More GA Drama, This Time Involving Jalen Carter

Illustrious Potentate said:
I knew there had to be more to that story than was being told.

But if his draft stock falls, someone is getting a steal
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Hopefully he falls to the eagles like Dean did. Also, hopefully Dean is as good as advertised next season.
 
Why would bears trade away a scrambling qb just to get another scrambling qb...trade down and take stroud or anderson
 
SU Nittany Tide said:
Hopefully he falls to the eagles like Dean did. Also, hopefully Dean is as good as advertised next season.
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I’d say I hope he falls to the Falcons, but even if he does, they’ll just draft some white linebacker out of Montana State instead. Hell, even late in the draft they passed over Jamaree Salyer for his lower rated college teammate that played a total of 0 snaps this past season
 
tabascojet said:
Why would bears trade away a scrambling qb just to get another scrambling qb...trade down and take stroud or anderson
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Im not sold on Stroud in the NFL.
 
I'm not 100% sold on Fields, but you HAVE to roll with him.

Not many teams have been in the No. 1 spot, with a young beast QB already on the roster. This affords them a mountain of leverage.

Theoretically, they SHOULD absolutely fucking KILL IT in this draft.
 
huskers1217 said:
you would love ESPN..

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Projected trade: Houston moves up one spot​

My pals Todd McShay and Matt Miller projected the Colts to move up to No. 1 to get a quarterback, but here's another trade Chicago should consider. This involves Houston moving up just one spot to get its quarterback of the future. It's risky for the Texans to stay at No. 2 -- what if another team makes a deal with the Bears and selects the passer they want? That's why they might be willing to give up a lot to move up from No. 2 to No. 1.

What could a trade look like? It would likely be similar to another one that involved Chicago. That was in 2017, when the Bears moved from No. 3 to No. 2 in a trade with the 49ers to select Mitch Trubisky. Chicago gave up pick Nos. 3, 67 and 111 along with its 2018 third-rounder. I don't think the Texans would have to give up their other first-round pick -- at No. 12 -- but they have an extra third-rounder in this draft that could be appealing.

From the Bears' perspective, they're going to get several offers for the top pick, but they have to weigh how far down the board they're willing to drop. Are they OK with going all the way to No. 7 (Raiders) or No. 9 (Panthers)? If they take an offer from Houston or Indianapolis, they're guaranteed to get one of the top two defenders in this class, defensive tackle Jalen Carter or edge rusher Will Anderson Jr. Stay tuned on that ...

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1. Houston Texans (via mock trade with CHI)​

Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

With new coach DeMeco Ryans taking over the team that drafted him in 2006, it's clear this roster needs a ton of work. The Texans own pick Nos. 2 and 12 in Round 1, along with some cap space to bring in free agents. They're going to be able to add some early contributors. And though Ryans is a defensive coach, he has to know the most important part of success in the NFL is getting a star quarterback. That's why he and general manager Nick Caserio have to get their passer of the future, and that's why this trade makes a lot of sense. Davis Mills isn't the guy, and this offense was among the league's worst in 2022.

It's a big week for Young, who will be under the microscope at the combine. There isn't much of a history of sub-200-pound quarterbacks having NFL success, and he could put that to the test. He was closer to 190 pounds at Alabama; how much will he weigh in Indianapolis later this week? My over/under is 195. If he's in that range, I feel good about him as the QB1.

On the field, Young doesn't have many flaws. The 2021 Heisman Trophy winner has outstanding pocket presence and is an amazing processor, always a step ahead of where to go with the football. If everything checks out at the combine, I think he's going to be the top player off the board, no matter the team.

Paris Johnson, Devon Witherspoon, Bryce Young and Lukas Van Ness ESPN
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Projected trade: Indy makes its move -- and Chicago moves down again​

How about another deal for the Bears? Remember, Chicago doesn't own its second-round pick, and this is not a team that is going to contend in 2023. Why not continue to pick up capital while moving down only three total spots? To do this deal -- moving from No. 4 to No. 2 -- the Colts are going to have to give up the No. 35 overall selection, along with a few more (they have an extra third-rounder) potentially in the 2024 draft as well. Trades for Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan over the past two offseasons went way wrong, so if their guy is still on the board at No. 2 they should pounce, no matter the cost.

The Bears, meanwhile, are going to have prime picks to build around quarterback Justin Fields -- we're talking a bevy of second-, third- and fourth-rounders -- and they can still get one of the top defenders. There's a lot of time to compile offers for the No. 1 pick, but doing these deals means they can add valuable draft capital and still get a great instant-impact player for next season.

