More Michigan Cheating

Across The Field said:
But if he did nothing wrong, why is Harbaugh acting like he didn't even know this guy existed? Why the total social media eradication? Also if michigan "found a loophole", why was this guy buying tickets with his own money instead of using a university expense credit card? Also if what he did wasn't an NCAA violation, why can't michigan come out and admit what he did and admit they used his footage?
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Harbaugh isn't acting like he doesn't exist? What do you mean?

Also, Michigan (and Harbaugh) are extremely limited in what they can say here by NCAA rule. So it's a bit unfair because Michigan is being pounded on by certain media individuals and Michigan can't say anything in response. They very literally "can't come out and admit what they did". If they say anything about the investigation, good or bad, that would literally be a violation; even if it turns out they didn't commit a violation in the first place.

The guy who was suspended, why wouldn't you limit your social media? Dude would be getting blasted right now online if he didn't.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Only people flaming the fire are Ohio state fans. Weird. Most national media types have laughed this off already.

There’s nothing illegal about using recordings to scout teams.
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Lol its literally on the front page of ESPN and I'm at lunch and FS1 was talking about it. Also, a Georgia fan posted all kinds of pics and videos of this guy on the sideline talking to your coaches as plays were being called in
 
Across The Field said:
Maybe you ought to look at your boy Gattis. Now at Maryland, knew of michigan cheating. Makes a lot of sense.
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The entire thing started on a leak from the Ohio State message board (either reddit or 247, I can't remember now). Happened well before schools were notified, and well before this came out the day of. I posted it somewhere earlier on this thread. The post indicated they were connected with the department and that Michigan was being accused of some things. It's just too coincidental that it started on Ohio State boards, involves sign stealing and OSU's coach has accused like 75% of the teams that have beat him of sign stealing.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Lol its literally on the front page of ESPN and I'm at lunch and FS1 was talking about it. Also, a Georgia fan posted all kinds of pics and videos of this guy on the sideline talking to your coaches as plays were being called in
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I'm not sure what people think those posts prove? A Michigan analyst was on the sidelines during games, with legal sign stealing documentation you're allowed to have. Alert the FBI! No one is denying that he worked at UM, or that UM was sign stealing. What's the gatcha there?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm not sure what people think those posts prove? A Michigan analyst was on the sidelines during games, with legal sign stealing documentation you're allowed to have. Alert the FBI! No one is denying that he worked at UM, or that UM was sign stealing. What's the gatcha there?
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This has been explained to you multiple times already.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Harbaugh isn't acting like he doesn't exist? What do you mean?

Also, Michigan (and Harbaugh) are extremely limited in what they can say here by NCAA rule. So it's a bit unfair because Michigan is being pounded on by certain media individuals and Michigan can't say anything in response. They very literally "can't come out and admit what they did". If they say anything about the investigation, good or bad, that would literally be a violation; even if it turns out they didn't commit a violation in the first place.

The guy who was suspended, why wouldn't you limit your social media? Dude would be getting blasted right now online if he didn't.
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You said this guy was hired by michigan to do this very specific thing, yet Harbaugh denied knowing of anything like this happening, so yeah, that would seem like he doesn't even know this guy exists.

Also, both michigan and Harbaugh can say literally anything they want about something if there's no violation. What rule would they be breaking?

Stalions didn't limit his social media. He deleted it. He easily could have limited it but didn't.
 
Across The Field said:
You said this guy was hired by michigan to do this very specific thing, yet Harbaugh denied knowing of anything like this happening, so yeah, that would seem like he doesn't even know this guy exists.

Also, both michigan and Harbaugh can say literally anything they want about something if there's no violation. What rule would they be breaking?

