Lincoln Riley is a dumbass

[Bayou Tiger]

You have literally added nothing constructive to this thread and your one shining post was saying that Alabama NIL deal would be limited to just the 90,000 fans in Tuscaloosa. Do you even read your own posts?

I assessed the merits of your thread and found it lacking. I discovered you were just stupid.

I pointed out how stupid you were and most have agreed with that assessment.

 

[Bayou Tiger]

I haven't even responded to you half the time because I am just too stupid.

fify

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

NIL deals are for the players....not the team. Try and stay on point.

The post to which I was responding was about which programs drove the most revenue, at least as I read it ... "There is a reason all of the top 10 generating programs are on the East Coast."

As for NIL, there isn't enough data for there to be any meaningful data. It's barely 5 months old. If it turns out that geographical location has anything to it, USC would be well situated. If large fanbases mean anything, not as much for USC. I am thinking that social media will be the driver, and I think that neutralizes location.

 

[trojanfan12]

I get it but my point is that Oklahoma had the same potential as USC. Brands are not regional anymore, they are national.

The big issue with USC could be exposure. They won't have the Alabama's, LSU's, Texas', etc. I know Texas sucks but the RRSO brings eyeballs.

USC does have Oregon so that is one plus (although they don't play Oregon every year). USC also has Notre Dame. However, no one is going to tune in for most of the other games. You might have some eyeballs for UCLA, Arizona State, and Utah if those programs are up.

Not really because they don't have USC's marketing power. The major networks (the one televising games and paying the big money) disagree with you. No offense, but I'm going to go with what they're saying. Also, who does Oklahoma have besides Texas who has been down for years? USC has Oregon, Notre Dame and has never shied away from playing top schools OOC.

Just with Oregon and Notre Dame, that's more than Oklahoma. Oklahoma doesn't even have Nebraska anymore.

USC had to travel, even with Pete Carroll, to get attention. The reason Pete Carroll was so successful is because he traveled to Auburn and destroyed them, traveled to Notre Dame and destroyed them, traveled to Nebraska and destroyed them, etc.

Actually, USC didn't HAVE to travel, they chose to travel because Pete Carroll was smart enough to know that if you traveled into another teams territory, beat them and looked like you were having fun doing it...you could then come back in the off season and recruit there. Under Pete Carroll, USC was getting players that normally would have gone to the SEC, or Texas/Oklahoma/Nebraska, Notre Dame, Penn St. etc. that's why they travelled. They were poaching.

He also had some very good athletes in his early era including Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, and Reggie Bush. These guys were not just talented on the field but also had a persona off the field (kind of like Peyton Manning for Tennessee). Heck, Reggie Bush is still appearing in Wendy Commercials and he hasn't been relevant on the football field in decades.

And? All of that is/was a result of the winning that was done when they played there. If USC gets back to winning like that, current players will those same opportunities and likely even more because they have NIL now.

 

[Bayou Tiger]

Can we get a Mod in here to change the thread title....

Please replace "Lincoln Riley" with "@Volbound1700".

Thank you!

 

[Volbound1700]

fify

Do you want a prize for being a moron? Here you go.

Congratulations...

 

[Volbound1700]

Not really because they don't have USC's marketing power. The major networks (the one televising games and paying the big money) disagree with you. No offense, but I'm going to go with what they're saying. Also, who does Oklahoma have besides Texas who has been down for years? USC has Oregon, Notre Dame and has never shied away from playing top schools OOC.

Just with Oregon and Notre Dame, that's more than Oklahoma. Oklahoma doesn't even have Nebraska anymore.



Actually, USC didn't HAVE to travel, they chose to travel because Pete Carroll was smart enough to know that if you traveled into another teams territory, beat them and looked like you were having fun doing it...you could then come back in the off season and recruit there. Under Pete Carroll, USC was getting players that normally would have gone to the SEC, or Texas/Oklahoma/Nebraska, Notre Dame, Penn St. etc. that's why they travelled. They were poaching.



And? All of that is/was a result of the winning that was done when they played there. If USC gets back to winning like that, current players will those same opportunities and likely even more because they have NIL now.

If that is true, why isn't USC in the top 10 CFB Value Programs metrics and why is the Pac12 Network way behind B1G and SEC?

 

[ELTEXAN]

I’m a stud wide receiver.
Im thinking of going to usc or OU.
There’s this new money making opportunity called NIL.
Let me think.
Do I want a check from the guy who owns a chain of bbq restaurants in okc, or a check from the guy who owns 22 car dealerships in southern Cali?

 

[Peter Gozintite]

The highest-grossing football programs in college football are...

In college football, like in life, money doesn't solve every problem -- but it does give you a head start. FootballScoop has obtained financial data for every

footballscoop.com

College Football Value Rankings

graphics.wsj.com

The 10 most valuable programs in college football

The chatter surrounding conference realignment has sparked a debate on whether Texas and Oklahoma are worthy of joining the SEC.

longhornswire.usatoday.com

1. Texas -- $156 million
2. Georgia -- $123 million
3. Michigan -- $122 million
4. Notre Dame -- $116 million
5. Ohio State -- $115 million
6. Penn State -- $100 million
7. Auburn -- $95 million
8. Oklahoma -- $94.8 million
9. Alabama -- $94.6 million
10. Nebraska -- $94.3 million
11. LSU -- $92 million
12. Tennessee -- $91 million
13. Wisconsin -- $90 million
14. Florida -- $85 million
15. Washington -- $84 million

how many of these teams are east coast? all of them?

