More Michigan Cheating

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I don't think it's going to do anything. That said, the more I see the more I think this nut case would be someone who would operate on his own without others potentially knowing his nut case plans
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Stop ... your HC, OC, DC, and everyone else knew he was doing this. He was standing right next to them giving them intel. It was an operation in plain view. He may be stupid, but so is everyone else on your team for doing it and thinking they could get away with it, or even more stupid if they think we are dumb enough to buy their "we didn't know what was going on" explanation.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm starting to think every program cheats just like us, but they don't have nutjobs writing 600 page manifestos running the operation.
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Yeah, you are starting to understand how wrong you are and how this is so obviously cheating no matter what technicalities you think there are. But look at my previous post - this will not be something you can lay at the feet of some "crazy" person. This goes very deep in the program.
 
Aaron Torres said:
Little note: Was told by an airtight source tonight, at least one major sportsbook has been advised to take Michigan lines off the board for the time being.
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Aaron Torres said:
For those who still dont get it: This isn't a "NCAA rules are dumb" issue.

Its an "integrity of the entire sport" issue.
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm starting to think every program cheats just like us, but they don't have nutjobs writing 600 page manifestos running the operation.
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So the coaches knew he was obsessed and had some grand plan to cheat so they though the best idea was to put him on staff? Who is the problem?
 
Marc Givler said:
Separate sources also indicated that upon viewing the photos that @TomOrr4 posted last night on Twitter, the belief inside the Ohio State program is that the laminated signal sheet in question was indeed OSU's signals.
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WhosYourDawggy said:
You think Harbaugh is so dumb that he isn't involved in the decision to have a guy stand next to his coordinators with a stack of laminated cards that have the other team's signals and not, at some point, say who the fuck is this guy, and where did he get that info? You really want us to believe that? That this guy went rogue and no one wondered why all the sudden we have a dozen players jumping up and down making some signal to your team based on the other team's signals? You want us to believe that? You know that they have to practice all that, right? So during practice, no one in charge said, what the hell is that group over there doing jumping up and down and making signs to our teams? Now who's naive?
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The game they posted video of -- Ohio State already said they had all new signs. And use common sense -- you think dozens of players jumping up and down could even hear a discussion between the coaches standing next to each other over the crowd noise?!?! Or are you insinuating that THE ENTIRE TEAM knew all the signals and they all called it out at the same time?!?!

One -- there isn't a dozen players jumping up and down. The players are pointing up.

Two -- What that means is nothing more than a guess on my part, but I'd assume it is either a defensive play call or they believe it will be a pass. As I said -- that is nothing more than an assumption on my part, just like the assumptions everyone is making from the clip.

Again -- this stuff is going on all the time on the sidelines the entire game. The play calls are coming in at the last second on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. On the clip you are talking about -- you literally see OSU come to the line, then look to the sideline for the play call. Guess what the defense will do once the offense changes formations?!?! They send a play call in from the sideline too.

I swear -- some of the comments from people on this site makes me wonder if they have ever seen a football field before other than on TV. If you go to a game anytime soon -- even a high school game -- watch the sidelines. You will see much of the same.
 
FYI ... these types of tickets, at that level, are really expensive. I mean multiple thousands of dollars each. He makes $50K or less per year.

 
BusSport said:
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That's pretty awesome.

Not only did they steal signals, they also had someone photographed doing the signals, then made a chart and then laminated and disbursed it!

Hell, there isn't a person on the team, staff or in the admin office that didn't know this was going on and has deniability.

I now want the death penalty for the football team, basketball, women's soccer and field hockey.
 
Wild Turkey said:
That's pretty awesome.

Not only did they steal signals, they also had someone photographed doing the signals, then made a chart and then laminated and disbursed it!

Hell, there isn't a person on the team, staff or in the admin office that didn't know this was going on and has deniability.

I now want the death penalty for the football team, basketball, women's soccer and field hockey.
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Exactly, this is way too coordinated for it to be just some guy acting on his own. They really want us to believe that he just handed the coaches this stuff and they took it and used it without asking any questions. Lol.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Exactly, this is way too coordinated for it to be just some guy acting on his own. They really want us to believe that he just handed the coaches this stuff and they took it and used it without asking any questions. Lol.
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I think we need to find out who the person is in the photo imitating the signals and they should be questioned. I honestly didn't give a shit about this a couple of days ago but damn if I didn't reeled in now.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Every other program doesn't cheat like you did. You Michigan guys have to stop saying that "everyone does this." No, that is why everyone is talking about this. No one does this.
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OF COURSE every program tries to steal signs. You literally have head coaches coming out and saying exactly that.

Saying everyone is talking about this now because no one does this, would be like Alabama getting caught paying a player before NIL. EVERYONE would be talking about it, even the schools who do the exact same thing. Or are you going to say, prior to NIL, no players received money from schools now?

This is being talked about because it is a high profile program and it is the current scandal. It has nothing to do with it being unique. It happens at every level, in many different sports. Same thing happens in baseball too (See Houston Astros)
 
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