Let's see how long the 12 team CFP takes tp get here when this happens ...

WhosYourDawggy · Sep 13, 2021

Jerry Palm has UGA, Bama, Oregon and Oklahoma. tOSU and Clemson out.

I get there is a ton of football to play - Bama has to show it's real against some real teams, Oregon has to go to UCLA and plays 9 IC games, UGA always stubs its toe, and Oklahoma barely beat a homeless Tulane, in a home game freebie. But, should this play out and tOSU and Clemson get left out, the Alliance won't be holding back the CFP expansion any more.

College football bowl projections: Oregon ousts Ohio State for playoff spot, UCLA and Iowa in New Year's Six

Jerry Palm's College Football Playoff projection has changed twice in as many weeks

www.cbssports.com

Deep Creek · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Jerry Palm has UGA, Bama, Oregon and Oklahoma. tOSU and Clemson out.

I get there is a ton of football to play - Bama has to show it's real against some real teams, Oregon has to go to UCLA and plays 9 IC games, UGA always stubs its toe, and Oklahoma barely beat a homeless Tulane, in a home game freebie. But, should this play out and tOSU and Clemson get left out, the Alliance won't be holding back the CFP expansion any more.

College football bowl projections: Oregon ousts Ohio State for playoff spot, UCLA and Iowa in New Year's Six

Jerry Palm's College Football Playoff projection has changed twice in as many weeks

www.cbssports.com

There still isn't a "new member" to the CFP among those four.

We should start a pool to see who can pick the first "new" participant in the CFP.

osubuckeye89 · Sep 13, 2021

I think if we win out we still likely get in unless some crazy shit happens.

Clemson is probably in the same boat, except they have a way easier ride.

Red_Alert · Sep 13, 2021

Deep Creek said:
There still isn't a "new member" to the CFP among those four.

We should start a pool to see who can pick the first "new" participant in the CFP.

1st dibs on Iowa!! :playball:

WhosYourDawggy · Sep 13, 2021

osubuckeye89 said:
I think if we win out we still likely get in unless some crazy shit happens.

Clemson is probably in the same boat, except they have a way easier ride.

Palm's prediction, should everyone win out says otherwise. OU - 13-0, Bama or UGA 13-0, Bama or UGA 12-1, Oregon 13-0 would all get in before Clemson who lost to UGA, and tOSU who lost to Oregon. If you end up beating UM and they are actually good this year (I know, I know), and then beat Iowa and PSU, at least you would have a SOS argument. Clemson will not have that.

My whole point is that this is exactly why we should go to 12. It is absurd that 12-1 ACC and B1G champs not get a crack at the natty because we only have 4 slots. This may be the year where we see there is about 8 teams that might win it. Maybe not, but I have a feeling that with all the turnover at QB at the top, we are going to have 6-8 teams that are pretty good. I'd hate to see a really good Iowa team, as an example, get left out when they should get a crack at it if they continue to play as well as they are playing.

osubuckeye89 · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Palm's prediction, should everyone win out says otherwise. OU - 13-0, Bama or UGA 13-0, Bama or UGA 12-1, Oregon 13-0 would all get in before Clemson who lost to UGA, and tOSU who lost to Oregon. If you end up beating UM and they are actually good this year (I know, I know), and then beat Iowa and PSU, at least you would have a SOS argument. Clemson will not have that.

My whole point is that this is exactly why we should go to 12. It is absurd that 12-1 ACC and B1G champs not get a crack at the natty because we only have 4 slots. This may be the year where we see there is about 8 teams that might win it. Maybe not, but I have a feeling that with all the turnover at QB at the top, we are going to have 6-8 teams that are pretty good. I'd hate to see a really good Iowa team, as an example, get left out when they should get a crack at it if they continue to play as well as they are playing.

It's much too early to tell.

Oregon probably has to go undefeated to be assured a spot due to how awful the rest of the Pac 12 looks. They really don't want to be left up to a toss up by the committee

WhosYourDawggy · Sep 13, 2021

osubuckeye89 said:
It's much too early to tell.

Oregon probably has to go undefeated to be assured a spot due to how awful the rest of the Pac 12 looks. They really don't want to be left up to a toss up by the committee

Hence ... "I get there is a ton of football to play" in my OP. I agree that the PAC champ will have to go undefeated to win. The benefit of the doubt will go to the SEC RU with a loss, Clemson, tOSU. With Texas and ISU losing badly, I am not sure that OU will get the benefit of the doubt with a loss this year. They better not stumble.

Deep Creek · Sep 13, 2021

Red_Alert said:
1st dibs on Iowa!!

I just looked at their schedule the rest of the way. You may be correct.

Deep Creek · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Palm's prediction, should everyone win out says otherwise. OU - 13-0, Bama or UGA 13-0, Bama or UGA 12-1, Oregon 13-0 would all get in before Clemson who lost to UGA, and tOSU who lost to Oregon. If you end up beating UM and they are actually good this year (I know, I know), and then beat Iowa and PSU, at least you would have a SOS argument. Clemson will not have that.

My whole point is that this is exactly why we should go to 12. It is absurd that 12-1 ACC and B1G champs not get a crack at the natty because we only have 4 slots. This may be the year where we see there is about 8 teams that might win it. Maybe not, but I have a feeling that with all the turnover at QB at the top, we are going to have 6-8 teams that are pretty good. I'd hate to see a really good Iowa team, as an example, get left out when they should get a crack at it if they continue to play as well as they are playing.

