Dan Mullen Has To Be Fired Right?

OregonDucks said:
I'm sorry what job do you guys think he takes? Florida? Miami hurricanes rival? The dude still has his Mom send him food home made from Miami, he isn't going to UF that would be blasphemy.

Miami is the one place that worries me and I can't say I wouldn't blame the guy if he ended up in Miami some day because it is home for him. But there are a couple reasons I dont think we Duck fans have to worry about that right now. One is that Cristobal has a goal at Oregon and it is to bring Oregon a national championship. I think he stays here until he accomplishes that goal. Second, Miami can't afford Cristobal's buyout nor his assistants buyouts because Cristobal would ask that his assistants get taken care of too.
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You're a douche, but I agree with pretty much everything here.
 
OregonDucks said:
One is that Cristobal has a goal at Oregon and it is to bring Oregon a national championship. I think he stays here until he accomplishes that goal.
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Lifetime contract apparently
 
craigk217 said:
That's a decent chunk of change for the Gators to shell out to rid themselves of him.

I know Cristobol has strong ties to Miami (Canes), but something tells me UO would match anything UF would throw up. Jus sayin.
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No way. Uncy Phil has his limits.
 
TheDayMan said:
No way. Uncy Phil has his limits.
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Oregon's near results are clear, the Ducks are very close to winning a national championship. Phil will make sure the pieces are in place, aka Cristobal, long enough to achieve that goal.
 
OregonDucks said:
Oregon's near results are clear, the Ducks are very close to winning a national championship. Phil will make sure the pieces are in place, aka Cristobal, long enough to achieve that goal.
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I am going to be controversial with this post but here we go.

My impression for Oregon is sometimes they are just the place mat in between cycles of a more developed team like USC when they are down. Oregon tends to be good when there isn't another national title contender on the West Coast but as soon as one comes around, Oregon disappears. The one positive with Oregon is the large amount of $$$ and rabid fanbase that they have, the latter being unusual for most (not all) Pac12 teams.

That being said, Oregon has great teams but I am not sure their teams matchup against truly elite teams such as Alabama, Clemson (in past years), Georgia, and Ohio State. I think Oregon is good enough to compete with nearly everyone else. Oregon has really struggled in playing teams that have elite defensive talent that can make their spread system. This is true even in the Pac12 when Stanford seemed to have Oregon's number often back when Stanford had a more elite defense.

I do think the Pac12 has improved defensively over the last decade so Oregon and their system faces more challenge today than in the past. However, I am just not sure that Oregon has enough talent to truly compete with a program like Alabama. However, you guys were very close in 2012 so who knows. I haven't seen anything yet to change my opinion listed above but I could be wrong. This is why they play the game.

It is interesting that USC just continues to wallow in mediocrity. They have all of the resources to compete (like Texas) but just cannot find the right coaching staff and scheme.
 
Since 1994, Oregon is the most consistent and most successful PAC-10/12 program. USC had it's dominance with Carroll, but in the last 27 years, that is just a flash in the pan of success. Meanwhile, Oregon has had a steady consistent run as top of the conference and national relevance.
 
OregonDucks said:
Since 1994, Oregon is the most consistent and most successful PAC-10/12 program. USC had it's dominance with Carroll, but in the last 27 years, that is just a flash in the pan of success. Meanwhile, Oregon has had a steady consistent run as top of the conference and national relevance.
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Here is a list of Pac12 Championships won by Oregon:

1994
2000
2001
2009
2010
2011
2014
2019
2020

Running off this premise, Oregon and USC are both tied at 9 titles. However, USC's run with Carroll is far more memorable than any of Oregon's run (the Chip Kelly run was memorable though and I will explain later).

USC went on the road and won a lot of big games beating Ohio State 2x, Auburn 2x, Arkansas 2x, Michigan, Notre Dame multiple times, Nebraska 2x, etc.

USC went out and played everyone. They also had a pretty strong dominance of the Pac12 itself during that period.

Oregon hasn't gone on the road as much to win big games. In fact, most of their big road games have ended up with Ls such as LSU in 2011 or Auburn in 2019. The exception is the win at Ohio State this year.

