Does Nebraska matter in the B1G?

[fordman84]

Iron sharpens iron. If your goal is to get to the NFL, you want to play for coaches that have a history of getting players to the NFL. Going up against other NFL talent is better than going up a slew of 3*. Also, the top guys have the confidence to believe they can beat out the best of the best. It's in their DNA.

But if you are going to split time or not even play and have to transfer just to see the field, why not just go somewhere else that you can start right away.

 

[Wamu]

?

They've been completely irrelevant since joining the Big Ten and haven't appeared in the conference championship game since 2012 when they got embarrassed by Wisconsin.

You'd think being in the weaker of the two B1G divisions, the mighty historic traditional Nebraska Cornhuskers would be almost guaranteed to be in the B1G championship game each year, but instead they've fallen below Wisconsin, Iowa, and even Purdue. Of course I think we all thought Nebraska would find themselves in the Big12 conference championship year after year when they were paired in the same division as Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri.

SAVE SCOTT FROST!

Wait a minute. Doesn't your team play in a conference with Washington St., Oregon St, Colorado, UCLA and Cal? You can't knock a teams conference affiliation when your own team has it's own share of conference doormats.

 

[Wishbone]

I never understood the St Louis area.. it's a fertile recruiting ground, but the players often choose schools outside Mizzu. Think the last bluechip player than committed to them was DGB, the 5 star WR..who transferred, then went to the NFL

Yeah OU just got a 5* commit from St Louis.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

But if you are going to split time or not even play and have to transfer just to see the field, why not just go somewhere else that you can start right away.

RBs should want to split time. Only so much wear on the tires. It's how we manage our RB room that gets great RBs coming to UGA.

Those that don't earn PT do transfer. We've lost a number of 5* and highly regarded 4* for that reason. Cox is at UF, Reese at OM, etc. But, they want to go to teams where they compete with the best. I assume that winning NCs is a deal too, which limits you to about 5 or 6 programs these day (that will presumably cycle).

Whatever it is, it's a thing. You don't see someone with a UGA, Bama, and LSU hat on the table suddenly declare, I am going to NC State so I can get more playing time.

 

[Thiefery]

But if you are going to split time or not even play and have to transfer just to see the field, why not just go somewhere else that you can start right away.

Not taking a shot at your school, I know I know, but I always wondered why WRs went there. I was a huge HUGE Dylan Wright fan, thought he was for sure going to be a Horn, but he committed to y'all. Never understood why WRs go there..TE's?? That I understood but not WR's. Still hoping one day he and Preston decide to hit the portal and for UT to bring them in.

 

[duckboy33]

Wait a minute. Doesn't your team play in a conference with Washington St., Oregon St, Colorado, UCLA and Cal? You can't knock a teams conference affiliation when your own team has it's own share of conference doormats.

The sad thing is, Nebraska can't even beat Colorado anymore.

 

[trojanfan12]

Sounds like a good plan vb but things/times have changed. The historical success of Mizzou, K-State and WIsconsin aren't considered success anymore in the grand scheme of things. Success is now measured in making the CFP. The more data we get the more that data is telling us that if you don't cut it in attracting top talent several years in a row, your chances of achieving the new "success" are very, very difficult to overcome after NSD.

Example: Top recruit - Mizzou, K-State and Wisconsin have had three 9 win seasons and are recruiting this kid. Selling "we just need 4*/5* kids like you to get us to 11-12 wins so we can make the playoffs. Come play with us." Ohio State, Clemson and Alabama are after the same kids and selling "Come play with us. You get to play with a roster full of 4*/5* players just like you and make the playoffs every year."

Yes and no. I think it can be done, but a program has to stick with the same program which can be hard to do.

For example, Oregon recently had the longest run of sustained success in their history. Ducks fans can probably give more accurate detail on when it started, but they didn't just get a bunch of new uniforms and suddenly start winning games.

They did it by building on 3* kids that they developed. Then they started snapping some of the 4* kids from out of California since USC couldn't sign all of them.

Then, when Chip Kelly came in with his offense and USC got hit with the sanctions...they started pulling in a few more 4* and a 5* here and there and got themselves into the NC hunt. They hit a bit of a downturn when Helfrich couldn't sustain what Chip was doing. But they seem to have begun to right themselves again.

So they show it can be done, but it takes the patience to make a plan and stick with it. Sometimes through multiple coaches.

 

[Wamu]

The sad thing is, Nebraska can't even beat Colorado anymore.

When the Huskers came hear to Boulder to play CU in '18 and '19 the so called Buffs fans didn't support their team. For both games Folsom Field was at least 75% red. Pathetic.

And for some dumb reason CU fans see Nebraska as a bitter rival. The all time series is 49-20-2 in the Huskers favor. That's not a rivalry. That's getting slapped around by your neighbor.

 

[duckboy33]

When the Huskers came hear to Boulder to play CU in '18 and '19 the so called Buffs fans didn't support their team. For both games Folsom Field was at least 75% red. Pathetic.

And for some dumb reason CU fans see Nebraska as a bitter rival. The all time series is 49-20-2 in the Huskers favor. That's not a rivalry. That's getting slapped around by your neighbor.

That's even worse. Buffs don't even care about football and they still swept Nebraska in their last home and home.

 

[fordman84]

Not taking a shot at your school, I know I know, but I always wondered why WRs went there. I was a huge HUGE Dylan Wright fan, thought he was for sure going to be a Horn, but he committed to y'all. Never understood why WRs go there..TE's?? That I understood but not WR's. Still hoping one day he and Preston decide to hit the portal and for UT to bring them in.

Because we get WR's into the NFL, that's why.

