Does Nebraska matter in the B1G?

[NU_WTF?]

I explained why I thought your team is where it is today - it was a detailed, factual, substantive post. And I asked for you Nebraska fans to comment and tell me what you thought. You know, what people do on sports boards. Instead of responding, and I wouldn't care if you disagreed or not, you just babble on like a teenage girl. You Nebraska fans are disappointing me, and I happen to like your school and team.

You say educate myself before making up random stuff ... for fuck sakes, here is my post:

I'd love to hear the NE fans tell us how they think they can get back to some level of greatness. Here is why they are where they are, IMO:

1. No recruits alive today has any idea that Nebraska was ever great. It's been that long.
2. The best and most big uglies are in the south and staying in the south. How does NE come to GA/FL/LA/AL/TX and convince some of these kids to come to the middle of nowhere and play football when they can stay in the south and play for LSU, Bama, UGA, Clemson, and all the other really good southern schools.
3. CA as a recruiting bed has shrunk ... less and less kids in CA are playing football due to demographic issues - latinos and asians don't play football as much, and CA population has grown incredibly with latin and asians.
4. They are in the B1G and haven't competed with the big teams in the B1G, so recruits are more likely to go to B1GE teams and Wisky, and Iowa kids staying home.

Like I think college football is better when the PAC is good, it's better when teams like NE, FSU, Miami, UT - traditional powers - are good. You have fantastic fans. I'd love to see you really get back to greatness and challenge tOSU.

How is any of that random BS? To the contrary I made some very specific points backed by facts. I see how that might confuse someone who is just here to troll. One of the good Nebraska fans actually responded to each point, made some good points. That's the engagement I look for here ... maybe you have time to waste trolling people, I don't.

Because you are too dim to read the whole thread i guess you'll never know.... it has been stated why we are where we are and it has ZERO to do with recruiting, ZERO to do with being in the B1G. Nebraska hasnt changed recruiting, nor where we recruit or our typical "ranking" of where we recruit to. Like i said, this has already been covered, you just dont know what you are talking about.

 

[Angry Red]

I explained why I thought your team is where it is today - it was a detailed, factual, substantive post. And I asked for you Nebraska fans to comment and tell me what you thought. You know, what people do on sports boards. Instead of responding, and I wouldn't care if you disagreed or not, you just babble on like a teenage girl. You Nebraska fans are disappointing me, and I happen to like your school and team.

You say educate myself before making up random stuff ... for fuck sakes, here is my post:

I'd love to hear the NE fans tell us how they think they can get back to some level of greatness. Here is why they are where they are, IMO:

1. No recruits alive today has any idea that Nebraska was ever great. It's been that long.
2. The best and most big uglies are in the south and staying in the south. How does NE come to GA/FL/LA/AL/TX and convince some of these kids to come to the middle of nowhere and play football when they can stay in the south and play for LSU, Bama, UGA, Clemson, and all the other really good southern schools.
3. CA as a recruiting bed has shrunk ... less and less kids in CA are playing football due to demographic issues - latinos and asians don't play football as much, and CA population has grown incredibly with latin and asians.
4. They are in the B1G and haven't competed with the big teams in the B1G, so recruits are more likely to go to B1GE teams and Wisky, and Iowa kids staying home.

Like I think college football is better when the PAC is good, it's better when teams like NE, FSU, Miami, UT - traditional powers - are good. You have fantastic fans. I'd love to see you really get back to greatness and challenge tOSU.

How is any of that random BS? To the contrary I made some very specific points backed by facts. I see how that might confuse someone who is just here to troll. One of the good Nebraska fans actually responded to each point, made some good points. That's the engagement I look for here ... maybe you have time to waste trolling people, I don't.

Man your a dumb fucker. Why will Georgia lose Saturday?

 

[outofyourmind]

You forgot the part on how Switzer got the boys jobs at car dealerships that they never showed up for. He left as the NCAA was closing in - no?
I’m sure he would have thrived today since the guys can be paid from outside sources.

 

[Thiefery]

That's not the way the SEC works. We are the SEC. Our Tier 3 games are on the SEC network. We have divisions, but they are all SEC. Seems like you UT people look at it differently than us SEC folks. SECtx, please.

