Guess the CFP Top 25

Red_Alert said:
And therefore the first selections should reflect that NOW. Not some Scenario Village.
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I agree, If you are a P5 teams things like strength should only come into play for those teams who have a loss (unless there are 5 undefeated P5 teams).
 
Deep Creek said:
Neither were Ohio State in 2016 or Alabama in 2017. One got whipped 31-0 in the semi and the other one won a natty without playing in their CCG. Two extremes. Spewing the 13th data point justification doesn't hold water IMHO. Just say we felt Team X is better and leave it at that.
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Okay? He didn't say that an 11-1 team couldn't get in.
 
Cave_Johnson said:
lol.

This committee always has been and always will be a fuckin' joke.

Why let teams play their way into the playoff when you can just get a group of retards together in a room and have them rank teams based on reputation and last year's performance?

I swear if these idiots had the same job in the NFL the Chiefs would be a top 5 team because "they have a lot of talent on paper and they were in the Super Bowl last year".
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Because:

1. With 132 teams in 10 conferences, there is no way to "play their way in." You simply do not get enough inter-conference play to let Win Loss or conference champs be the only determinative factor. Comparing a 32 team NFL league that schedules for parity with CFB makes no sense.

2. By the by-laws, their job is to get the 4 best. Not the conf champs, not the ones with the best records, not the Cinderalla story ... the best 4 and that is inherently subjective.

This is why going to 12 will make this go away. No one gives a shit if no. 13 thinks they got screwed ... don't lose 2-3 games.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Okay? He didn't say that an 11-1 team couldn't get in.
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I didn't either. Just that they shouldn't use the 13th data point inconsistently. Does playing a 13th game really make any difference in how good that team is? Not IMO. Bama was the same after 12 games as they would have been after 13. Same for Ohio State in '16. Same for Baylor or TCU in '14. Same teams whether they played 12 or 13 games.
 
Deep Creek said:
I didn't either. Just that they shouldn't use the 13th data point inconsistently. Does playing a 13th game really make any difference in how good that team is? Not IMO. Bama was the same after 12 games as they would have been after 13. Same for Ohio State in '16. Same for Baylor or TCU in '14. Same teams whether they played 12 or 13 games.
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13th data point is used like a tiebreaker.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Because:

1. With 132 teams in 10 conferences, there is no way to "play their way in." You simply do not get enough inter-conference play to let Win Loss or conference champs be the only determinative factor. Comparing a 32 team NFL league that schedules for parity with CFB.

2. By the by-laws, their job is to get the 4 best. Not the conf champs, not the ones with the best records, not the Cinderalla story ... the best 4 and that is inherently subjective.

This is why going to 12 will make this go away. No one gives a shit if no. 13 thinks they got screwed ... don't lose 2-3 games.
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Kburjr said:
As long as the committee picks who gets in, they control it. Just because you can't argue with their choices is beside the point.
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That's a feature, not a bug. It's built into the CFP mission statement. How else would it be done?
 


I would love making the Fiesta....I would not love facing a pissed of Cinci team that missed the playoffs looking for something to prove.
 
Deep Creek said:
That knife cuts both ways and Ohio State HAS benefited from it. And if you think committee members don't take the names on jerseys into consideration when two teams are equal, then I've got some ocean front property in El Paso I'll sell you. And there are 1,000 ways to justify it as long as criteria shift i.e. the 13th data point made a difference in 2014 according to the committee but not in subsequent years when it benefited Bama and Ohio State. Flannigan's Finagling Factor.

Can't blame the committee though. That is what we wanted...humans to be able to look at things besides just what a computer program spit out like the BCS. We wanted a fudge factor allowed. We got it.
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Man, does he not know how rare that is ... I'll take it all!
 
Kburjr said:
I just hope Georgia blows the doors off Alabama if they play, preferably in the CCG.
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Kburjr said:
Good question. It still doesn't change the fact that the CFP is done by invitation and not hard parameters.
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Again, a feature not a bug. There are no hard parameters that you could use in a 132 team, 10 conference setup. If you look back at the CFP, they actually do a pretty good job. Can you tell me a single team that didn't get in that you think would have won it all?

And, the 12 team CFP will make all this meaningless.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Again, a feature not a bug. There are no hard parameters that you could use in a 132 team, 10 conference setup. If you look back at the CFP, they actually do a pretty good job. Can you tell me a single team that didn't get in that you think would have won it all?

And, the 12 team CFP will make all this meaningless.
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Still think it's not a foregone conclusion it goes to 12. 8 seems more likely.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:


I would love making the Fiesta....I would not love facing a pissed of Cinci team that missed the playoffs looking for something to prove.
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Wow.

They don't even have OU making a bowl game?

Geez. I guess I'm seriously delusional or some shits?
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Again, a feature not a bug. There are no hard parameters that you could use in a 132 team, 10 conference setup. If you look back at the CFP, they actually do a pretty good job. Can you tell me a single team that didn't get in that you think would have won it all?

And, the 12 team CFP will make all this meaningless.
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There is no way with the current conference/schedule set up. Including the CFP. I understand all the different arguments, I have probably made them myself at one time or another. Still and all, the parameters should be set at the beginning of the year. Win your conference, go to the playoffs. If you win your conference, you are a champion. Go to the tournament of Champions. the indies either join a conference or don't play for the championship.
 
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