Your school is who I was talking about with multiple 4/5*'s going in the same year. The year we got King, Texas signed the other two top QB's out of Texas. Why wouldn't one go somewhere else?

 

[Wamu]

That's even worse. Buffs don't even care about football and they still swept Nebraska in their last home and home.

Oh it was hilarious. And the lack of support for CU athletics from the students and the locals is embarrassing.

 

[Thiefery]

When the Huskers came hear to Boulder to play CU in '18 and '19 the so called Buffs fans didn't support their team. For both games Folsom Field was at least 75% red. Pathetic.

And for some dumb reason CU fans see Nebraska as a bitter rival. The all time series is 49-20-2 in the Huskers favor. That's not a rivalry. That's getting slapped around by your neighbor.

It's cause Colorado doesn't care anymore.. which is why it puzzles me why folks think they ever go back to the Big 12 in any future conference realignment scenarios

 

[Wamu]

It's cause Colorado doesn't care anymore.. which is why it puzzles me why folks think they ever go back to the Big 12 in any future conference realignment scenarios

That's the way it's pretty much been the entire 10+ years I've been in CO. They don't care. Been saying for years CU should leave the 12 Pac. They just aren't competitive. I think the Mountain West would be better for them athletically.

 

[duckboy33]

That's the way it's pretty much been the entire 10+ years I've been in CO. They don't care. Been saying for years CU should leave the 12 Pac. They just aren't competitive. I think the Mountain West would be better for them athletically.

Honestly, UW, UCLA, USC and Oregon should just leave the PAC 12. he issue is they need somewhere to go. They are geographically isolated. The only possible solution is some type of Big 12/PAC 12 merger in an attempt to keep up with the SEC and Big Ten.

 

[Thiefery]

Because we get WR's into the NFL, that's why.

Your school is who I was talking about with multiple 4/5*'s going in the same year. The year we got King, Texas signed the other two top QB's out of Texas. Why wouldn't one go somewhere else?

What WR do you have in the NFL besides the one in 2012 Mike Evans? WR go to die in Jimbo's offense.. Now if you are a TE, different story but at WR.. hell the guy that went to the NFL draft recently.. the team leader, did he get drafted? I mean Texas is awful with the draft but it had Duvernay and Johnson get drafted this past April. Lil Jordan didn't get drafted but has made it onto the Saints practice squad twice, including this season.

Thing is you have to recruit two QBs knowing that they will portal soon enough. It's better to figure out which one is better for you while on campus than just gambling on one or the other. Also, we all knew Jackson was going to be a project.. Card is more ready now but still has things to work on before playing any real time. They will both compete for the job next spring along with Casey Thompson. If Casey gets beat out, he's hitting the portal. However if he wins the job, look for either Jackson or Card to portal..or Jackson moves back to his LB position. Roschon Johnson was recruited as a QB and is now at RB.. Get an ATH QB who is good enough to still change roles and contribute.

 

[fordman84]

What WR do you have in the NFL besides the one in 2012 Mike Evans? WR go to die in Jimbo's offense.. Now if you are a TE, different story but at WR.. hell the guy that went to the NFL draft recently.. the team leader, did he get drafted? I mean Texas is awful with the draft but it had Duvernay and Johnson get drafted this past April. Lil Jordan didn't get drafted but has made it onto the Saints practice squad twice, including this season.

Thing is you have to recruit two QBs knowing that they will portal soon enough. It's better to figure out which one is better for you while on campus than just gambling on one or the other. Also, we all knew Jackson was going to be a project.. Card is more ready now but still has things to work on before playing any real time. They will both compete for the job next spring along with Casey Thompson. If Casey gets beat out, he's hitting the portal. However if he wins the job, look for either Jackson or Card to portal..or Jackson moves back to his LB position. Roschon Johnson was recruited as a QB and is now at RB.. Get an ATH QB who is good enough to still change roles and contribute.

Mike Evans
Christian Kirk
Josh Reynolds


And Evans was class of 2014, not 2012. if you want to talk practice squad guys at least we had Ratley and Swope drafted.

 

[Thiefery]

That's the way it's pretty much been the entire 10+ years I've been in CO. They don't care. Been saying for years CU should leave the 12 Pac. They just aren't competitive. I think the Mountain West would be better for them athletically.

Honestly, UW, UCLA, USC and Oregon should just leave the PAC 12. he issue is they need somewhere to go. They are geographically isolated. The only possible solution is some type of Big 12/PAC 12 merger in an attempt to keep up with the SEC and Big Ten.

Yeah, CO declined after the Klatt era was finished. Shame since Boulder is a beautiful place to visit during the late Summer/early spring for games. Big 12 could also trim down to make a competitive conference but with all the politics, not sure if it's even worth it TBH.

 

[Thiefery]

Mike Evans
Christian Kirk
Josh Reynolds


And Evans was class of 2014, not 2012. if you want to talk practice squad guys at least we had Ratley and Swope drafted.

yep.. and how many under Jimbo?

 

[fordman84]

yep.. and how many under Jimbo?

Well we lost 3 to the draft in the two years prior to Jimbo, so how about give him some time. Ausbon will probably be drafted this year.

 

[duckboy33]

Yeah, CO declined after the Klatt era was finished. Shame since Boulder is a beautiful place to visit during the late Summer/early spring for games. Big 12 could also trim down to make a competitive conference but with all the politics, not sure if it's even worth it TBH.

Politics are always part of conferences. In my view, the PAC 12 and Big 12 are seen as lesser than conferences. The only way to change that would be to have some sort of merger and cut the lower tier programs out. It will be difficult to make happen though.