They would all still get paid the same.. Again it would be up to ESPN.. they can flip the LHN into SEC2 and call it whatever they want.. or they can just buy out the LHN contract.. Holy shit didn't realize you spoke for all of SEC wtf? just come out and say it in JAWJA we don't do that .. quit trying to speak for a conference

A coach who acts like a moron that is paid millions of dollars. Your AD should go with the coach. Hire Klieman from kstate. You'd win the big 12 every year. He probably wouldn't be sexy enough for the donors though. You say Nebraska and Texas are the same except Texas has hope, but you fail to see the big picture or what's behind the curtain. Texas loses to Kansas, Maryland, Kansas St, Iowa St. And it is no longer shocking. An OU fan tells me Texas is Mike Tyson and Nebraska doesn't know how to make a fist. Big 12 is garbage, and I look forward to playing OU next season. That will be one of the easier games. whorns down.

AD didn't hire Tom.. an interim did and was pushed by the Houston area BMDs to get Tom. Now what was the current ADs fault was extending him after year 2 when he did not need to. Luckily, they have raised the money and will be firing Tom as soon as his buyout reaches 15 mil (Dec 1st).
I'm pretty certain on who is coming but I don't want to jinx it.

 

[fordman84]

They would all still get paid the same.. Again it would be up to ESPN.. they can flip the LHN into SEC2 and call it whatever they want.. or they can just buy out the LHN contract.. Holy shit didn't realize you spoke for all of SEC wtf? just come out and say it in JAWJA we don't do that .. quit trying to speak for a conference

AD didn't hire Tom.. an interim did and was pushed by the Houston area BMDs to get Tom. Now what was the current ADs fault was extending him after year 2 when he did not need to. Luckily, they have raised the money and will be firing Tom as soon as his buyout reaches 15 mil (Dec 1st).
I'm pretty certain on who is coming but I don't want to jinx it.

Herman isn't going anywhere this year, you get him for one more season before he is gone. He's going to ruin this recruiting year and the next.

Question, how many coaches need to "ruin recruiting" before Jexas starts to realize that not everyone is dying to go there? Mack was accused of not recruiting well, Strong was accused of not recruiting well, and now Tom is being accused of not recruiting well. Smart people see it as Texas just doesn't realize you have to do more than just exist to get recruits anymore.

 

[huskers1217]

No

i thought we were friends....

 

[Thiefery]

Herman isn't going anywhere this year, you get him for one more season before he is gone. He's going to ruin this recruiting year and the next.

Question, how many coaches need to "ruin recruiting" before Jexas starts to realize that not everyone is dying to go there? Mack was accused of not recruiting well, Strong was accused of not recruiting well, and now Tom is being accused of not recruiting well. Smart people see it as Texas just doesn't realize you have to do more than just exist to get recruits anymore.

Herman is done, it's over. This class is already ranked as a transition class. Bowman decommitted, LJ Johnson is now going to y'all after being a silent, and Shemar Turner is probably going to re-shoot his video and choose someone else other that UT.

But again it's not the players themselves, it's the coaching. Herman even said it himself that he's the one slowing the pace down..he's 'governing" Yurcich. Herman era is the most penalized teams under any regime..including Chuck's.

I'm assuming you view yourself as a smart person too right? Don't you feel that it takes more than players at your school too? I get it, the BMDs chose wrong with getting TH back in '16.. And one thing I don't want is for Texas to go through a period like you with miss after miss on coaching. You went from RC to Fran to Sherman to Sumlin and now Jimbo.. You are obviously sold on Jimbo, I think you are overpaying for Sumlin results but that's me.. But back to the Flagship, we need to nail this hire.. keep TH not only you lose this class but most likely Ewers and any shot in a stacked 22 class.

 

[Volbound1700]

Yeah -- this is Nebraska's problem. They have next to no instate talent and they don't have any talent in surrounding states.
Now that they are in the B1G -- they are a bottom feeder academically compared to the rest of the conference, so that doesn't help them either.
They now have to sell kids in the SW and West that they will be playing half their season in the Midwest.
I don't think they have a shot to be a national contender ever again, unless they moved the school.
I think they can get to be like a Wisconsin, but I think that is there ceiling in today's CFB landscape.