One loss conference champs have been left out several times haven't they?

osubuckeye89 · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Hence ... "I get there is a ton of football to play" in my OP. I agree that the PAC champ will have to go undefeated to win. The benefit of the doubt will go to the SEC RU with a loss, Clemson, tOSU. With Texas and ISU losing badly, I am not sure that OU will get the benefit of the doubt with a loss this year. They better not stumble.

Yea OU might be in the undefeated or sweat hard on selection day category too

Clemson will definitely get the benefit of the doubt with 1 loss even though the ACC is complete ass.

rmilia1 · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Jerry Palm has UGA, Bama, Oregon and Oklahoma. tOSU and Clemson out.

I get there is a ton of football to play - Bama has to show it's real against some real teams, Oregon has to go to UCLA and plays 9 IC games, UGA always stubs its toe, and Oklahoma barely beat a homeless Tulane, in a home game freebie. But, should this play out and tOSU and Clemson get left out, the Alliance won't be holding back the CFP expansion any more.

College football bowl projections: Oregon ousts Ohio State for playoff spot, UCLA and Iowa in New Year's Six

Jerry Palm's College Football Playoff projection has changed twice in as many weeks

www.cbssports.com

He also has OU losing a game which makes no sense to me . If Oklahoma, Clemson and OSU all end with 1 loss OU will be sitting at home watching the playoff. 100%.

WhosYourDawggy · Sep 13, 2021

osubuckeye89 said:
Yea OU might be in the undefeated or sweat hard on selection day category too

Clemson will definitely get the benefit of the doubt with 1 loss even though the ACC is complete ass.

Depending on how things shake out, I don't think they do exactly because the ACC is so bad. Now, if UNC. VaTech, and a few others manup, maybe not. And we need to see Iowa, PSU, UM and Whisky be good for you guys. As we both realize, way too soon. But, I love the idea that expansion is no good while Clemson and tOSU get in every year. Let that change like 2017 and watch us go to 12 stat.

WhosYourDawggy · Sep 13, 2021

Deep Creek said:
One loss conference champs have been left out several times haven't they?

Not sure, but don't think so.

ellupo · Sep 13, 2021

Buckeyes would need to show some vast improvement and losses by others to even sniff the playoffs.

osubuckeye89 · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Depending on how things shake out, I don't think they do exactly because the ACC is so bad. Now, if UNC. VaTech, and a few others manup, maybe not. And we need to see Iowa, PSU, UM and Whisky be good for you guys. As we both realize, way too soon. But, I love the idea that expansion is no good while Clemson and tOSU get in every year. Let that change like 2017 and watch us go to 12 stat.

Clemson might drop another game at some point if their offense plays like they did against UGA though, That oline is a hot mess

Hell if our defense doesnt get their shit together we might lose 1-2 more games too.

Nobody looks particularly unbeatable this year.

duckboy33 · Sep 13, 2021

osubuckeye89 said:
It's much too early to tell.

Oregon probably has to go undefeated to be assured a spot due to how awful the rest of the Pac 12 looks. They really don't want to be left up to a toss up by the committee

If Oregon goes 12-1, they will almost certainly be in.

Wild Turkey · Sep 13, 2021

WhosYourDawggy said:
Palm's prediction, should everyone win out says otherwise. OU - 13-0, Bama or UGA 13-0, Bama or UGA 12-1, Oregon 13-0 would all get in before Clemson who lost to UGA, and tOSU who lost to Oregon. If you end up beating UM and they are actually good this year (I know, I know), and then beat Iowa and PSU, at least you would have a SOS argument. Clemson will not have that.

My whole point is that this is exactly why we should go to 12. It is absurd that 12-1 ACC and B1G champs not get a crack at the natty because we only have 4 slots. This may be the year where we see there is about 8 teams that might win it. Maybe not, but I have a feeling that with all the turnover at QB at the top, we are going to have 6-8 teams that are pretty good. I'd hate to see a really good Iowa team, as an example, get left out when they should get a crack at it if they continue to play as well as they are playing.

What if an undefeated Iowa got left out? The internet would explode.

Rolltide94 · Sep 13, 2021

osubuckeye89 said:
It's much too early to tell.

Oregon probably has to go undefeated to be assured a spot due to how awful the rest of the Pac 12 looks. They really don't want to be left up to a toss up by the committee

I'm clearly not a fan of the Pac-12, but how would you not take a 12-1 Oregon over a 12-1 Ohio State.

Wild Turkey · Sep 13, 2021

Rolltide94 said:
I'm clearly not a fan of the Pac-12, but how would you not take a 12-1 Oregon over a 12-1 Ohio State.

It would depend on who Oregon lost to and how and how Ohio State finished.

If Ohio State improves each week and handles an undefeated Iowa pretty well it could be a compelling case.

Remember when Baylor beat TCU but TCU was still ranked higher with the same record?

Collegefbfan · Sep 13, 2021

I might be way off here. Some teams should get better and improve conference strength. Clemson could face some 9 win ACC teams, same for PAC 12 teams. But there are teams that will just improve no matter what the first week or two showed. Ohio State for one. Oklahoma is another. Still way too much ball to be played. Don't most conferences have a forfeit deal if too many players on a team have covid? That could happen to an undefeated team and another team could jump them.