Another key factor is that Oregon hasn't won a title yet although they were very close in the 2011-2012 season and in 2014. USC had the best talent, put it on display in major road games to East Coast opponents, and won at a very high level. Oregon tends to win a lot of games but often struggles when they meet that higher crop of teams on the East Coast. There also isn't a major opponent in the Pac12 to create big-time matchups and eyeballs for Oregon. UCLA was the closest opportunity this year in the Pac12 and they have kind of fallen a part since their matchup with Oregon.

USC also tended to put more big-name players in the NFL.

All of these points are why USC tends to get a lot more respect than Oregon on the National Scene despite the fact Oregon has been a better program this decade.
 
TigerBait1971 said:
I think with UK it comes down to depth. The season can be brutal and though they have some talented guys, they are not stacked 3 deep.
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Stoops has been phenomenal at UK and done more with less than anyone in the country. He took a team without a QB, turned a WR into a QB, changed to 98% running team on the fly while making it to a bowl game and won it.

The odds on being able to that at KY are astronomically low and Stoops did it.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Here is a list of Pac12 Championships won by Oregon:

1994
2000
2001
2009
2010
2011
2014
2019
2020

Running off this premise, Oregon and USC are both tied at 9 titles. However, USC's run with Carroll is far more memorable than any of Oregon's run (the Chip Kelly run was memorable though and I will explain later).

USC went on the road and won a lot of big games beating Ohio State 2x, Auburn 2x, Arkansas 2x, Michigan, Notre Dame multiple times, Nebraska 2x, etc.

USC went out and played everyone. They also had a pretty strong dominance of the Pac12 itself during that period.

Oregon hasn't gone on the road as much to win big games. In fact, most of their big road games have ended up with Ls such as LSU in 2011 or Auburn in 2019. The exception is the win at Ohio State this year.

Another key factor is that Oregon hasn't won a title yet although they were very close in the 2011-2012 season and in 2014. USC had the best talent, put it on display in major road games to East Coast opponents, and won at a very high level. Oregon tends to win a lot of games but often struggles when they meet that higher crop of teams on the East Coast. There also isn't a major opponent in the Pac12 to create big-time matchups and eyeballs for Oregon. UCLA was the closest opportunity this year in the Pac12 and they have kind of fallen a part since their matchup with Oregon.

USC also tended to put more big-name players in the NFL.

All of these points are why USC tends to get a lot more respect than Oregon on the National Scene despite the fact Oregon has been a better program this decade.
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Auburn has beaten the eventual PAC champion twice in the last 4 years. Winning the PAC isn’t some great feat and Oregon didn’t really win it in 2020 but got into the game due to COVID protocols.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Auburn has beaten the eventual PAC champion twice in the last 4 years. Winning the PAC isn’t some great feat and Oregon didn’t really win it in 2020 but got into the game due to COVID protocols.
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I made a joke in another thread about Tennessee actually being invited to a bowl game last year despite a 3-7 record (Tennessee declined it). 2020 was a different year.
 
The meltdown started last year when they lost at home to a bad LSU team.

They somehow managed to take Bama to the brink but other than that its been pretty much all bad against anyone with a pulse since then.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
The meltdown started last year when they lost at home to a bad LSU team.

They somehow managed to take Bama to the brink but other than that its been pretty much all bad against anyone with a pulse since then.
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2-8 in their last 10 against P5 teams. Vandy and Tennessee this year are the two wins, and if the game were played now, I bet Tennessee would win the rematch
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
2-8 in their last 10 against P5 teams. Vandy and Tennessee this year are the two wins, and if the game were played now, I bet Tennessee would win the rematch
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You overestimate us too much. Tennessee literally cannot beat Florida no matter how bad Florida is and how good Tennessee is. There is some kind of voodoo curse or something going on. It has been this way my entire life. No series is more frustrating for me.

Tennessee could literally have a team good enough to beat Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc. and then play the Florida team that exists right now and still lose.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
2-8 in their last 10 against P5 teams. Vandy and Tennessee this year are the two wins, and if the game were played now, I bet Tennessee would win the rematch
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I'd say the remainder of their schedule is easy and he might be able to salvage 8-4, but considering they got destroyed by a pretty lousy South Carolina team who was on like their 4th QB this season they are probably more likely to finish 1-2 (because Samford) than 3-0
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'd say the remainder of their schedule is easy and he might be able to salvage 8-4, but considering they got destroyed by a pretty lousy South Carolina team who was on like their 4th QB this season they are probably more likely to finish 1-2 (because Samford) than 3-0
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Missouri and FSU aren’t gimmies for them anymore
 
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