I am going to get trolled for this one but is the B1G really anything that special in Academics.

I would take Vanderbilt over any B1G school. Plus Academic rankings seem to be more about how aligned the school is with the mainstream liberal media than it is about Academic performance. Look at Texas A&M, you wouldn't consider them anything special but they seem to graduate the most students that get employed.

I know Michigan and Northwestern have a great reputation. Purdue is known for its engineering. But most of the rest of the schools seem to be no different than any of the other Power 5 leagues, just big public schools. I don't see them employing anymore people than UT, UK, or any insert public school from any other league.

I would say also that both the ACC and Pac12 have stronger schools. ACC has Duke, UNC, Boston College, Notre Dame (kind of), Georgia Tech, Virginia, and even Virginia Tech which is known for its engineering.

I would take the four Pac12 California schools over anyone in the B1G except may Northwestern.

Not trying to diminish the B1G Academically but I just don't see enough there to justify the arrogant attitude that they have. Unless your the Ivy League, MIT, Stanford, Cal, Vanderbilt, Washington U in St Louis, John-Hopkins, Emery & Henry, etc.; I don't think you have that much bragging rights.

BTW, my sister graduated in the Science field from Vanderbilt and did a lot of summer internships that included Duke, UMass, BYU, etc. Out of all the schools, Duke was the least impressive and UMass probably had the best program but wasn't on the radar (at least from the perspective of her ability to grow and learn).

Another issue with these "highly" ranked schools is that they are graded by professors. Professors are graded by their ability to research and write papers, not necessarily their ability to teach.

 

[fordman84]

Herman is done, it's over. This class is already ranked as a transition class. Bowman decommitted, LJ Johnson is now going to y'all after being a silent, and Shemar Turner is probably going to re-shoot his video and choose someone else other that UT.

But again it's not the players themselves, it's the coaching. Herman even said it himself that he's the one slowing the pace down..he's 'governing" Yurcich. Herman era is the most penalized teams under any regime..including Chuck's.

I'm assuming you view yourself as a smart person too right? Don't you feel that it takes more than players at your school too? I get it, the BMDs chose wrong with getting TH back in '16.. And one thing I don't want is for Texas to go through a period like you with miss after miss on coaching. You went from RC to Fran to Sherman to Sumlin and now Jimbo.. You are obviously sold on Jimbo, I think you are overpaying for Sumlin results but that's me.. But back to the Flagship, we need to nail this hire.. keep TH not only you lose this class but most likely Ewers and any shot in a stacked 22 class.

Well I guess we will find out in December which of us is right. Herman isn't going to go anywhere I don't think.

Texas suffers from their own bravado. Everyone there thinks the state of Texas all wants to attend Austin, and that's not the case anymore. When A&M went to the SEC it gave in state recruits a legit choice to make between Texas and A&M. Recruiting is down for Texas, coaching is down for Texas, and recruiting is up for A&M since the move. Coaching is still questionable since no matter what I say you will claim someone other than Jimbo is why, so not even going to waste my time with you on that.
"Do you want one big game a year in Dallas, or do you want multiple big games against top talent on national TV many times a year?" is all recruiters have to say. The RRSO flop the same weekend as the UF upset has already netted us one flip and I'm sure more will follow.

 

[Thiefery]

Well I guess we will find out in December which of us is right. Herman isn't going to go anywhere I don't think.

Texas suffers from their own bravado. Everyone there thinks the state of Texas all wants to attend Austin, and that's not the case anymore. When A&M went to the SEC it gave in state recruits a legit choice to make between Texas and A&M. Recruiting is down for Texas, coaching is down for Texas, and recruiting is up for A&M since the move. Coaching is still questionable since no matter what I say you will claim someone other than Jimbo is why, so not even going to waste my time with you on that.
"Do you want one big game a year in Dallas, or do you want multiple big games against top talent on national TV many times a year?" is all recruiters have to say. The RRSO flop the same weekend as the UF upset has already netted us one flip and I'm sure more will follow.

what are you talking about?? Your #1 sales pitch is SEC SEC SEC, then you see those same kids you are on head to GA, FL, LSU and Bama.. Hell at this point Jimbo is recruiting more kids out in the NorthEast.. as in NJ,DE, PA, etc.

