OC Srth Littrell Fired

Red_Alert said:
I posted the other day that the contract extension stuff every year is bullshit.

Be a consistent top 10 team and proven elite coach, ok I get it. You don't want another university coming in and stealing that guy.

However, the school is always on the hook for the original contract regardless of coaching performance.

Let's just use 5 years as a basic initial contract. Everybody says it takes a new HC a few years to get his system installed, his players recruited, assistant coaches adjusted, etc.
Great.... Give him that time, but the clock is ticking. If he doesn't get things turned around after the 4th year then fire him and you only owe him for the 5th year.
Frost walked in here on a 5 year deal and walked out with Nebraska still owing him 5 more years on top of the 5 years they'd already paid him. Without those extensions they wouldn't have owed him a fucking dime. Nobody was gonna come in a steal Frost. Nobody was gonna come in and steal Mike Riley. Nobody was gonna come in and steal Bo Pelini. However, every one of them walked out of here as if not one day ticked off their original contract.

Now contracts are 7 or 8 years.

They say the extensions are the university showing confidence in the coach so he can recruit and tell players/parents "Hey, he's in good hands. They just extended my contract so I'm gonna be his coach for the next 4 or 5 years".

That's one heck of a game these coaches have, and meaningless when the university can just fire said coach the next season and pay him bigly anyway for the lie he told those players/parents in their living rooms.
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It sure seems like there are a large number of alumni willing to fork over cash for contract errors.
 
Deep Creek said:
It sure seems like there are a large number of alumni willing to fork over cash for contract errors.
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True that.

If the school were actually on the hook for all that money there would likely be less of it going on.

Midway through year two, I'm not even close to being in the "Fire Rhule" mindset. However, His year two is beginning to look like the year two regular season finishes at Temple (2-4) and Baylor (2-4).
It took year three for them to make bigger jumps.

I wouldn't be giving him any contract extensions either.
 
outofyourmind said:
Pay your Head Coach $1 million dollars per win. No Contract.

See if they get good or not.
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No contract? So when they win 11 games in the first season and leaves, you are SOL?
 
Deep Creek said:
It sure seems like there are a large number of alumni willing to fork over cash for contract errors.
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As opposed to constantly be trying to replace a coach and losing all the players he brought in?
 
Red_Alert said:
True that.

If the school were actually on the hook for all that money there would likely be less of it going on.

Midway through year two, I'm not even close to being in the "Fire Rhule" mindset. However, His year two is beginning to look like the year two regular season finishes at Temple (2-4) and Baylor (2-4).
It took year three for them to make bigger jumps.

I wouldn't be giving him any contract extensions either.
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So if another school came sniffing around this offseason, just before you expect his system to start working and show results, you wouldn't give an extension to Rhule? Even though everything seems to be tracking as you expected?
 
fordman84 said:
So if another school came sniffing around this offseason, just before you expect his system to start working and show results, you wouldn't give an extension to Rhule? Even though everything seems to be tracking as you expected?
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LOL. I can sleep at night knowing that's not gonna happen.

Who says I "expect his system to start working" anyway?

I simply said year three was when it happened at Temple and Baylor. I doubt I'd be on a "Fire Rhule" bandwagon even if they don't make a jump in year three.

After year 4 is an entirely different story. The original contract was for 8 years tho, so he'd still walk out of here being owed 4 more years.
 
Red_Alert said:
LOL. I can sleep at night knowing that's not gonna happen.
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probably fair
Red_Alert said:
Who says I "expect his system to start working" anyway?
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Your comments allude to being that you didn't expect him to win right away and you see the progression based on his previous jobs.
Red_Alert said:
I simply said year three was when it happened at Temple and Baylor. I doubt I'd be on a "Fire Rhule" bandwagon even if they don't make a jump in year three.

After year 4 is an entirely different story. The original contract was for 8 years tho, so he'd still walk out of here being owed 4 more years.
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Cool, but I didn't ask about that and never mentioned anything close to "fire rhule". I said that if someone came sniffing around and could undo the last two years of Rhules work you wouldn't be on board with an extension.
 
fordman84 said:
As opposed to constantly be trying to replace a coach and losing all the players he brought in?
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fordman84 said:
probably fair

Your comments allude to being that you didn't expect him to win right away and you see the progression based on his previous jobs.

