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osubuckeye89 said:
They both have 2 losses to unranked teams. They should be nowhere near the 12 team bracket. At some point losses and who you lose to have to matter. I could care less that they beat UGA.
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It would be a shame if the SEC doesn't have a ton of teams in the 12 man playoff, because they are, BY FAR, the best conference in CFB. The B1G is 2nd and we are a joke this year. Penn State is somehow #4 in the country?!?! They have beat one team I think with a winning record -- it is Illinois. Indiana is terrible, yet they are 10-1.

Ohio and Oregon are the two best in the B1G and I think if you had them face the top 8 teams in the SEC -- they'd lose as many games as they'd win. So I can see why you wouldn't want them in the playoff, but their conference is so stacked this year. Ole Miss, Alabama and Missouri are all tied in the 6th, 7th and 8th spot in the SEC standings. In the B1G, our 6th, 7th and 8th are Iowa, Minnesota and Michigan :pound:

If they are truly using the "eye test" and strength of schedule -- half the 12 man playoff should be SEC teams.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It would be a shame if the SEC doesn't have a ton of teams in the 12 man playoff, because they are, BY FAR, the best conference in CFB. The B1G is 2nd and we are a joke this year. Penn State is somehow #4 in the country?!?! They have beat one team I think with a winning record -- it is Illinois. Indiana is terrible, yet they are 10-1.

Ohio and Oregon are the two best in the B1G and I think if you had them face the top 8 teams in the SEC -- they'd lose as many games as they'd win. So I can see why you wouldn't want them in the playoff, but their conference is so stacked this year. Ole Miss, Alabama and Missouri are all tied in the 6th, 7th and 8th spot in the SEC standings. In the B1G, our 6th, 7th and 8th are Iowa, Minnesota and Michigan :pound:

If they are truly using the "eye test" and strength of schedule -- half the 12 man playoff should be SEC teams.
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Why are you stroking the SEC?

UGA hasn’t looked that great a lot of the time. Tennessee lost to fucking Arkansas and Texas we don’t really know cause they got a nice schedule draw. Hilarious to act like these teams are some dominating forces.

I’m not saying Oregon or Ohio State are either nobody is this year.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Can you read? I didn’t say great. I’m saying your claim that one set of teams is clearly superior to the other is bunk. I’ve written that twenty times. You. Are. Dumb.
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Look, I know what you keep typing. "Broadcost TV" - saying something over and over again doesnt' make it right.

I am telling you that you are applying the transitive property of sports to try and argue that you played a tough schedule. It
just doesn't work, and I haven't seen a single person jump in here and say your are correct.

One last time - you didn't play anyone other than UGA in the top half of the SEC. You lost to them at home by a lot. You played and beat the teams in the lower half of the conference and beat them. Just because a few of those teams upset a couple of teams in the top half of the league doesn't mean you didn't play a soft schedule. The top half is clearly superior to the bottom half, a handful of upsets notwithstanding. Every metrics says that. Everyone that knows anything about sports knows that.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It would be a shame if the SEC doesn't have a ton of teams in the 12 man playoff, because they are, BY FAR, the best conference in CFB. The B1G is 2nd and we are a joke this year. Penn State is somehow #4 in the country?!?! They have beat one team I think with a winning record -- it is Illinois. Indiana is terrible, yet they are 10-1.

Ohio and Oregon are the two best in the B1G and I think if you had them face the top 8 teams in the SEC -- they'd lose as many games as they'd win. So I can see why you wouldn't want them in the playoff, but their conference is so stacked this year. Ole Miss, Alabama and Missouri are all tied in the 6th, 7th and 8th spot in the SEC standings. In the B1G, our 6th, 7th and 8th are Iowa, Minnesota and Michigan :pound:

If they are truly using the "eye test" and strength of schedule -- half the 12 man playoff should be SEC teams.
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Oregon and OSU roll through the sec undefeated
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It would be a shame if the SEC doesn't have a ton of teams in the 12 man playoff, because they are, BY FAR, the best conference in CFB. The B1G is 2nd and we are a joke this year. Penn State is somehow #4 in the country?!?! They have beat one team I think with a winning record -- it is Illinois. Indiana is terrible, yet they are 10-1.

Ohio and Oregon are the two best in the B1G and I think if you had them face the top 8 teams in the SEC -- they'd lose as many games as they'd win. So I can see why you wouldn't want them in the playoff, but their conference is so stacked this year. Ole Miss, Alabama and Missouri are all tied in the 6th, 7th and 8th spot in the SEC standings. In the B1G, our 6th, 7th and 8th are Iowa, Minnesota and Michigan :pound:

If they are truly using the "eye test" and strength of schedule -- half the 12 man playoff should be SEC teams.
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Do I think that Bama and OM would beat a number of teams that will get into the CFP - IU, BSU, SMU, Miami, ND, PSU. Yes, I do if they play their A game. But they have played their C games too often against sub-par teams. At some point the games do have to matter.

