TV Series Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon

Big Al Rogorson said:
Folks best not bitch too much. They'll stop making these wonderful GoT shows. I really want one about the Conquest & one about Robert's Rebellion.
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ill said:
I highly doubt they stop making them
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If a show exists, there will be people who complain that things could have been better.

And i agree with @ill . GRRM's world is a cash cow that they are going to milk every cent they can out of.

Assuming the Dunk & Egg series goes off well, they will delve deeper into GRRMs stories. They could do a show centered around Bloodraven. That kind of coincides with the Dunk & Egg timeline. After that chronologically would be the fallout of summerhall into Robert's rebellion.


There's a ton of old lore they could also make into shows or movies, but that may only appeal to nerds like me.
 
Tharvot said:
If a show exists, there will be people who complain that things could have been better.

And i agree with @ill . GRRM's world is a cash cow that they are going to milk every cent they can out of.

Assuming the Dunk & Egg series goes off well, they will delve deeper into GRRMs stories. They could do a show centered around Bloodraven. That kind of coincides with the Dunk & Egg timeline. After that chronologically would be the fallout of summerhall into Robert's rebellion.


There's a ton of old lore they could also make into shows or movies, but that may only appeal to nerds like me.
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With all the money poured into GoT and LotR, I'm surprised nobody has tried to do a prestige TV version of Vikings/Last Kingdom, but without the historical accuracy.
 
About three hours ago, George R. R. Martin posted on his blog criticizing this awful television adaptation.

He's actually really light in his criticism considering how the TV writers have butchered his book, but even then, the post was taken down within about an hour (he probably got an angry phone call from HBO), though you can still see it archived at the following links.

But, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.

https://imgur.com/Mgdpijp

https://archive.is/M8fN3

https://web.archive.org/web/2024090...m/notablog/2024/09/04/beware-the-butterflies/

Again, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.
 
BusSport said:
About three hours ago, George R. R. Martin posted on his blog criticizing this awful television adaptation.

He's actually really light in his criticism considering how the TV writers have butchered his book, but even then, the post was taken down within about an hour (he probably got an angry phone call from HBO), though you can still see it archived at the following links.

But, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.

https://imgur.com/Mgdpijp

https://archive.is/M8fN3

https://web.archive.org/web/2024090...m/notablog/2024/09/04/beware-the-butterflies/

Again, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.
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Nothing alarming, but that last sentence could be like an imminent fart. Don't like the sound of it.
 
BusSport said:
About three hours ago, George R. R. Martin posted on his blog criticizing this awful television adaptation.

He's actually really light in his criticism considering how the TV writers have butchered his book, but even then, the post was taken down within about an hour (he probably got an angry phone call from HBO), though you can still see it archived at the following links.

But, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.

https://imgur.com/Mgdpijp

https://archive.is/M8fN3

https://web.archive.org/web/2024090...m/notablog/2024/09/04/beware-the-butterflies/

Again, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.
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Are you able to post the parts that don't mention season 3 and 4 spoilers or summarize it without the spoilers?
 
RememberTheKoy said:
Are you able to post the parts that don't mention season 3 and 4 spoilers or summarize it without the spoilers?
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Excluding parts that spoil seasons 3-4:

- He's unhappy the TV writers toned down the Blood and Cheese scene and minimized its consequences.

- He's unhappy the TV writers eliminated the character of Aegon's other son Maelor because that means future events involving Maelor can't happen.

- Before season 2, he talked to the TV writers about their plans for the series. He argued against some changes they were making, and they indicated they would take his thoughts into consideration, but then they just ignored his recommendations.

- He calls the TV writers' upcoming changes in seasons 3 and 4 "toxic."
 
BusSport said:
Excluding parts that spoil seasons 3-4:

- He's unhappy the TV writers toned down the Blood and Cheese scene and minimized its consequences.

- He's unhappy the TV writers eliminated the character of Aegon's other son Maelor because that means future events involving Maelor can't happen.

