Playoffs need to extend to at least 8 teams

OlyDuck said:
Nope but for the most part i would take about 75% of the FCS over Eastern Michigan and Idaho so they arent exactly that different
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So, you're in agreement with me that there's no difference between scheduling Charlotte and scheduling Austin Peay other than labels?
 
OlyDuck said:
Nope but for the most part i would take about 75% of the FCS over Eastern Michigan and Idaho so they arent exactly that different
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Idaho is FCS... just an fyi. I they dropped back down in 2018 I think.
 
AG would have helped provide mondo entertainment in the SEC scheduling section.
 
ralphiewvu said:
AG would have helped provide mondo entertainment in the SEC scheduling section.
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Wild Turkey said:
The committee hasn't gotten in wrong. Baylor, TCU or Penn State is moot because they weren't going to win it so they are eye candy at best. I think the coaches and AP poll having built-in bias negates what you think you're getting out of the computer and some of those computer polls are crap because there are so many variables that can't be programed.

It's fine the way it is. People are just bitching because they either want an easier path for their team or they want the G5 schools to have a shot regardless of the outcome. Neither is a compelling argument.
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I hate TCU but that 2014 team was legit. They too would have beaten Bama in the semifinals. Boykin was playing out of his mind and Sweaty Ps defense was healthy down the stretch. The way that absolutely dominated ole miss in the peach bowl was something else.. Freeze kicked a FG inside the RZ, down by over 40 points just to avoid getting a goose egg.
 
rmilia1 said:
If you go to 16 you don't really need CCGs though. But I get your point although you'd still have conference Champs playing the opening round anyway just not all of them
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My Rule No. 1 of CFP changes is "don't mess with the money." That means, among others:

- No restriction of regular season (you don't lose 66 games to add a few more).
- CCGs are here to stay ... they make too much money, and you have to have them to decide who is the auto-qualifier.
- Bowls have to be involved ... they make too much money for everyone.

The only CC that will play is the lowest ranked of the 5 ... tough for them. Be better next time you win your conference, and at least you got in. Also, they get to play no. 12, at home.
 
rmilia1 said:
Because A.there's no guarantee a team would get destroyed and B. It makes the sport more interesting in the regular season and makes the postseason wayyyy better
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You're a CBB fan. What's the best weekend of the year in CBB?? The first 2 rounds of the tourney. Not because underdogs always win but because sometimes they do. Same thing here .
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Also the only two weeks CBB is interesting and winning vs losing actually means anything
 
TaikoTiger said:
Also the only two weeks CBB is interesting and winning vs losing actually means anything
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I love CBB so I disagree but either way losing doesn't mean anything in cfb right now for the 6 teams who always comprise the playoffs
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
My Rule No. 1 of CFP changes is "don't mess with the money." That means, among others:

- No restriction of regular season (you don't lose 66 games to add a few more).
- CCGs are here to stay ... they make too much money, and you have to have them to decide who is the auto-qualifier.
- Bowls have to be involved ... they make too much money for everyone.

The only CC that will play is the lowest ranked of the 5 ... tough for them. Be better next time you win your conference, and at least you got in. Also, they get to play no. 12, at home.
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I've been wondering if conferences expand to 18-20 schools, if they don't have it's own mini CFP within the conference. 3 div of 6 schools but just go by overall conf record to seed the top 4. I wonder if that money would be close to what the CFP actually plays out now?
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
So, you're in agreement with me that there's no difference between scheduling Charlotte and scheduling Austin Peay other than labels?
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for the most part but the schools still matter. in the case of those 2 in particular probably not much difference
 
Has anyone had their minds changed here regarding pro/anti expansion?

I was always of the mindset that the regular season was a play-off, but now leaning toward an expansion. Could be that it was a Covid season, but the bowls were somewhat meh to me.

Naturally we're going to have a few typical elites that will pound the lower seeds. (1 vs 8 or 16), (2 vs 7 or15), etc.. However, the (3 vs 6 or 14) and (4 vs 5 or 13) would be for an opportunity for lower seeds to ultimately play the elites.

Incorporate the NY6 bowls into the CFP (maybe add two) and call it good.
What's the purpose of the NY6 bowls anyway? In the big scheme of things they're as meaningless as the Poinsettia Bowl when you get down to it. "Yay #10 Iowa St beat #25 Oregon". The result is meaningless other than a trophy for the case. You can still award a trophy. but move Iowa St forward.

There is also the potential of a team that loses one or two games early in the season being considerably better (for various reasons) come December.
 
Thiefery said:
I've been wondering if conferences expand to 18-20 schools, if they don't have it's own mini CFP within the conference. 3 div of 6 schools but just go by overall conf record to seed the top 4. I wonder if that money would be close to what the CFP actually plays out now?
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I don't think tradition would allow it. For example, who would the SEC add? Traditionally, we only add Flagship Univs. We aren't adding a bunch of directional schools jut to do so.
 
OlyDuck said:
for the most part but the schools still matter. in the case of those 2 in particular probably not much difference
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But it really doesn't matter. We have UAB on our schedule over the next couple of years. They are much tougher than playing Kansas, as an example.
 
Red_Alert said:
Has anyone had their minds changed here regarding pro/anti expansion?

I was always of the mindset that the regular season was a play-off, but now leaning toward an expansion. Could be that it was a Covid season, but the bowls were somewhat meh to me.

Naturally we're going to have a few typical elites that will pound the lower seeds. (1 vs 8 or 16), (2 vs 7 or15), etc.. However, the (3 vs 6 or 14) and (4 vs 5 or 13) would be for an opportunity for lower seeds to ultimately play the elites.

Incorporate the NY6 bowls into the CFP (maybe add two) and call it good.
What's the purpose of the NY6 bowls anyway? In the big scheme of things they're as meaningless as the Poinsettia Bowl when you get down to it. "Yay #10 Iowa St beat #25 Oregon". The result is meaningless other than a trophy for the case. You can still award a trophy. but move Iowa St forward.

There is also the potential of a team that loses one or two games early in the season being considerably better (for various reasons) come December.
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The regular season is a playoff. Unfortunately it's a double elimination playoff for about 6-8 teams and single elimination for pretty much everyone else
 
rmilia1 said:
The regular season is a playoff. Unfortunately it's a double elimination playoff for about 6-8 teams and single elimination for pretty much everyone else
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So you're against Iowa potentially being a one or two loss team with a NY6 bid and no opportunity to advance further?
 
Red_Alert said:
So you're against Iowa potentially being a one or two loss team with a NY6 bid and no opportunity to advance further?
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I want a 16 team playoff. I know thats the minority but 16/130 is still way less than all other sports let in
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I don't think tradition would allow it. For example, who would the SEC add? Traditionally, we only add Flagship Univs. We aren't adding a bunch of directional schools jut to do so.
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something like this?

SEC West:
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
SEC East:
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee Vanderbilt

Big 10 West:
Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oklahoma, Wisconsin
Big 10 East:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
 
These 16 school playoffs..I don't know. Half of the people will be pissed when their QB or RB get hurt in the first or second round.
 
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