Don't go full Looch here, and recruiting has been about the same between UT/aggy.. And you are right.. UT has had higher success recruiting in the past, and this is the highest for y'all ... yet we are basically the same over the past two classes.

Brockermeyer twins are the first legacy kids that I can remember spurning UT.. Do you really want to know how many aggy legacys have spurned aggy?

I admit, y'all fully let in SEC schools in the state.. sad part is that most of the kids still aren't choosing aggy..lol it's like they actually figure out hey there's more schools that actually win in the SEC.. why go to aggy and stack up moral victories when I can go get actual vicotries?

 

[fordman84]

what are you talking about?? Your #1 sales pitch is SEC SEC SEC, then you see those same kids you are on head to GA, FL, LSU and Bama.. Hell at this point Jimbo is recruiting more kids out in the NorthEast.. as in NJ,DE, PA, etc.

Don't go full Looch here, and recruiting has been about the same between UT/aggy.. And you are right.. UT has had higher success recruiting in the past, and this is the highest for y'all ... yet we are basically the same over the past two classes.

Brockermeyer twins are the first legacy kids that I can remember spurning UT.. Do you really want to know how many aggy legacys have spurned aggy?

I admit, y'all fully let in SEC schools in the state.. sad part is that most of the kids still aren't choosing aggy..lol it's like they actually figure out hey there's more schools that actually win in the SEC.. why go to aggy and stack up moral victories when I can go get actual vicotries?

Nice rant, too bad it isn't grounded in reality. What has happened is A&M's recruiting game has gone up, Texas' has gone down. Sad part is that if a Texas HS kid says he is too scared to play in the SEC then he goes to OU. Too bad the plan to put recruits HS games on LHN didn't pan out.

 

[Thiefery]

Nice rant, too bad it isn't grounded in reality. What has happened is A&M's recruiting game has gone up, Texas' has gone down. Sad part is that if a Texas HS kid says he is too scared to play in the SEC then he goes to OU. Too bad the plan to put recruits HS games on LHN didn't pan out.

bro tom had back to back top 5 classes and had #8 last season.. is that not reality? Yet you are here spewing that nobody wants to go to texas and now kids have a choice ... at aggy. Yet what makes you think they want to go there? More often than not they choose to play for the schools you are playing against, not you.

But go ahead and spin that y'all are on the up and up.. Guess the Bama game was a fluke, they don't want that rematch, right?

Maybe you can get Landon Jackson to realize y'all are ascending too? Or maybe tell JoJo Earl? Or maybe Blackshire?

 

[fordman84]

bro tom had back to back top 5 classes and had #8 last season.. is that not reality? Yet you are here spewing that nobody wants to go to texas and now kids have a choice ... at aggy. Yet what makes you think they want to go there? More often than not they choose to play for the schools you are playing against, not you.

But go ahead and spin that y'all are on the up and up.. Guess the Bama game was a fluke, they don't want that rematch, right?

Maybe you can get Landon Jackson to realize y'all are ascending too? Or maybe tell JoJo Earl? Or maybe Blackshire?

Adeleye is the top target at the moment, but yeah A&M recruiting is up since we came to the SEC. Herman had a nice bump when he was first here but as he keeps getting top10 classes he is turning them into teams that lose to bad teams. A&M loses to the Bama, Clemson, LSU, UGA's of the world and occasionally AUB. Not TCU, MD, and Iowa St's of the world.

And yeah, I realize I'm talking shit and will fuck up and lose to Capt Leach...but my points about Texas are still spot on.

 

[Thiefery]

Adeleye is the top target at the moment, but yeah A&M recruiting is up since we came to the SEC. Herman had a nice bump when he was first here but as he keeps getting top10 classes he is turning them into teams that lose to bad teams. A&M loses to the Bama, Clemson, LSU, UGA's of the world and occasionally AUB. Not TCU, MD, and Iowa St's of the world.

And yeah, I realize I'm talking shit and will fuck up and lose to Capt Leach...but my points about Texas are still spot on.

