More Michigan Cheating

[ralphiewvu]

Go back to your first comment.

My first comment today was calling you out for being the mental gymnastics king you are.

How about you just say what I’m claiming that isn’t in the report….

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

My first comment today was calling you out for being the mental gymnastics king you are.

How about you just say what I’m claiming that isn’t in the report….

Nope. It was you inventing allegations that didn’t exist.

Yeah he scouted illegally 58 times, you fired a coach for telling a recruit to lie about it, the new HC deletes 52 texts to this guy the day the story comes out and neither he (Stalions) nor the old head coach cooperate but Stalions is totally a lone wolf.

we didn’t fire a coach for telling recruits to lie about it. Moore and other coaches cooperated with ncaa staff. Stallions in the article is listed as a lone wolf; sans interns and a single university employee who the article admits didn’t know they were in the wrong.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Nope. It was you inventing allegations that didn’t exist.


we didn’t fire a coach for telling recruits to lie about it. Moore and other coaches cooperated with ncaa staff. Stallions in the article is listed as a lone wolf; sans interns and a single university employee who the article admits didn’t know they were in the wrong.

Is this a joke? The article alleges this. And I’m going to trust an investigation from an unbiased source rather than a blowhard biased fan on a forum.

Stalions is not listed in the article as the lone wolf. I have already showed you this and here you go lying again. Let’s try this again:



It truly is exhausting watching you twist and turn to protect Michigan at every angle.

 

[Shanemansj13]

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We all know it but some choose to deny, deny, deny

 

[osubuckeye89]

It’s going to be the Lack of cooperation and attempted coverup that gets Michigan. The NCAA hates that more than the crime.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Is this a joke? The article alleges this. And I’m going to trust an investigation from an unbiased source rather than a blowhard biased fan on a forum.

Stalions is not listed in the article as the lone wolf. I have already showed you this and here you go lying again. Let’s try this again:

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It truly is exhausting watching you twist and turn to protect Michigan at every angle.

You just quoted the portion that proves your initial statement wrong. Point to the word “recruits” in there. You’re claiming I’m twisting but you literally just tried to gaslight me into believing that’s what you said from the start. It isn’t.

As I said. Patrige told a player to not cooperate with the ncaa and was fired on the spot. There was no connection ever found to the stallions scheme. The end.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Me when the ncaa spent 8 months investigating and only came up with the information we had in October 2023.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

It’s going to be the Lack of cooperation and attempted coverup that gets Michigan. The NCAA hates that more than the crime.

I look forward to their meaningless show causes against all the coaches who left in February lol.

 

[ralphiewvu]

You just quoted the portion that proves your initial statement wrong. Point to the word “recruits” in there. You’re claiming I’m twisting but you literally just tried to gaslight me into believing that’s what you said from the start. It isn’t.

As I said. Patrige told a player to not cooperate with the ncaa and was fired on the spot. There was no connection ever found to the stallions scheme. The end.

Are you really this stupid? The part I quoted shows Partridge asked a player to lie to the ncaa allegedly TO PROTECT THE COACHING STAFF from the Stalion scheme probe.

In what way does that prove my statement wrong Maize?

You are such a lying little weasel. You twist and turn because your homerism knows no bounds.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Are you really this stupid? The part I quoted shows Partridge asked a player to lie to the ncaa allegedly TO PROTECT THE COACHING STAFF from the Stalion scheme probe.

In what way does that prove my statement wrong Maize?

You are such a lying little weasel. You twist and turn because your homerism knows no bounds.

are you this stupid? Recruit and player are different words. Do you understand that?

you fired a coach for telling a recruit to lie about it

This is your quote. And this is false.

 

[ralphiewvu]

are you this stupid? Recruit and player are different words. Do you understand that?

This is your quote. And this is false.

That's what you're going with? That?

You quite literally tried to say Stalion was a lone wolf and this article said anyone on the coaching staff wasn't aware. My quote directly disproves this. You know this yet continue to lie. Incredible

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

That's what you're going with? That?