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2. Indianapolis Colts (via mock trade with CHI)​

C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State

Over the past 25 years, the Colts have taken two quarterbacks in the first round: Peyton Manning, a Hall of Famer, and Andrew Luck, who was on a Hall of Fame track before he retired at age 29. Can they nail their quarterback pick again?

Stroud's accuracy and arm strength are underrated, and his touch to all levels of the field is the best in this class. In Indianapolis, he would have a No. 1 wideout (Michael Pittman Jr.) and a top-tier running back (Jonathan Taylor). I don't think the Colts are that far from contending in the AFC South. Stroud would give new coach Shane Steichen a jolt of energy to get this team back on track.

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3. Arizona Cardinals​

Will Anderson Jr., OLB, Alabama

No change for the Cardinals from my Mock Draft 1.0. Anderson, who had 27.5 sacks and 54 tackles for loss over the past two seasons, is an elite edge player who would help new coach Jonathan Gannon's defense on Day 1. The former Eagles defensive coordinator is known for his ability to scheme up pressure looks, and he would have a blast moving Anderson around the line of scrimmage. Anderson is a complete defender, the type of guy to build a defense around.

The Cardinals ranked 31st in points allowed per game last season (26.4), so Anderson isn't the only player this unit needs. If I were Arizona general manager Monti Ossenfort, I'd also bring back free agent tackle Zach Allen so Anderson could have some help next to him. Again, though, this is a great way to start for the new regime.

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4. Chicago Bears (via mock trade with IND)​

Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia

Like I wrote earlier, Chicago should be exceedingly happy in this scenario, trading down three spots and adding an elite defender and valuable picks. Carter is a fantastic player, a game-wrecker from the interior with a 310-pound frame. He's the top-ranked prospect on my board. In Chicago, he'd immediately upgrade a porous defense that ranked last in the league in sacks (20). What's not to like?

The other scenario the Bears could consider, of course, is trading Justin Fields and drafting a quarterback with the top pick. I just don't see general manager Ryan Poles doing that, even though there's some logic in starting over the rookie contract clock -- Poles & Co. will have to make a decision on Fields' fifth-year option after the 2023 season. I think Chicago is more likely to try to upgrade the playmakers around Fields this offseason, helping its young dual-threat signal-caller and putting him in a better position to succeed.

Note: The Athens-Clarke County Police Department on Wednesday secured arrest warrants for Carter stemming from his alleged involvement in a fatal crash involving a teammate, and he will be arrested for reckless driving and racing.
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No one is reading all that
 
jjc2009 said:
Then again, he might be indefinitely unavailable
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I doubt it. He didn’t crash the car that killed the staffer and the player. The staffer that was killed was driving the car and was over twice the legal limit.

He’ll get some kind of punishment for reckless driving and lying, but I doubt he serves any real time
 
7samurai13 said:
Yes but how much time is he going to do for two counts of vehicular manslaughter?
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So far, there aren't such charges. Doesn't mean they can't be raised later, but for now those charges don't exist.
 
Sounds like as of now he’s only facing misdemeanors

 
guy isn't going to drop.. He made a bad decision but he didn't run the woman off the road or anything. GA PD looked like they were covering for him.. AJC got the scoop.. There's a lot of time between now and the draft, he'll still be selected in the top 10 if not, top 5 in April
 
Thiefery said:
guy isn't going to drop.. He made a bad decision but he didn't run the woman off the road or anything. GA PD looked like they were covering for him.. AJC got the scoop.. There's a lot of time between now and the draft, he'll still be selected in the top 10 if not, top 5 in April
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This isn't like the La'el Collins "potentially a suspect in a murder" situation. Worst case for this one is a suspended license, so if he slips it won't be more than a spot or 2. Doubt he slips at all unless it is a need situation, like CHI slides back for someone wanting a QB.
 
Thiefery said:
guy isn't going to drop.. He made a bad decision but he didn't run the woman off the road or anything. GA PD looked like they were covering for him.. AJC got the scoop.. There's a lot of time between now and the draft, he'll still be selected in the top 10 if not, top 5 in April
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It will all depend on whether the charges get bumped up to vehicular homicide. There is case law that would indicate that the non-crash car in a racing situation can get the book thrown at them. This is sort of like the women shot by the Bama player and her 5 year old son. The worst thing that could happen would be to take the NFL away from Carter. Let him get drafted, and then let him pay some of those millions to the family of the other player killed. The drive, she blew a .197 ... she's toast.
 
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