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Yeah man no way the ESPN would pay the new Big12 more money, especially since they aren't the exclusive TV rights for them.
FSU Leaving the ACC?
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That’s not an automatic event. I don’t know what their contract says but I would be absolutely floored if it had any language that said anything about expansion triggering a renegotiation. At best it probably has language that the contract would increase per school based on current metrics but it’s not assured that’s in there and if it is the conference probably has the ability to reject additions.
The SEC didn’t get a dime more when they added aTm and Mizzou and ate those increases. That’s a huge reason CBS had little shot at keeping the SEC because Sankey negotiated that contract and had egg on his face.
Your logic is flawed.
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There isn’t any scenario where a Big 12 team will out earn an ACC team based on conference payouts once the new deals go in. The only conceivable shot is if UCF made the playoffs and went far enough to breach the divide but we don’t even know what those numbers would be.
It’s just a false pretense.
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yeah.. that was the day the SEC was finished with CBS and CBS knew it.. it got the best value for it's money with that deal.. they had rights to the best SEC game every week at a fraction of the cost..
SEC is ready to shit on CBS whenever they try to put on a big BiG game at that 3;30 time slot
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No way, even the streaming services have the bundle.
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Yes, way. The value in basic cable was getting everyone to pay even if they didn’t consume sports. By 2027 basic cable will have lost more than half its subscribers … around 50 million households. Hulu TV and YTTV have less than 10 million subscribers. They’ve negotiated aggressively with ESPN. Twice I’ve been told I was losing it in YTTV. The value of the SECN, BTN, and the ACCN has dropped dramatically. Adding teams just to pick up market is not a thing anymore.
You can read any of dozens of articles on it. When the USC move was announced they talked a lot about how surprisingly little the B1G was getting for the LA market, the second largest in the country. It’s in my article I quoted … I think it’sa 20 million dollar delta per year. That’s not per team, that the conference. I’m not just making this up.
All that said, Rutgers still isn't any more "SUPER" than the other three I mentioned...and a lot more that could be listed that Rutgers isn't anymore "SUPER" than. They're getting paid more than the value they bring to the table. Money paid out is for marquee matchups involving big brands. Rutgers doesn't meet either of those anymore than a whole lot of other schools.
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They are not "SUPER" in any way other than population in the area.
But they are members of one of two Superconferences and will be cashing those checks.
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True but could Syracuse have brought that New York Market as well as Rutgers? Syracuse is a decent tv generator (definitely not a top 25 one but a lot better than Rutgers).
Sure Syracuse is 3-4 hours North of NYC but it is still in the same state. Tennessee has pull in Nashville and Memphis for example but UTK is no where near them. (Rutgers isn't even in the state of New York but granted it is in the NYC TV region).
I am thinking the B1G really should have picked up Syracuse instead of Rutgers. It was a better fit and I think it may have been enough to get them into NYC even though Syracuse really isn't that close to NYC.
However, I would like to hear from someone in the B1G or knew more about the time? I thought culturally that Pittsburgh and Syracuse were better fits for the B1G but I can understand why they left Pitt behind because they already had Penn State and Pitt just doesn't have a big following.
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I dont think they can bring in the same tv market. Rutgers has NJ and NYC areas. As far as fit, Im not sure either really fit but money is money.
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Is Syracuse far enough away that they don't bring NYC and NJ? For example take the Knoxville-Memphis example that I gave. Tennessee still has a significant presence in Memphis but it is as far if not further from UTK as Syracuse is from NYC. Syracuse is still a New York University.
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He lost me at the end about they just need to get over "legalities" and used OU and Texas as an example you can escape. OU and Texas actually make the case for FSU being stuck until at least 2033 (I guess that is the 1-year buy-out).
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yeah.. i think they can get out but it's gonna cost a lot.. UT and ou worked something out after ESPN threw the Big12 a huge bone
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This is totally true. Add in Missouri to the SEC for the same reason. That was the business model in 2007-2012. It's no longer the business model that is followed due to market conditions.
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Rutgers, which is in NJ, brought in NJ. The coup was that it also put the BTN into all cable households in NY as "in footprint" subscribers. That was worth tens of millions of dollars to the BTN. Syracuse would have delivered NY, but maybe not southern NY which is NYC, and not NJ.
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1. FSU is worth what? They have sucked for the last 6-7 years. They are in serious financial trouble that has nothing to do with the ACC. They win a few games and they think they are all that.
2. Why is he so sure the SEC will take them. They have their hands full with NIL, transfer portal, OU and TX, 9 game IC, 3-6-6 format, expanded CFP. They aren't looking to do any more expansion for a while.
3. Beneficial to the SEC? More eyeballs ... they are at the margin. Sure they would be one of three you might take (Clemson, FSU and Notre Dame). But it isn't a for sure thing. UF won't want them.
4. Fuck off FSU ... you specifically didn't come to the SEC because Bowden said the path was better in the ACC. So suck on it.
At the end of the day and they signed a deal. Going to have live with that. The SEC certainly isn't going to do anything to assist here.
Legalities to work out ... this guy has no fucking idea.