ELTEXAN Is An Idiot - Super Thread

fordman84 said:
Jesus you are a fucking moron. What do you think the follow means?


Note that the batter is not declared out in this situation if the infielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground except when the Infield Fly rule applies.

The batter is out as soon as IFR is called. Nothing every changes that. The ball is dead the moment it hits the ground.
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No. The batter is out. The ball is NOT dead. I see you’re quintupling down on your ignorance and lack of ability to read English.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Nope. Not changing anything. If you let it fall untouched, the ball is live. You were mentioning apologies?
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I accept your apology. You wanted to change the infield fly rule. Now you are changing it to talking about just a runner on first.

You are forgiven.
 
ELTEXAN said:
No. The batter is out. The ball is NOT dead. I see you’re quintupling down on your ignorance and lack of ability to read English.
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The rule is there. Learn to read.
 
fordman84 said:
I accept your apology. You wanted to change the infield fly rule. Now you are changing it to talking about just a runner on first.

You are forgiven.
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The ball is live if left to fall untouched whether it’s an ifr situation or not. Someone help this guy
 
trojanfan12 said:
Welp, after reading this thread I have learned that...

I still don't understand the infield fly rule...

but I understand it better than Jexan.
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Simple way is "is there a force at 3B and less than two outs". If yes, then IFR can be in effect. :suds:
 
ELTEXAN said:
The ball is live if left to fall untouched whether it’s an ifr situation or not. Someone help this guy
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Read the rule I posted. It can't be more clear. Sorry that you are illiterate.
 
fordman84 said:
Except he specifically was talking about infield fly rule. What he is NOW talking about is a runner just at first, that can NEVER be an infield fly rule situation. If they want to drop the ball with just a runner on 1B to get him out at second then it's their choice. Unlikely to get a double play out of it unless the batter doesn't leg it out to first, then that's on him.
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Only way that is worth the risk is trading a fast runner who is on base, for a slow guy that popped it up.

And any ball that you can get under with normal effort would need to be right at the bag to make that worth the risk.

Nobody is going to coach these scenarios. Just like Jeter wasn’t coached to cut a ball off ten feet from home. Because it worked once doesn’t mean he wasn’t somewhere he shouldn’t have been, doing something he wasn’t intended to do.
 
broncosmitty said:
Only way that is worth the risk is trading a fast runner who is on base, for a slow guy that popped it up.

And any ball that you can get under with normal effort would need to be right at the bag to make that worth the risk.

Nobody is going to coach these scenarios. Just like Jeter wasn’t coached to cut a ball off ten feet from home. Because it worked once doesn’t mean he wasn’t somewhere he shouldn’t have been, doing something he wasn’t intended to do.
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Yup, trading out a fast guy for slow is why it would be done. But it can't be a double play like ElJexan wants to pretend.
 
broncosmitty said:
It’s not a dead ball in MLB.

Might be at other levels. But it’s not at the highest.
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Not in an infield fly rule. It's the MLB rules I posted. The second the finger goes up, you can NOT get a double play.
 
broncosmitty said:
Only way that is worth the risk is trading a fast runner who is on base, for a slow guy that popped it up.

And any ball that you can get under with normal effort would need to be right at the bag to make that worth the risk.

Nobody is going to coach these scenarios. Just like Jeter wasn’t coached to cut a ball off ten feet from home. Because it worked once doesn’t mean he wasn’t somewhere he shouldn’t have been, doing something he wasn’t intended to do.
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He literally was coached to be there for the potential throw to third, but he decided to go home with it.
 
fordman84 said:
Not in an infield fly rule. It's the MLB rules I posted. The second the finger goes up, you can NOT get a double play.
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Can’t be a double play from the catch and the subsequent force. The force has been taken away via the IFR. But it can be a double play if a sleeping base runner tries to advance after the catch or the intentional non catch.

It’s not a dead ball until time is called.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Welp, after reading this thread I have learned that...

I still don't understand the infield fly rule...

but I understand it better than Jexan.
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This takes me back to high school umpire clinics. The amount of guys that could not wrap their heads around IFR was staggering.

It’s simple as stated here….is there a force at third? Are there less than two outs? Then it’s in effect and now becomes a judgement call on “reasonable to catch, which really isn’t that hard to figure out.
 
broncosmitty said:
“to redirect the throw to third base”

His own words.

It worked, but was not what he was coached to do.
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I literally said that. You can’t read either?

“He literally was coached to be there for the potential throw to third, but he decided to go home with it.”

You: “Jeter wasn’t coached to cut off a ball ten feet from home.”

You are wrong. You’re backtracking. You’re a tool
 
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