Does Nebraska matter in the B1G?

[WhosYourDawggy]

Yes and no. I think it can be done, but a program has to stick with the same program which can be hard to do.

For example, Oregon recently had the longest run of sustained success in their history. Ducks fans can probably give more accurate detail on when it started, but they didn't just get a bunch of new uniforms and suddenly start winning games.

They did it by building on 3* kids that they developed. Then they started snapping some of the 4* kids from out of California since USC couldn't sign all of them.

Then, when Chip Kelly came in with his offense and USC got hit with the sanctions...they started pulling in a few more 4* and a 5* here and there and got themselves into the NC hunt. They hit a bit of a downturn when Helfrich couldn't sustain what Chip was doing. But they seem to have begun to right themselves again.

So they show it can be done, but it takes the patience to make a plan and stick with it. Sometimes through multiple coaches.

Stop and think what you just said Oregon had to do:

- Started developing 3* kids.
- Was able to get some Cali kids because USC couldn't sign them all.
- A generational coach came in running a scheme no one had done before, and which has now been gutted by substitution rules.
- Their main competitor got hit with sanctions so they could now pull 4* and 5* that competitor used to get.
- I'll add - and now they have a Saban tree coach running the show who knows how to $recruit$.

That's not exactly a process that can be duplicated.

 

[Thiefery]

Well we lost 3 to the draft in the two years prior to Jimbo, so how about give him some time. Ausbon will probably be drafted this year.

I think they are all good WRs, but it sucks when only one gets real targets.. and those are whatever scraps that don't go to the primary option..TE.

I know they just beat FL, but Jimbo's only other huge win was vs LSU in 2018.. which was a strange game but they jumped ball LSU to death in OT. When they face other legit teams.. it's like Jimbo slows down the offense and tries to kill the clock

 

[fordman84]

I think they are all good WRs, but it sucks when only one gets real targets.. and those are whatever scraps that don't go to the primary option..TE.

I know they just beat FL, but Jimbo's only other huge win was vs LSU in 2018.. which was a strange game but they jumped ball LSU to death in OT. When they face other legit teams.. it's like Jimbo slows down the offense and tries to kill the clock

I agree, it sucks when you have to play the #1 team 3 times (and #4 and #8) in a season. Leads to you being unranked so you get a crappy bowl and still beat the Big12 participant (who is ranked because easy conference competition)

 

[Thiefery]

Politics are always part of conferences. In my view, the PAC 12 and Big 12 are seen as lesser than conferences. The only way to change that would be to have some sort of merger and cut the lower tier programs out. It will be difficult to make happen though.

That travel is going to be ridiculous too. That's why I felt the Big 12 should stay at 10, unless another regional school wants in.. close shop. I enjoy the round robin schedule and the way it places it's two best teams into the CCG.

But money will rule everything at the end of the day and ESPN will influence it.. The upcoming deal between FOX and ou for tier 3 should be a strong indicator of what will happen in the near future.

 

[duckboy33]

That travel is going to be ridiculous too. That's why I felt the Big 12 should stay at 10, unless another regional school wants in.. close shop. I enjoy the round robin schedule and the way it places it's two best teams into the CCG.

But money will rule everything at the end of the day and ESPN will influence it.. The upcoming deal between FOX and ou for tier 3 should be a strong indicator of what will happen in the near future.

I think the era of regional conferences has come to an end. Just look at the nature of the ACC, SEC and Big Ten. The West is tougher since it's geographically bigger with more spread out populations.

 

[Thiefery]

I agree, it sucks when you have to play the #1 team 3 times (and #4 and #8) in a season. Leads to you being unranked so you get a crappy bowl and still beat the Big12 participant (who is ranked because easy conference competition)

Well it doesn't hurt Bama to have multiple WRs get yards and drafted, and it didn't hurt LSU either last season. You can give out excuses on why you lost but it doesn't change the fact that his offense sucks. Y'all beat Vanderbilt 17-12 or something like that.. Do you know how they fared since then? They are getting hammered. Y'all played Bama for a half, but their offense is too good/potent to think you can really go win a shoot out with Jimbo's offense.

I know most don't like Mond and is ready for the King era.. but the bigger question is, will Jimbo adapt the offense around King or will he continue to squeeze a round peg through a square hole?

 

[fordman84]

Well it doesn't hurt Bama to have multiple WRs get yards and drafted, and it didn't hurt LSU either last season. You can give out excuses on why you lost but it doesn't change the fact that his offense sucks. Y'all beat Vanderbilt 17-12 or something like that.. Do you know how they fared since then? They are getting hammered. Y'all played Bama for a half, but their offense is too good/potent to think you can really go win a shoot out with Jimbo's offense.

I know most don't like Mond and is ready for the King era.. but the bigger question is, will Jimbo adapt the offense around King or will he continue to squeeze a round peg through a square hole?

We aren't as good as Bama or LSU last year, so no excuses needed. Never claimed we were. But when you play those two plus Clemson as your OOC, it is going to be tough to have big records. But we still were developing WR's, and they are young. Takes time to develop them and keep them around.

First game of the season with no warmup patsies are tough. Texas knows this, so you played pushovers. How have you fared since you hit conference play? In a bad conference none the less. Thank god for a lucky play against Tech or you are 0-3. Vandy wasn't a pretty win, but we won.

 

[Thiefery]

I think the era of regional conferences has come to an end. Just look at the nature of the ACC, SEC and Big Ten. The West is tougher since it's geographically bigger with more spread out populations.

