New SEC Alignment

[Wild Turkey]

You missed El Texan's post then. Go look at it again. That was my point. You jumped into a thread without understanding the background of my post that you were challenging. .

El Texan is an idiot. At one point he was proposing a pod of Texas, Mizzou, Arkansas and Kentucky. When I pointed out how ridiculous that was he said Texas plays a tougher OOC schedule.

You can’t even work with that kind of logic.

 

[ELTEXAN]

Because you said they were different ... I was clarifying your confusing and wrong post. Weird.

You even through in a QED when your equation was wrong. Don't worry, math guy here, I'll correct you where you are wrong.

I would also point out that I doubt everyone here understands the difference between 4x4 pods, and permanent rival pods. I posted the article that lays it out in detail, but not everyone here gives a shit about it.

They ARE different. And you took the time to conflate and then outright state they were different. This is the second time I’ve pointed it out to you. Weird.

 

[ELTEXAN]

El Texan is an idiot. At one point he was proposing a pod of Texas, Mizzou, Arkansas and Kentucky. When I pointed out how ridiculous that was he said Texas plays a tougher OOC schedule.

You can’t even work with that kind of logic.

I never put Texas in a pod with Kentucky. You’re lying.
my pod AND my three perm rival scheme preference is: TEXAS TAMU ARKY OU. IVE STATED RHAT A MILLION TIMES. DONT COME HERE AND JUST LIE, dunce

 

[Wild Turkey]

Yeah, that's a no go ... Auburn gets UGA, UF and Bama ... I am sure they won't have any objections to that.

Oklahoma gets Texas, Arky and Mizzou, while UT gets OU and TAMU.

Honest giddy up we’ve played that schedule for years and it just makes us better. It won’t happen and the loudest complainers will be the Bammers who insisted on Vandy being a permanent East rival on the first expansion.

Auburn, Georgia, LSU and Florida have always stepped up and not shied away on conference scheduling.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I never put Texas in a pod with Kentucky. You’re lying.
my pod AND my three perm rival scheme preference is: TEXAS TAMU ARKY OU. IVE STATED RHAT A MILLION TIMES. DONT COME HERE AND JUST LIE, dunce

You want Ky bad.

 

[ELTEXAN]

How about this
9 conference games
3 permanent rivals and the remaining 12 teams go into two pools of six and rotate every year.

Alabama - Tennessee, Auburn, LSU
Arkansas - Texas, Oklahoma, Tenn
Auburn - Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Florida - Georgia, LSU, Auburn
Georgia - Auburn, Florida SC
Kentucky - Ole Miss, Vandy, MSU
LSU - Alabama, Florida MSU
Miss St - Ole Miss, LSU, Kentucky
Missouri - aTm, SC, Oklahoma
Oklahoma - Ark, Texas, Missouri
Ole Miss- MSU, Kentucky, aTm
Tennessee - Alabama, Vandy, Ark
Texas - Ark, Oklahoma, aTm
Texas A&m - Texas, Missouri, Ole Miss
South Car - Missouri, Vandy, Georgia
Vandy - Tenn, SC, Kentucky

Obviously this is just a quick shoot from the hip but you get the general idea

Don’t see the need to add the division component this hints at.
just have three permanent rivals (henceforth: 3PERM), and just place the top two conference records in the CCG.

 

[ELTEXAN]

You want Ky bad.

Well, are you buying me drinks first?

 

[Wild Turkey]

Well, are you buying me drinks first?

Negative Ghost Rider

 

[7samurai13]

Don’t see the need to add the division component this hints at.
just have three permanent rivals (henceforth: 3PERM), and just place the top two conference records in the CCG.

It’s not divisions. It just ensures that you play every team every other year and gives every player a chance to see every stadium. You give the SEC office a chance to play favorites, they will.

 

[ELTEXAN]

It’s not divisions. It just ensures that you play every team every other year and gives every player a chance to see every stadium. You give the SEC office a chance to play favorites, they will.

You don’t need your scheme for that. Just 3PERM and rotate the rest.

 

[7samurai13]

You don’t need your scheme for that. Just 3PERM and rotate the rest.

Again, “rotating the rest” is how the SEC kept making sure that Bama didn’t play Georgia and Florida for a decade.

 

[ELTEXAN]

Again, “rotating the rest” is how the SEC kept making sure that Bama didn’t play Georgia and Florida for a decade.

I know you have ptsd over that. But we are talking hypothetical scenarios here.
let’s try to come up with something better than 3PERM and rotate the rest evenly.

 

[Volbound1700]

Again, “rotating the rest” is how the SEC kept making sure that Bama didn’t play Georgia and Florida for a decade.

The problem is that there was not a historical rivalry between Alabama and Florida or Georgia based off SEC history. If you take SEC history from 1933-Present, Florida wasn't that good until Spurrier.

I agree that people need to rethink past SEC rivalries and Sankey brought that out as well. The Third Saturday in October was a great rivalry because Alabama and Tennessee used to be the top 2 programs in the SEC. Tennessee's fall has really screwed up the SEC rivalries a lot. Tennessee isn't the game it once was for Alabama and really hasn't been in the Saban era while Florida and Georgia have become ELITE programs (Georgia kind of always was a decent program but they were not on the level, historically, of Tennessee).

So the past SEC rivalries have basically not accounted for the change in pecking order of the SEC. Florida or Georgia probably should replace Tennessee as Alabama's third Saturday in October game because both passed up Tennessee over 2 decades ago.

 

[Thiefery]

I agree that people need to rethink past SEC rivalries and Sankey brought that out as well.

You can't erase our HISTORY!!!!!!

 

[TigerBait1971]

LSU selects Vanderbilt, Missouri and Kentucky as permanent rivals.

 

[ELTEXAN]

All is moot. We’ll be in an ncaa-less super-league very soon.

 

[Thiefery]

All is moot. We’ll be in an ncaa-less super-league very soon.

 

[ELTEXAN]

People (i.e. Auburn) would whine about difficulty of schedule. The pods are fairly balanced.

Tell me more about how difficult Florida is so that it messes up the 3PERM format. Lmao.

 

[Volbound1700]

Tell me more about how difficult Florida is so that it messes up the 3PERM format. Lmao.

I be trolling...

They are probably still more difficult than Texas. (Granted, this is historical and not situation. Heck, Tennessee would likely still qualify as a difficult opponent despite not doing much in 15 years - We did have 2015 and 2016 as decent years).

 

[Volbound1700]

Tell me more about how difficult Florida is so that it messes up the 3PERM format. Lmao.

From a difficulty perspective, History is probably a bigger factor (as well as current program situation). Think of it like how the NCAA Football games used to rank programs with the stars and the factors they used. That is a great sample.

So from the NEW SEC perspective, these teams would be considered tough:

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas

Mid-Tier
Arkansas
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Texas A&M

Bottom\Low-Tier

Kentucky
Missouri
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt


There isn't a fine science to all of this as teams like Arkansas and Kentucky are up right now while Auburn, LSU, and Tennessee are down. However, this is the way they would likely see things from a scheduling balance perspective.