


I guess it depends on what section of town you are in. The areas of Chicago and Cleveland I've been in were reasonably clean and nice.
Went to Rome two summers ago and there is trash, graffiti, and dog poop everywhere outside the tourist areas.
And you guys followed the "When in Rome" philosophy?Yeah, been to Rome a couple of times. Even 25+ years ago it was a shithole outside of the tourist areas.