I know, the Big 12 won't last another 20 years, especially if the current P5 breakaway. My guess is that ou eventually gets cleared to head to the BIG.. Texas will either go Independent and put it's other sports into whatever the Big 12 is at that time.. or they decide to join the SEC with Tech in tow.

Out West, I think SC is best fit for going Independent in football only. Pac will get mad but accept it.. SC will do a deal similar to ND and the ACC where they will play up to 6 current PAC schools or something .

 

[fordman84]

I know, the Big 12 won't last another 20 years, especially if the current P5 breakaway. My guess is that ou eventually gets cleared to head to the BIG.. Texas will either go Independent and put it's other sports into whatever the Big 12 is at that time.. or they decide to join the SEC with Tech in tow.

Out West, I think SC is best fit for going Independent in football only. Pac will get mad but accept it.. SC will do a deal similar to ND and the ACC where they will play up to 6 current PAC schools or something .

Texas ain't coming to the SEC, enjoy being independent.

 

[NU_WTF?]

I'd love to hear the NE fans tell us how they think they can get back to some level of greatness. Here is why they are where they are, IMO:

1. No recruits alive today has any idea that Nebraska was ever great. It's been that long.
2. The best and most big uglies are in the south and staying in the south. How does NE come to GA/FL/LA/AL/TX and convince some of these kids to come to the middle of nowhere and play football when they can stay in the south and play for LSU, Bama, UGA, Clemson, and all the other really good southern schools.
3. CA as a recruiting bed has shrunk ... less and less kids in CA are playing football due to demographic issues - latinos and asians don't play football as much, and CA population has grown incredibly with latin and asians.
4. They are in the B1G and haven't competed with the big teams in the B1G, so recruits are more likely to go to B1GE teams and Wisky, and Iowa kids staying home.

Like I think college football is better when the PAC is good, it's better when teams like NE, FSU, Miami, UT - traditional powers - are good. You have fantastic fans. I'd love to see you really get back to greatness and challenge tOSU.

Like i think like you like have no idea what you are talking about like maybe get a clue then like totally post, okay?

 

[Thiefery]

We aren't as good as Bama or LSU last year, so no excuses needed. Never claimed we were. But when you play those two plus Clemson as your OOC, it is going to be tough to have big records. But we still were developing WR's, and they are young. Takes time to develop them and keep them around.

First game of the season with no warmup patsies are tough. Texas knows this, so you played pushovers. How have you fared since you hit conference play? In a bad conference none the less. Thank god for a lucky play against Tech or you are 0-3. Vandy wasn't a pretty win, but we won.

Oh I know it's rough to start out.. just really feel that his offense is a thing of the past. Texas issue is they only score in spurts, and shoots itself in the foot for about a solid 3 quarters of the game, despite having the more talented team on the field. This is why Tom must go.. Under his watch they have been the most penalized teams in the history of Texas football..more than the Chuck era smh

 

[Thiefery]

Texas ain't coming to the SEC, enjoy being independent.

lol If they want to go they will.. Slive even said Texas will always have a place.. who's gonna say no?

 

[fordman84]

lol If they want to go they will.. Slive even said Texas will always have a place.. who's gonna say no?

A&M, Mizzo, and Arky

That's who.

 

[duckboy33]

I know, the Big 12 won't last another 20 years, especially if the current P5 breakaway. My guess is that ou eventually gets cleared to head to the BIG.. Texas will either go Independent and put it's other sports into whatever the Big 12 is at that time.. or they decide to join the SEC with Tech in tow.

Out West, I think SC is best fit for going Independent in football only. Pac will get mad but accept it.. SC will do a deal similar to ND and the ACC where they will play up to 6 current PAC schools or something .

People often forget about other sports when they talk about going independent. The PAC 12 is not going to let USC compete in other sports if they leave for football. Is USC willing to play in the WCC?

 

[Deep Creek]

Because we get WR's into the NFL, that's why.

Your school is who I was talking about with multiple 4/5*'s going in the same year. The year we got King, Texas signed the other two top QB's out of Texas. Why wouldn't one go somewhere else?

So does Texas Tech.

 

[Thiefery]

A&M, Mizzo, and Arky

That's who.

so those three are gonna stop the conference from making even more money with the addition of UT and Tech??

Yeah, I'm also pretty sure that Arkansas would not want UT to roll into Fayetteville anymore, nor come to Austin every other year too. Why don't you also list LSU.. I bet they hated coming to Austin a year ago and are happy that Covid stopped this season from having horns fans in the red stick too.

 

[Thiefery]

People often forget about other sports when they talk about going independent. The PAC 12 is not going to let USC compete in other sports if they leave for football. Is USC willing to play in the WCC?

they can get mad but the games with SC are too lucrative for them to say no. They will take a hit on the TV package.. better to get some money back scheduling home game vs them.

 

[fordman84]

So does Texas Tech.

Ok. I never had the assertion that Tech couldn't.

 

[fordman84]

so those three are gonna stop the conference from making even more money with the addition of UT and Tech??

Yeah, I'm also pretty sure that Arkansas would not want UT to roll into Fayetteville anymore, nor come to Austin every other year too. Why don't you also list LSU.. I bet they hated coming to Austin a year ago and are happy that Covid stopped this season from having horns fans in the red stick too.

Jexas gonna give up the LHN? If not then that also stops them.

I listed the schools that go so sick of Texas' shit that they left them behind.

 

[duckboy33]

they can get mad but the games with SC are too lucrative for them to say no. They will take a hit on the TV package.. better to get some money back scheduling home game vs them.

They may play them in football but they will not be a member in any other sport, which means it’s not in SCs interest to leave. There’s a reason they’ve never done it