiting classes is when Rich Rod was coach and alot of that was him wanting those goofy ass small WR's and lighter OL.

Every coach at UM signed multiple top 10 recruiting classes, but Rich Rod. Hell, Brady Hoke signed the #4 and #6 recruiting classes and he was only at UM 4 years.

Nebraska's issue and the biggest issue they will continue to have is -- they have to rely on exclusively signing kids nationally, where they are at an ENORMOUS disadvantage, they don't have elite in state kids who will be out recruiting other elite in state kids (like the talent rich states have), they don't have the academics (like Michigan, ND does) and they don't even have the climate that attracts kids.

I'm not saying Nebraska can't recruit a top 10 class, they obviously could, but consistently isn't happening.
 
Wishbone said:
After spending the whole weekend in Nebraska I feel so bad for that fan base man. They are so loyal and it was hard to be at the stadium and see that decline in person. I hope they can get back.
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I agree with this whole heartedly. Always feel bad for a fan base that stays like this when their team is struggling and there might not be any fan base that does that more than Nebraska.

I was at the 2016 and 2018 games when they came to Columbus and was thoroughly impressed both times by their fans. Hung out with quite a few of them at tailgates before and after. Vast differences in those two game outcomes (one was 31-36 and one was 62-3) but you barely would have noticed at the tailgates after. I can't see myself sticking around to go to an opposing teams tailgate after losing 62-3 lol
 
Since Arizona State's undefeated season in 1975, they have exactly 6, 10+ win seasons.

Yep
6 seasons out of 46 years.

That is incredibly huge terrible suckage.

Unless they commit big money and have huge energy, then they will just do what they have done before......SUCK
 
fishinabarrel said:
ASU has no where close to the resources Nebraska has financially. If a football recruit is worried more about girls on a visit than training facilities then he probably isn't a recruit you want. Nebraska has top ten in the country.

Despite their very real recent struggles Nebraska is still a blue blood and requires very little to gain a lot of momentum.
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Hell no ASU doesn’t and won’t have near the financial resources that Nebraska has….and will have. Neither will any teams in “the other three” conferences. Once movement finishes and media contracts ate done, disparity will only grow more than it already is. Nuttin” any team can do about that either. Just the way it is.

Only thing ASU has better is an easier path to the playoffs and better weather.
 
Deep Creek said:
Hell no ASU doesn’t and won’t have near the financial resources that Nebraska has….and will have. Neither will any teams in “the other three” conferences. Once movement finishes and media contracts ate done, disparity will only grow more than it already is. Nuttin” any team can do about that either. Just the way it is.

Only thing ASU has better is an easier path to the playoffs and better weather.
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They do have a pretty cool stadium too
 
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