Cool, but I didn't ask about that and never mentioned anything close to "fire rhule". I said that if someone came sniffing around and could undo the last two years of Rhules work you wouldn't be on board with an extension.
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Hell no. Not to the original 8 years.

He looks to already be behind his year two jumps at Temple and Baylor.

Year one Temple: 2-10
Year two Temple: 6-6
i.e. 4 more regular season wins in year two.

Year one Baylor: 1-11
Year two Baylor: 6-6
i.e. 5 more regular season wins in year two.

He was 5-7 at Nebraska in year one.
He's 5-2 so far in year two.
He'll need 4 or 5 more wins to match his year two progresses at Temple and Baylor.

With @ Ohio St, UCLA, @ USC, Wisconsin, and @ Iowa remaining it's difficult to see 4 or 5 more wins this season.

It's difficult to see two more wins.
 
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Red_Alert said:
Hell no. Not to the original 8 years.

He looks to already be behind his year two jumps at Temple and Baylor.

Year one Temple: 2-10
Year two Temple: 6-6
i.e. 4 more regular season wins in year two.

Year one Baylor: 1-11
Year two Baylor: 6-6
i.e. 5 more regular season wins in year two.

He was 5-7 at Nebraska in year one.
He's 5-2 so far in year two.
He'd need 4 or 5 more wins to match his year two progresses at Temple and Baylor.

With @ Ohio St, UCLA, @ USC, Wisconsin, and @ Iowa remaining it's difficult to see 4 or 5 more wins this season.
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It's almost as if it is easier to increase win totals from 1-5 than it is from 5-9 in a 12 game schedule.
 
fordman84 said:
It's almost as if it is easier to increase win totals from 1-5 than it is from 5-9 in a 12 game schedule.
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And then there's that year two 56-7 loss, to a year one head coach, at a team that went 3-9 last season, 4-8 the year before, and 2-10 the year before that.
 
Red_Alert said:
And then there's that year two 56-7 loss, to a year one head coach, at a team that went 3-9 last season, 4-8 the year before, and 2-10 the year before that.
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but is undefeated this year so the point of looking what happened three years ago is stupid.

But hey, so is not being able to read or do math, huh? 5-9 = 14 :pound:
 
@Thiefery since we are down to DB's and walk on's at wide reciever do you know anything about Jacob Jordan from Southlake Carrol? He's a true freshman walk on and was the only bright spot at reciever last week. Never heard of him but sounds like he's going to get more playing time.
 
Wishbone said:
@Thiefery since we are down to DB's and walk on's at wide reciever do you know anything about Jacob Jordan from Southlake Carrol? He's a true freshman walk on and was the only bright spot at reciever last week. Never heard of him but sounds like he's going to get more playing time.
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No sir, have no clue about him.. hopefully he can keep it up this week for y'all
 
Wishbone said:
@Thiefery since we are down to DB's and walk on's at wide reciever do you know anything about Jacob Jordan from Southlake Carrol? He's a true freshman walk on and was the only bright spot at reciever last week. Never heard of him but sounds like he's going to get more playing time.
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They also have a kid named Jakeb Snyder who is a redshirt freshman. He is also a walkon and is stuck on the db depth chart. He was all state at Bixby at wr and is a slot guy like Drake Stoops. Someone isnt smart enough to use the resources they have.
 
Wishbone said:
@Thiefery since we are down to DB's and walk on's at wide reciever do you know anything about Jacob Jordan from Southlake Carrol? He's a true freshman walk on and was the only bright spot at reciever last week. Never heard of him but sounds like he's going to get more playing time.
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Not familiar with this exact player. Southlake is one of those schools where almost every player is developed to their potential. They may not have tons of natural talent, but what they have is usually very developed and they are "football knowledgeable". So they have players that don't get to start but would at a lot of other places just because of development. From what I've seen, they only have to fight the "country club" influences in their programs.
 
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