Doesn't matter who you lose to man.. a loss is a loss. BTW Adelye is going to be such a bust, you can save this post. His yes men told him he needs to be a stand up DE, kid lost weight.. and still isn't any faster/quicker. He needs to bulk back up and play his natural position.. DT. But you can't tell him he isn't a DE.. Too bad there aren't any more camps.. but there was some funny early summer footage of him getting owned going up against Kelvin Banks, and being the slowest through drills.. against guys twice his size mind you. I have more faith in Regis than him

Shemar Turner is the TRUTH though.. he's everything that people THINK Adelye is

 

[fordman84]

Doesn't matter who you lose to man.. a loss is a loss. BTW Adelye is going to be such a bust, you can save this post. His yes men told him he needs to be a stand up DE, kid lost weight.. and still isn't any faster/quicker. He needs to bulk back up and play his natural position.. DT. But you can't tell him he isn't a DE.. Too bad there aren't any more camps.. but there was some funny early summer footage of him getting owned going up against Kelvin Banks, and being the slowest through drills.. against guys twice his size mind you. I have more faith in Regis than him

Shemar Turner is the TRUTH though.. he's everything that people THINK Adelye is

A loss is a loss but a loss to someone you should beat is worse.

And A&M has been doing decent with pass rushers going to the NFL, so I have faith in the scouts.

 

[Skerpokes]

Another one of these threads? JFC

 

[Skerpokes]

Nebraska along with President Trump saved B1G football this year. So I'd say they matter.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

They would all still get paid the same.. Again it would be up to ESPN.. they can flip the LHN into SEC2 and call it whatever they want.. or they can just buy out the LHN contract.. Holy shit didn't realize you spoke for all of SEC wtf? just come out and say it in JAWJA we don't do that .. quit trying to speak for a conference

Of course I don't talk for the SEC. I am a fan on a sports board for fuck sake. Look at you in this thread ... how stupid would it be for me to say, "stop trying to speak for UT" ... I know you are just giving your opinion. Cmon, you seem to be better than that.

What I am trying to explain to you is the culture difference of the SEC. The idea that SEC would carve out a SECtx channel, or something like that, is antithetical to SEC culture. We are one conference, we even treat Vanderbilt the same for goodness sake. If UT came into the SEC, they would be on the same footing as Vanderbilt. I am not sure UT could stand that. That you say I should just say, "in Georgia we do this" is exactly why you may find UT independent one day. The SEC, B1G and the ACC think as a conference ... they won't kowtow to UT and treat them special.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Because you are too dim to read the whole thread i guess you'll never know.... it has been stated why we are where we are and it has ZERO to do with recruiting, ZERO to do with being in the B1G. Nebraska hasnt changed recruiting, nor where we recruit or our typical "ranking" of where we recruit to. Like i said, this has already been covered, you just dont know what you are talking about.

Too dim to read the thread, LOL. Where you are as a team today has nothing to do with recruiting? Seriously? Then how do you explain the drop in performance for the past 2 decades? Going from being one of the top teams in the country, to not even being in the top 5 o6 in your conference? I know exactly what I am talking about, I'll be interesting to hear what you think.

 

[NU_WTF?]

Too dim to read the thread, LOL. Where you are as a team today has nothing to do with recruiting? Seriously? Then how do you explain the drop in performance for the past 2 decades? Going from being one of the top teams in the country, to not even being in the top 5 o6 in your conference? I know exactly what I am talking about, I'll be interesting to hear what you think.

For being a supposed "law" student/graduate, you sure are pretty dim.

From a dumbass retarded on the outside looking in, sure you might just assume it is recruiting, but you'd be a dumbass for thinking that. Our recruiting hasnt changed.


If you were to actually follow college football, i dont know maybe you are one of the young pups you claim doesnt know anything about Nebraska football, you'd realize that our coaching blunders is the main reason.

Our coaching mistakes started with that asshat west coast 900 page game day playbook dickhead destroying our identity and culture, carried on with blo peeni and was utterly dismantled under smilin mikey with his optional strength and conditioning programs.

We havent had anything resembling an offensive line (unless you are speaking of how utterly offended we should be to call that product an O Line) without our bread and butter big beefy o-line we have no pass protect we have no running lanes we have no production..


anybody with half a brain can see that regardless of talent on the field if you have a shit oline that talent is going to get hurt, destroyed, and underproduce.


Perhaps your peabrain "law dawg" degree can understand this.