The problem for Bama and OM is not that they lost 3 games - it is who they lost to. Candidly, the OU and UF games would be excusable if not for the Kentucky and Vandy losses. UF is playing really well right now, and OU seems to have found an identify. You could have lost one of those games along with losses to other good teams - UTjr for Bamd, and OM has to rely on LSU which isn't good. So, for example, UGA losing to Bama, OM, and maybe UTjr could make an argument and slide in. I am just not sure Bama can and OM can't - they don't have a single good win.

I think it will all come out in the wash. The Committee does have to institute a Quads like system, but that wouldnt' have helped Ole Miss. The more I think about this, they will have to do something like go to the 16 team playoff, 4 AQs for the SEC, B1G, 2 for the B12, ACC, 1 for the G5, and 3 at-large. The conferences will determine who gets in from their leagues. The at-large from a composite poll that will adjust over time to not look only at losses, but also body of work. Doing it by conference will encourage OOC games as they won't keep you out. And if you can't win OOC games, it isn't likely you will be top 4 in the P2 conferences.

I am sure there are all sorts of things wrong with this. But, something will have to happen to acknowledge the difference in competition. I really like the Quad concept.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Why are you stroking the SEC?

UGA hasn’t looked that great a lot of the time. Tennessee lost to fucking Arkansas and Texas we don’t really know cause they got a nice schedule draw. Hilarious to act like these teams are some dominating forces.

I’m not saying Oregon or Ohio State are either nobody is this year.
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Dude, you haven't looked great at times, and OU just barely beat Wisconsin. There really isn't an elite team this year.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Dude, you haven't looked great at times, and OU just barely beat Wisconsin. There really isn't an elite team this year.
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I said that lol.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable though to think that teams who lost to Vandy, Auburn, Arkansas, Oklahoma & Florida could also lose to teams like Iowa and Minnesota, they certainly aren’t dominant forces who are shoe ins to beat any P4 teams.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Why are you stroking the SEC?

UGA hasn’t looked that great a lot of the time. Tennessee lost to fucking Arkansas and Texas we don’t really know cause they got a nice schedule draw. Hilarious to act like these teams are some dominating forces.

I’m not saying Oregon or Ohio State are either nobody is this year.
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You know I am usually a B1G backer. We are trash this year.

I'm also not saying the SEC is some dominate force either. They simply have a way better conference than everyone this year.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
That Oklahoma game showed me that DeBoer might be in over his head. You coulda written Vandy off as a fluke until that point
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Your team came to Norman a few years ago, you know what it’s like. Far from a great OU team, but no one was coming into Norman and winning last night. Be glad when we get back to it happening more often.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Why are you stroking the SEC?

UGA hasn’t looked that great a lot of the time. Tennessee lost to fucking Arkansas and Texas we don’t really know cause they got a nice schedule draw. Hilarious to act like these teams are some dominating forces.

I’m not saying Oregon or Ohio State are either nobody is this year.
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Exactly, and the days of the same teams doing it every year are gone, long gone.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Oregon and OSU roll through the sec undefeated
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I'm usually the one on here arguing about the B1G being on par with the SEC. This year though -- the B1G is a train wreck. USC blows. Michigan blows. Michigan state blows. Penn State at #4 is a joke, as they haven't played anyone but Ohio and they lost. Indiana as a top 10 is a bigger joke. They haven't played an easier schedule than PSU.

You shouldn't penalize teams for the schedules they play, but it is laughable the B1G this year.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
You know I am usually a B1G backer. We are trash this year.

I'm also not saying the SEC is some dominate force either. They simply have a way better conference than everyone this year.
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If you can lose to Vandy, Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky Oklahoma or Florida you could also easily lose to the Iowa/Minnesota type teams.
 
SoonerC said:
Your team came to Norman a few years ago, you know what it’s like. Far from a great OU team, but no one was coming into Norman and winning last night. Be glad when we get back to it happening more often.
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But Ohio State won that game by 3 TD lol and Oklahoma was actually somewhat good that year. No excuses for Bama losing that bad.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Do I think that Bama and OM would beat a number of teams that will get into the CFP - IU, BSU, SMU, Miami, ND, PSU. Yes, I do if they play their A game. But they have played their C games too often against sub-par teams. At some point the games do have to matter.