- Before season 2, he talked to the TV writers about their plans for the series. He argued against some changes they were making, and they indicated they would take his thoughts into consideration, but then they just ignored his recommendations.

- He calls the TV writers' upcoming changes in season 3 and 4 "toxic."
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Poor George. Who’d a thought billionaires would change things to fit their explanation of how the world works. They’re very honest and don’t want people to be radicalized. But George, you served your purpose. You wrote a story that captivated people and then sold it to the highest bidder. Wipe your eyes with those Bennies.
 
GRRM can shut the fuck up. The only words anyone needs to hear out of him are "I've finished writing"
 
BusSport said:
LA Times: House of the Dragon writer Sara Hess and actress Eve Best see Rhaenys as Hillary Clinton:







Sara Hess is also the writer responsible for Larys's foot fetish (invented for the TV series, with no basis in the books):



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With how trash season 2 was and the news of how George is upset about the changes, I am reminded of this post and news story.
 
BusSport said:
About three hours ago, George R. R. Martin posted on his blog criticizing this awful television adaptation.

He's actually really light in his criticism considering how the TV writers have butchered his book, but even then, the post was taken down within about an hour (he probably got an angry phone call from HBO), though you can still see it archived at the following links.

But, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.

https://imgur.com/Mgdpijp

https://archive.is/M8fN3

https://web.archive.org/web/2024090...m/notablog/2024/09/04/beware-the-butterflies/

Again, WARNING: THE POST HAS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3-4, so do not read if you do not want to be spoiled of what is coming in the future.
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Isn't he heavily involved and an executive producer?
 
SU Nittany Tide said:
Isn't he heavily involved and an executive producer?
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No, he's not heavily involved at all.

He is an executive producer in name only. That title is often given out as a purely honorary status to source material creators without them having any actual power or involvement in the production.

The TV writers just ignored his suggestions.
 
BusSport said:
No, he's not heavily involved at all.

He is an executive producer in name only. That title is often given out as a purely honorary status to source material creators without them having any actual power or involvement in the production.

The TV writers just ignored his suggestions.
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He was heavily involved earlier. This was an explanation of why he had been too busy to write.
 
Good on George for calling out the shitty TV writers. :clap:
 
Author Xiran Zhao, who is George R. R. Martin's close friend, has added the following:

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All right there has been some Discourse about George RR Martin because of that post he made going rogue on HOTD's writers (deleted a few hours later but archived) and I'm seeing some misinformed reactions by people who aren't in the publishing or entertainment industries so lemme clarify some things:

- Creators are not the ones with the power. Execs are. Even an author as big as George gets their opinions dismissed if the higher-ups don't want to listen.

- HBO has not listened to George's feedback and concerns for years. They do not have to, because once adaptation rights are signed away it is OUT of the author's hands. How do you think GOT Season 8 happened?

- George cannot just shut down production or refuse to let them make future seasons of any show inspired by his works because he doesn't like what they're doing. He can't break the contract willy-nilly either when HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS are at stake. I hope people keep that in mind before saying "oh why is he complaining while continuing to collect his royalty checks?" Well, if they're fucking up his stories he might as well get some money out of it.

- He's not complaining for complaining's sake. I hung out with him a few weeks ago and heard his full scope of opinions on HOTD and what he said in the post was VERY mild. Probably the least spicy storytelling critique he could've brought up. And I do believe this was on purpose and strategic. He's not going full scorched earth on HBO, but he's showing them that he COULD. He did this as a warning shot to get them to listen to him because clearly he saw some very upsetting plans for upcoming HOTD seasons. If he just wanted to complain there's way spicier shit he could've said.

- For those who think he's disrespecting the show's writers...How do you think he felt when they have dismissed his feedback in private and driven him to the point of risking legal action to make his point to them?

- Just because he didn't mention something in the post doesn't mean he approves of it or doesn't care, and the post should not be used to extrapolate his opinions on anything that's not related to what he specifically addressed. Again, what he said was VERY mild. Ultimately, what matters to him is logical storytelling and complex, morally gray characters.
 
Bored.
 
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