 

[Peter Gozintite]

The highest-grossing football programs in college football are...

In college football, like in life, money doesn't solve every problem -- but it does give you a head start. FootballScoop has obtained financial data for every

footballscoop.com

College Football Value Rankings

graphics.wsj.com

The 10 most valuable programs in college football

The chatter surrounding conference realignment has sparked a debate on whether Texas and Oklahoma are worthy of joining the SEC.

longhornswire.usatoday.com

Wait, none of this has anything to do with NIL value. Just stop. This is not agreeing to disagree, this is you being wrong.

 

[Volbound1700]

I’m a stud wide receiver.
Im thinking of going to usc or OU.
There’s this new money making opportunity called NIL.
Let me think.
Do I want a check from the guy who owns a chain of bbq restaurants in okc, or a check from the guy who owns 22 car dealerships in southern Cali?

That is very narrow minding thinking. What about the guy that has 22 car dealerships throughout the entire state of Oklahoma?

Take Oregon for example. Eugene isn't that great of a town like LA but do you not think Oregon doesn't have NIL opportunities with Phil Knight and Nike? You guys literally think that these programs are relegated to their hometown. Why has NO ONE brought that up?

Oklahoma has a massive presence in Dallas for example and not just Oklahoma City or Norman.

 

[Volbound1700]

Wait, none of this has anything to do with NIL value. Just stop. This is not agreeing to disagree, this is you being wrong.

Actually it does because it shows what programs are making $$$ and where the $$$ is. Damn why can't people figure that out on here?

If you guys were so correct, the Pac12 Network profits would be through the roof.

 

[ELTEXAN]

That is very narrow minding thinking. What about the guy that has 22 car dealerships throughout the entire state of Oklahoma?

Take Oregon for example. Eugene isn't that great of a town like LA but do you not think Oregon doesn't have NIL opportunities with Phil Knight and Nike? You guys literally think that these programs are relegated to their hometown. Why has NO ONE brought that up?

Oklahoma has a massive presence in Dallas for example and not just Oklahoma City or Norman.

You bring up a complete outlier as your argument.
And then try to rope in Oklahoma into the conflation.
1. Local nil opportunities are not trivial.
2. LOS ÁNGELES >>>>>>>>>x100 OKC

 

[Wild Turkey]

He is going to die on this hill of stupidity. It’s kinda epic in a sad way.

 

[Bayou Tiger]

Why would anyone think there would be more opportunity to sell to 128,000 potential buyers (Norman, Ok) than a market with 19,000,000 potential buyers (Los Angeles, Ca.)?

If only there was a math formula that could determine which offered more opportunity to sale merchandise to.....

 

[trojanfan12]

I think that has somewhat changed with the Rams coming back. They gobbled up a lot of the football interest that USC got, particularly since they’ve been pretty good for the last few years (other than when they play the 49ers). The Chargers didn’t move the needle.

Yeah, the Rams took some of it. But even with them, if USC is winning...people will show up for games. If the teams are winning, people will go to both. I've attended a USC game in the afternoon and a Dodgers game that night. I've also gone to a USC game on Saturday and then a Lakers game on Sunday. A lot of people do that when the teams are good.

 

[Volbound1700]

Why would anyone think there would be more opportunity to sell to 128,000 potential buyers (Norman, Ok) than a market with 19,000,000 potential buyers (Los Angeles, Ca.)?

If only there was a math formula that could determine which offered more opportunity to sale merchandise to.....

Oklahoma has more than 128,000 buyers. How many times do I have to get that through your head? These programs are not limited to just the home town of the school. There are Oklahoma fans all over the state of Oklahoma, Texas, and Nation. Why can't anyone on this board acknowledge this damn point! I will admit I am wrong when people finally actually read my argument and respond coherently (some have).

 

[ELTEXAN]

Why would anyone think there would be more opportunity to sell to 128,000 potential buyers (Norman, Ok) than a market with 19,000,000 potential buyers (Los Angeles, Ca.)?

If only there was a math formula that could determine which offered more opportunity to sale merchandise to.....

I studied philosophy of quantum mechanics at a major university. I believe I have an answer for you… that particular theory of math is called subtraction.

 

[Volbound1700]

I studied philosophy of quantum mechanics at a major university. I believe I have an answer for you… that particular theory of math is called subtraction.

This would work if you add the Oklahoma fans not in Norman and you subtract all of the people in L.A. who could give to shits about College Football. Hell, Norman probably doesn't bring in even the full 128,000 for Oklahoma.

Are you guys even reading your posts? Do you really think Oklahoma is limited to 128,000 fans and that USC will get all 19 million people in Los Angeles? Really?

 

[trojanfan12]

Ephesians Prysock?? That can't be a real name....right??

I mean, we had an Amon-Ra St. Brown and if his Dad had his way, we'd have also had an Equanimeous St. Brown, but he was apparently a retard, so he had to go to ND.