You quite literally tried to say Stalion was a lone wolf and this article said anyone on the coaching staff wasn't aware. My quote directly disproves this. You know this yet continue to lie. Incredible

I've been pointing out the distinction from the very first reply....

And lol, no it doesn't prove that partridge had any knowledge of the scheme. It proves that he told a player not to cooperate with the NCAA investigation when the NCAA first came to town to do 1 on 1 player interviews. He got fired on the spot. We knew this last fall. Here's the article Ex-Michigan football coach Chris Partridge 'failed' to uphold contract, per school

"As we discussed today, the University has received evidence that you have failed to abide by the University directive not to discuss an ongoing NCAA investigation with anyone associated with the Michigan Football Program or others and as a result has determined that you have failed to satisfactorily perform your duties," the letter read. "As a result, your employment as a Michigan Football Coach is hereby terminated effective immediately and you will not be eligible for rehire at the University of Michigan."

The NCAA, according to this ESPN release, claims that there is no member of the football staff with knowledge of Stallions operations. They found interns and a single school employee had knowledge of it.

Real question I don't think you'll honestly answer -- you think Partridge had knowledge, was listed in the report that way and the headlines around the country aren't "Michigan coach involved in Stallions scheme!"?

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Also -- the NCAA spent 8 months digging for something and found nothing. The report details almost exactly what we knew last october. What it doesn't mention is say is what level of violation those in person scouting sessions were. As I said last fall, it's very possible those are all level 2 violations; which is why the ESPN article talks about level 1 violations in relation to "pattern of noncompliance within the football program" and not "level 1 violations for in person scouting".....

 

[Thiefery]

Michigan hasn’t received a notice yet. This was theoretically a draft. Once they do they have 90 days to respond. This is something that won’t be settled until 2026.

i was joking about the whole fire, then portal opening on game week vs my Horns lol

 

[ralphiewvu]

I've been pointing out the distinction from the very first reply....

You haven’t been pointing this distinction out. And ether way it’s semantics of a word that does not change what I’ve been arguing. You literally used a word.

And lol, no it doesn't prove that partridge had any knowledge of the scheme. It proves that he told a player not to cooperate with the NCAA investigation when the NCAA first came to town to do 1 on 1 player interviews. He got fired on the spot. We knew this last fall. Here's the article Ex-Michigan football coach Chris Partridge 'failed' to uphold contract, per school

Why exactly do you think he told players to not talk t9 the NCAA? Honestly why would he do this if he didn’t know?

The NCAA, according to this ESPN release, claims that there is no member of the football staff with knowledge of Stallions operations. They found interns and a single school employee had knowledge of it.

They don’t make this claim at all. They allege Partridge told a player to lie to the ncaa to protect the coaching staff.
Again here ya go:

Real question I don't think you'll honestly answer -- you think Partridge had knowledge, was listed in the report that way and the headlines around the country aren't "Michigan coach involved in Stallions scheme!"?

Answer this Maize, why is an article from espn alleging the coach asked player(s) to lie to the ncaa to protect the coaching staff on the Stalions probe if NO ONE knew?

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

You haven’t been pointing this distinction out. And ether way it’s semantics of a word that does not change what I’ve been arguing. You literally used a word.

Why exactly do you think he told players to not talk t9 the NCAA? Honestly why would he do this if he didn’t know?

They don’t make this claim at all. They allege Partridge told a player to lie to the ncaa to protect the coaching staff.
Again here ya go:
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Answer this Maize, why is an article from espn alleging the coach asked player(s) to lie to the ncaa to protect the coaching staff on the Stalions probe if NO ONE knew?

I feel like I'm being punked. This is one of my first replies to you yesterday....


Partridge told a single player to say nothing to the NCAA -- to be uncooperative. Essentially plead the 5th. And he was fired for it. "to protect the coaching staff" is just assumed semantics. Like, of course that would be the reason? They just got out of a two year long investigation over a cheeseburger. So there was already built up distrust with the NCAA, guilty or innocent I would assume the reason he said it was more in a "fuck the NCAA" kind of way than "hide this important information". Why would a player know about Stallion's sign stealing scheme? And why didn't the NCAA find out about it?

