CFP Rankings (11/30)

[Cowboyinexile]

I have quoted a lot of responses here. I am not just pointing out Baylor and Okie State's schedules. I was simply responding to the first page about one conference being tougher or comparable to another conference. To be honest, I want to see Oklahoma State in the playoff. To see what these guys have. Be a different BIG XII team in the mix. I want it to be Georgia, Michigan, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati. Because it is a total different picture than what we are used to. It would also have the first G5 team in.

This would be perfect and I'm not saying it as a Homer. No Ohio State, Bama, Clemson, and Oklahoma.

Georgia has been there before but Bama is their kryptonite and you gotta have one quasi regular in there. Michigan and Oklahoma State exorcized demona to get in and Cincy breaks the wheel. Normally I want chaos this weekend but for something different chalk is the best way to go. Upsets mean Bama and Notre Dame work their way in and then it's more of the same with one new guy.

 

[Rolltide94]

This argument is pointless to have with SEC fluffers. They'll swear to the end with ridiculous statements about how the extra OOC game doesn't make any difference.

The problem isn't that we play an extra one, the problem is you don't. There aren't enough data points as it is between conferences. We don't need less of them, we need more of them. More conference games won't tell you how good your team is relative to other conferences, it only tells you how good your teams are within your conference.

I could tell you way more about the relative strength of conferences by looking at what they did OOC than I could by playing yet another conference game.

If you think it's an unfair advantage you should be advocating to play 8 rather than looking like a dipshit arguing for another game against Rutgers or Illinois.

FYI to illustrate the point....

B1G vs P5 8-6, vs G5 18-3
SEC vs P5 7-7, vs G5 26-1
ACC vs P5 5-15, vs G5 15-3
B12 vs P5 5-4, vs G5 10-2
Pac-12 vs P5 3-13, vs G5 6-5

If you want to know why the SEC and B1G have more ranked teams, see above.

The 20 P5 out of conference games the ACC played this year should be the minimum, not the maximum. If you want to argue for everyone dropping a G5 game to play another P5 OOC game, I'm your Huckleberry, advocating for more conference games is just dumb.

 

[jon1tanman]

The problem isn't that we play an extra one, the problem is you don't. There aren't enough data points as it is between conferences. We don't need less of them, we need more of them. More conference games won't tell you how good your team is relative to other conferences, it only tells you how good your teams are within your conference.

I could tell you way more about the relative strength of conferences by looking at what they did OOC than I could by playing yet another conference game.

If you think it's an unfair advantage you should be advocating to play 8 rather than looking like a dipshit arguing for another game against Rutgers or Illinois.

FYI to illustrate the point....

B1G vs P5 8-6, vs G5 18-3
SEC vs P5 7-7, vs G5 26-1
ACC vs P5 5-15, vs G5 15-3
B12 vs P5 5-4, vs G5 10-2
Pac-12 vs P5 3-13, vs G5 6-5

If you want to know why the SEC and B1G have more ranked teams, see above.

The 20 P5 out of conference games the ACC played this year should be the minimum, not the maximum. If you want to argue for everyone dropping a G5 game to play another P5 OOC game, I'm your Huckleberry, advocating for more conference games is just dumb.

SEC vs P5 7-7, vs G5 26-1. If the SEC didn't schedule cupcakes with that extra game then your argument would be true, however loading up with garbage teams=rest for rivalries and more bowl games for the conference.

 

[Rolltide94]

SEC vs P5 7-7, vs G5 26-1. If the SEC didn't schedule cupcakes with that extra game then your argument would be true, however loading up with garbage teams=rest for rivalries and more bowl games for the conference.

The SEC schedules G5 teams for the extra game...you have 12 teams and played 9 FCS going 7-2, the SEC has 14 teams and played 14 FCS teams going 13-1.

The problem is that you went 6-5 against the 11 G5 teams you played and 6-6 with the extra Pac-12 team you played.

Playing an extra conference game would be worse for the SEC than the Pac because we didn't go .500 against G5. The Pac-12 could drop a conference game and have the same record exchanging it for a G5. It wouldn't do anything to make the Pac-12 better or the SEC worse...a 6-5 SEC team will still beat the pants off a 6-5 Pac-12 team...you'd just be putting lipstick on your pig if the Pac-12 dropped to 8 games. Every week in the Pac-12 is cupcake week, y'all don't need the rest because you suck. Whichever SEC team wins the NC this year will have more OOC ranked wins against top 10 teams than the Pac-12 has had in the last 5 years. The new B12 without Texas and Oklahoma will still be a better league.