Stalions didn't limit his social media. He deleted it. He easily could have limited it but didn't.
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He really wants us to believe that some low level nobody decided to do this on his own, with no help, and then the coaches just decided it would be a good idea to start taking serious advice from said low level nobody without questioning how he got his sudden great knowledge of opponents.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
The entire thing started on a leak from the Ohio State message board (either reddit or 247, I can't remember now). Happened well before schools were notified, and well before this came out the day of. I posted it somewhere earlier on this thread. The post indicated they were connected with the department and that Michigan was being accused of some things. It's just too coincidental that it started on Ohio State boards, involves sign stealing and OSU's coach has accused like 75% of the teams that have beat him of sign stealing.
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LMAO this entire thing started a while ago. News of an upcoming NCAA investigation being discussed on a message board now somehow means Day is behind it even though he's literally only ever made one comment ever about sign stealing, and that was 3 years ago? Only in your twisted head.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Again, it is not an NCAA violation to buy football tickets for someone else.
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I am trying to stay as neutral as possible here and not get hit by the shrapnel. But you are delusional if you believe some of the things you are typing. I am not even saying UM will ultimately be found guilty of anything - betting on the NCAA to find any type of violation is a fool's errand. You have that going for you. That said, the circumstantial evidence here is compelling. Your excuses are naive as hell.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
He really wants us to believe that some low level nobody decided to do this on his own, with no help, and then the coaches just decided it would be a good idea to start taking serious advice from said low level nobody without questioning how he got his sudden great knowledge of opponents.
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I will 100% guarantee you that if the NCAA says it was a violation he will defend Harbaugh up and down saying he knew nothing about it and never used any illegal material. If the NCAA says it wasn't an infraction he will paint Harbaugh as a genius who figured out the perfect way to skirt the rules and gain an advantage over his opponents.
 
Across The Field said:
LMAO this entire thing started a while ago. News of an upcoming NCAA investigation being discussed on a message board now somehow means Day is behind it even though he's literally only ever made one comment ever about sign stealing, and that was 3 years ago? Only in your twisted head.
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I love the logic that this only came about because "so and so are crybabies" like that should nullify the cheating

"Our cheating was fine until people decided to complain!" - Lol!
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I am trying to stay as neutral as possible here and not get hit by the shrapnel. But you are delusional if you believe some of the things you are typing. I am not even saying UM will ultimately be found guilty of anything - betting on the NCAA to find any type of violation is a fool's errand. You have that going for you. That said, the circumstantial evidence here is compelling. Your excuses are naive as hell.
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my take as well. I don't really care if they have the book thrown at them or not.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Like I said, the most that will come from this is the staffer might get fired. But the NCAA will almost certainly modify the rules in response to this.
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This is the first rational thing you have typed in a while. I think we will see radios in headsets very soon. It will be referred to as the "Harbaugh Rule."
 
Across The Field said:
I will 100% guarantee you that if the NCAA says it was a violation he will defend Harbaugh up and down saying he knew nothing about it and never used any illegal material. If the NCAA says it wasn't an infraction he will paint Harbaugh as a genius who figured out the perfect way to skirt the rules and gain an advantage over his opponents.
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There's just no way something like this was going on without the coaches knowing about it. You are in deep denial if you are going to try to push that narrative.
 
stakesarehigh said:
my take as well. I don't really care if they have the book thrown at them or not.
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We likely beat the brakes off of them with them knowing our signals ... I don't care other than my general disdain for cheaters.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
There's just no way something like this was going on without the coaches knowing about it. You are in deep denial if you are going to try to push that narrative.
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The videos of the staffer standing next to the D Coord, looking across the field then leaning in and saying something to him, and then him calling the play is rather compelling. At some point the DC, OC, or HC has to say, how the hell do you know this? Unless they already know how he knows this.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
He really wants us to believe that some low level nobody decided to do this on his own, with no help, and then the coaches just decided it would be a good idea to start taking serious advice from said low level nobody without questioning how he got his sudden great knowledge of opponents.
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You are dangerously close to exposing how we(Auburn) hired Harsin ...
 
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