I'll repeat, there is no found connection to Stallions and the NCAA only found interns and a university staff member with knowledge of it. That's it.

 

[ralphiewvu]

I feel like I'm being punked. This is one of my first replies to you yesterday....
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It’s one word maize. Change the word “recruit” to the word “player” and it still has the same meaning. You are using one word to get some kind of gotcha moment when it doesn’t change anything.

Partridge told a single player to say nothing to the NCAA -- to be uncooperative. Essentially plead the 5th. And he was fired for it. "to protect the coaching staff" is just assumed semantics. Like, of course that would be the reason? They just got out of a two year long investigation over a cheeseburger. So there was already built up distrust with the NCAA, guilty or innocent I would assume the reason he said it was more in a "fuck the NCAA" kind of way than "hide this important information". Why would a player know about Stallion's sign stealing scheme? And why didn't the NCAA find out about it?

I'll repeat, there is no found connection to Stallions and the NCAA only found interns and a university staff member with knowledge of it. That's it.

So nevermind you continue to lie about this article stating no coaches knew or that Stalion was a lone wolf. You want the whole world to know no coaches knew about this all the while a coach literally got fired for telling a PLAYER to not talk to the ncaa, this article alleging it was to protect the coaching staff, all the while several interns and a full time employee knew. I think you are the one trying to punk Maize.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

It’s one word maize. Change the word “recruit” to the word “player” and it still has the same meaning. You are using one word to get some kind of gotcha moment when it doesn’t change anything.

So nevermind you continue to lie about this article stating no coaches knew or that Stalion was a lone wolf. You want the whole world to know no coaches knew about this all the while a coach literally got fired for telling a PLAYER to not talk to the ncaa, this article alleging it was to protect the coaching staff, all the while several interns and a full time employee knew. I think you are the one trying to punk Maize.

Well no. Indicating recruits knew about it would mean this was massively more wide-spread and being actively advertised by the coaching staff recruiting them.

It pretty clearly indicates who they have evidence connecting to Stallions. Unless you think "at least" means "oh and we forgot to mention the COACHING STAFF" then this is all the found linking Stallions to the school.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Well no. Indicating recruits knew about it would mean this was massively more wide-spread and being actively advertised by the coaching staff recruiting them.

In this argument the words are interchangeable. The argument you are making is the coaches didn’t know. Whether Partridge is telling a player or recruit not to talk to protect the coaching staff, the coaching staff knows. The word differs none here.

It pretty clearly indicates who they have evidence connecting to Stallions. Unless you think "at least" means "oh and we forgot to mention the COACHING STAFF" then this is all the found linking Stallions to the school.
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Dude literally got fired for telling a player to be uncooperative to the NCAA (your words), this article alleging to protect the coaching staff and Maize continues to be like “tHe ArTiCLe sTaTeS tHe CoAcHeS dIdNt kNoW

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

In this argument the words are interchangeable. The argument you are making is the coaches didn’t know. Whether Partridge is telling a player or recruit not to talk to protect the coaching staff, the coaching staff knows. The word differs none here.

Dude literally got fired for telling a player to be uncooperative to the NCAA (your words), this article alleging to protect the coaching staff and Maize continues to be like “tHe ArTiCLe sTaTeS tHe CoAcHeS dIdNt kNoW

Yes he did get fired for that. Notice, he didn't get fired for being part of or connected to the scheme. Also notice, how he's not implicated in actually knowing or participating in the scheme via the same article you keep referencing. You seem to want to refuse to ignore the important bit I keep quoting because it doesn't align with what you want to be true.

"ThE CoaCHES KnEW!" Well, they were not implicated, there's no evidence and the NCAA didn't say that "BUT ThEy KnEW!"

Pretty simply concept.