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Could be wrong, but don't think he's agreeing with you, dimwit.
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I don't think you can understand English if you think that was what I thought with that reply....add that to the list of things you're wrong about
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lol. Does Georgia teach people about causation vs correlation?
You know what else happened at that exact moment? Michigan gutted the ENTIRE coaching staff because Harbaugh was going to get fired. Nah, that couldn't have done anything....hire two straight defensive coordinators handed to us from John Harbaugh that are now on NFL teams...and like 20 staff members that are in those ranks as well.
Does this belong to Jim Harbaugh or Connor Stalions or MAIZEandBLUE09?
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OMG if the Harbaugh cheeseburger story wasn't already bullshit, it somehow got even more bullshitty.
Harbaugh went to pick up takeout with his daughter, happened to run into a prospect and his father, included their meal on his take out receipt and when Harbaugh told the NCAA he didn't remember that specific encounter, the NCAA wanted him to admit he lied. He wouldn't admit he lied. This is the "insubordination" the NCAA suspended and then slapped him with a show cause for.
The amount of petty bullshit the article says NCAA pulls after that is insane. I know people hate Harbaugh, but I can't imagine anyone reading that and thinking this was a totally reasonable response to what actually occurred. The summery of the violation is an incidental run-in of a recruit where their bill was put on Harbaugh's tab, and Harbaugh sticking with the story that he doesn't remember (which is entirely possible when talking about hundreds of recruits and recruiting visits per year).
Inside Jim Harbaugh's years-long fight with the NCAA – and with Michigan
In this excerpt of "The Price: What It Takes to Win in College Football's Era of Chaos," at Jim Harbaugh's fighting with the NCAA and with Michigan.
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Harbaugh went to pick up takeout with his daughter, happened to run into a prospect and his father, included their meal on his take out receipt and when Harbaugh told the NCAA he didn't remember that specific encounter, the NCAA wanted him to admit he lied. He wouldn't admit he lied. This is the "insubordination" the NCAA suspended and then slapped him with a show cause for.
The amount of petty bullshit the article says NCAA pulls after that is insane. I know people hate Harbaugh, but I can't imagine anyone reading that and thinking this was a totally reasonable response to what actually occurred. The summery of the violation is an incidental run-in of a recruit where their bill was put on Harbaugh's tab, and Harbaugh sticking with the story that he doesn't remember (which is entirely possible when talking about hundreds of recruits and recruiting visits per year).
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Well that never happened in reality. Like I said, strange hypothetical but ok.
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So for 6 years, Harbaugh was at michigan and couldn't figure it out with all the coaches he hired. Then magically, after bringing in all new coaches onto a dogshit team, they suddenly turn it around completely? And you're sitting here talking about correlation vs causation?
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If I told you in 2014 that a coach was going to take over the program (one that just had a 5 win season) and they were giong to be there for 10 seasons before going to the NFL, you would naturally expect the end of their tenure was more successful than the start.
But even so, this is also a disingenuous argument from the fact that Michigan wasn't that far off. Harbaugh had three 10 win seasons in his first 4 and almost won the conference in 2016 and 2018; the difference was not beating Ohio State.
So it wasn't "magically". Michigan had been close most years, fired a bunch of staff, was gifted elite staff by John Harbaugh, had a few really good recruiting classes and those classes stuck around for 3-4 years culminating in 2023.
Michigan had 24 draft picks from 2015-2019. Michigan had 45 draft picks from 2020-2024. Spot the difference.
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Well for starters, no, you weren't close for years. Oddly enough, you were better under Harbaugh using Hoke's players earlier than you were in the late 2010s with his players. You had one top 10 win under Harbaugh before 2021, and that was against Wisconsin in 2016 using, yep, mostly Hoke's players.
2020 happened and you guys hit rock bottom, backing out of the OSU game to save Harbaugh's job. Then magically, you win the Big Ten for 3 straight years. I can't think of a program with the same HC and players that instantaneously had that level of turnaround ever in CFP history. Then again, I can't think of a program that initiated that level of a cheating scandal in college football history either.
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I love how they act like the cupboard was completely bare when Harbaugh got there. Hoke was a good recruiter he just couldn't actually coach for shit. There was plenty of talent there. They act like Harbaugh took over some team that was buried with MAC level players though.
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Yup. The three recruiting classes before Harbaugh's first season coaching were ranked 4th, 6th, and 20th. He had more than enough talent to compete, he just isn't a very good coach.
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TLDR meanwhile, you cannot say Jim Harbaugh eating his boogers was bullshit.OMG if the Harbaugh cheeseburger story wasn't already bullshit, it somehow got even more bullshitty.
Inside Jim Harbaugh's years-long fight with the NCAA – and with Michigan
In this excerpt of "The Price: What It Takes to Win in College Football's Era of Chaos," at Jim Harbaugh's fighting with the NCAA and with Michigan.www.freep.com
Harbaugh went to pick up takeout with his daughter, happened to run into a prospect and his father, included their meal on his take out receipt and when Harbaugh told the NCAA he didn't remember that specific encounter, the NCAA wanted him to admit he lied. He wouldn't admit he lied. This is the "insubordination" the NCAA suspended and then slapped him with a show cause for.
The amount of petty bullshit the article says NCAA pulls after that is insane. I know people hate Harbaugh, but I can't imagine anyone reading that and thinking this was a totally reasonable response to what actually occurred. The summery of the violation is an incidental run-in of a recruit where their bill was put on Harbaugh's tab, and Harbaugh sticking with the story that he doesn't remember (which is entirely possible when talking about hundreds of recruits and recruiting visits per year).
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He did eat boogers; needed some electrolytes
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And probably why he didn’t buy himself a cheeseburger.
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Is this the same "dog shit team" that just had 20 players go to the NFL, with I think 15 of them drafted? The same "dog shit team" that had 10 guys drafted in 2020, 8 more drafted in 2021, 3 of the top 45 picks in 2022 were from the "dog shit team", 2023 had 9 more drafted, then 15 drafted in 2024.
Michigan cannot and never will buy players, i mean, recruit, like Ohio A&M, but they sure as hell develop them much better than Ohio A&M. I think it is hilarious Ohio spent $22 million dollars on their roster this year -- it will be even more humorous when they don't win the title again and have to do it all over again.
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Uhhh -- no one said Michigan didn't have talent. Michigan didn't have a Quarterback. That is what was bare -- the QB room. Which is why we lived on grad transfers for so long until JJ McCarthy came along. What happened when UM finally had a QB? I will give you a hint, you haven't beaten Michigan since 2019.
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Yep because something a former player does after he's long gone from the University is exactly the same thing as Michigan's cheating. The false equivalencies are hilarious.
Look at Frank Clark is you want a comparison that actually makes sense here between Ohio State and Michigan
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