The problem for Bama and OM is not that they lost 3 games - it is who they lost to. Candidly, the OU and UF games would be excusable if not for the Kentucky and Vandy losses. UF is playing really well right now, and OU seems to have found an identify. You could have lost one of those games along with losses to other good teams - UTjr for Bamd, and OM has to rely on LSU which isn't good. So, for example, UGA losing to Bama, OM, and maybe UTjr could make an argument and slide in. I am just not sure Bama can and OM can't - they don't have a single good win.

I think it will all come out in the wash. The Committee does have to institute a Quads like system, but that wouldnt' have helped Ole Miss. The more I think about this, they will have to do something like go to the 16 team playoff, 4 AQs for the SEC, B1G, 2 for the B12, ACC, 1 for the G5, and 3 at-large. The conferences will determine who gets in from their leagues. The at-large from a composite poll that will adjust over time to not look only at losses, but also body of work. Doing it by conference will encourage OOC games as they won't keep you out. And if you can't win OOC games, it isn't likely you will be top 4 in the P2 conferences.

I am sure there are all sorts of things wrong with this. But, something will have to happen to acknowledge the difference in competition. I really like the Quad concept.
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I'm sure there will be years where the B1G is stacked. But this year -- the B1G is terrible. Indiana is going to represent the B1G? In the last 6 quarters against Michigan and Ohio State they had 150 yards of offense. In 6 quarters.
Penn State has beaten one team with 6 wins on the year. Illinois.

So many teams in the B1G are trash, poor Indiana gave Cignetti 70+ million and Indiana is going to get smacked once they play a real schedule and all the teams down pass them up.

Will be interesting to see what they do with 12 teams. I know I can't be the only one who sees the enormous disparity in conferences
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Do I think that Bama and OM would beat a number of teams that will get into the CFP - IU, BSU, SMU, Miami, ND, PSU. Yes, I do if they play their A game. But they have played their C games too often against sub-par teams. At some point the games do have to matter.

The problem for Bama and OM is not that they lost 3 games - it is who they lost to. Candidly, the OU and UF games would be excusable if not for the Kentucky and Vandy losses. UF is playing really well right now, and OU seems to have found an identify. You could have lost one of those games along with losses to other good teams - UTjr for Bamd, and OM has to rely on LSU which isn't good. So, for example, UGA losing to Bama, OM, and maybe UTjr could make an argument and slide in. I am just not sure Bama can and OM can't - they don't have a single good win.

I think it will all come out in the wash. The Committee does have to institute a Quads like system, but that wouldnt' have helped Ole Miss. The more I think about this, they will have to do something like go to the 16 team playoff, 4 AQs for the SEC, B1G, 2 for the B12, ACC, 1 for the G5, and 3 at-large. The conferences will determine who gets in from their leagues. The at-large from a composite poll that will adjust over time to not look only at losses, but also body of work. Doing it by conference will encourage OOC games as they won't keep you out. And if you can't win OOC games, it isn't likely you will be top 4 in the P2 conferences.

I am sure there are all sorts of things wrong with this. But, something will have to happen to acknowledge the difference in competition. I really like the Quad concept.
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That is the problem for Bama and Ole Miss problem is some people want to pretend like they have 3 “quality losses” they leave the teams out and just use the “well look at their SOS! Lots of teams would have 3 losses!” That argument works if the losses were to like UGA Tennessee and Texas. Or even 2 of those 3 with only 1 unranked loss. But anyone trying to argue for Bama or Ole Miss this year is going to have a hard time getting taken seriously. Bama could still comically back in though, if anyone’s gonna get that bs luck it’s them.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
If you can lose to Vandy, Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky Oklahoma or Florida you could also easily lose to the Iowa/Minnesota type teams.
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As I said -- you know I usually am all about the B1G. Our conference is WAY down this year.
Penn State needs a fake punt to beat Minnesota by 1? Only beat Bowling Green by 7. Have to go to OT to beat USC? Somehow they are #4 in the country?

Indiana almost lost to Michigan for crying out loud. We are terrible. We can't throw a forward pass. And their big win is who? Michigan?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I'm sure there will be years where the B1G is stacked. But this year -- the B1G is terrible. Indiana is going to represent the B1G? In the last 6 quarters against Michigan and Ohio State they had 150 yards of offense. In 6 quarters.
Penn State has beaten one team with 6 wins on the year. Illinois.

So many teams in the B1G are trash, poor Indiana gave Cignetti 70+ million and Indiana is going to get smacked once they play a real schedule and all the teams down pass them up.

Will be interesting to see what they do with 12 teams. I know I can't be the only one who sees the enormous disparity in conferences
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