Question for those criticizing the SEC for the 8-game schedule

[Red_Alert]

The chart is mislabeled. The ranking is viewers not bodies in the stadium. Point awarded to Nebraska.

It is.

IMO Nebraska (being as bad as they've been) never comes in 16th in viewership if they were still in the Big 12. There's just not enough population for Nebraska, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma to support it.
Yeah Nebraska's a national brand and a blueblood, but they're irrelevant in the big picture. Since they're not even a Top 25 team they need the Big 10 footprint to get that kind of viewership.

 

[Hu War Yu]

Not even when Clemson was a bottom dweller barely making .500?

Do you not want credit for pummeling Indiana for over a century?

P5 = P5

 

[Thiefery]

Wouldn't that make season tix easier to get?

Unless you're referring to capacity. In that case Darrell Royal has 100,000 where Lincoln is just 90,000. That's still just 10,000 with a population difference from 2 million to 30 million.

Yeah I get that there's A&M, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor competition, where Nebraska has none. .

No what I'm saying is that everyone there revolves around football.. so it's not surprising that there is a wait list on season tickets there

 

[ericd7633]

Not even when Clemson was a bottom dweller barely making .500?

Lmao. Since your crazy ass coach knocked out that Clemson player, they'd be the 2nd best program in the Big 10.

 

[Red_Alert]

No what I'm saying is that everyone there revolves around football.. so it's not surprising that there is a wait list on season tickets there

Yeah, even Omaha's Creighton (cretin) fans don their red during football season.
They pull out their blue come basketball season. We call them "Jayskers".
Anybody west of Omaha (that are into sports) are Husker fans.

I have friends that could give a shit about any kind of sports. One even owns a sports bar, but he has no idea what games are on the multiple TV's in there. He just knows what sells drinks, food, etc.

 

[ellupo]

Do you not want credit for pummeling Indiana for over a century?

P5 = P5

But what about... Yeah just as I thought.

Nobody else is claiming "
South Carolina plays Clemson every.single.year. We're already playing the equivalent of 9 conference games."

 

[ellupo]

Lmao. Since your crazy ass coach knocked out that Clemson player, they'd be the 2nd best program in the Big 10.

Eh the Buckeyes broke their spirit last time they played. Proof is in the puddin.

 

[Hu War Yu]

But what about... Yeah just as I thought.

Nobody else is claiming "
South Carolina plays Clemson every.single.year. We're already playing the equivalent of 9 conference games."

It's not a whatabout.

So what if Clemson is in a down year? We play them every season, its not like we can dodge them when they're good and schedule them when they're bad...just like a conference game against a schitty Indiana.

Sorry you're not getting it because your penis is so small

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

It's not a whatabout.

So what if Clemson is in a down year? We play them every season, its not like we can dodge them when they're good and schedule them when they're bad...just like a conference game against a schitty Indiana.

Sorry you're not getting it because your penis is so small

Seems to me that USCjr and UF should get credit for playing Clemson and FSU every year. Sure, they have down years, but they are up more than they are down.

UK and UGA get less credit because their rivalry teams suck more often than not. Every now and again Lousivlle and the Nerds are good, and they are a P5, but we shouldn't get the credit that the other two teams get.

 

[Hu War Yu]

Seems to me that USCjr and UF should get credit for playing Clemson and FSU every year. Sure, they have down years, but they are up more than they are down.

UK and UGA get less credit because their rivalry teams suck more often than not. Every now and again Lousivlle and the Nerds are good, and they are a P5, but we shouldn't get the credit that the other two teams get.

Yeah, most years Clemson is better than us. I figured somebody would bring out the "what if they suck" line. I still don't care. We should never apologize for our schedule.

OSU is OSU, we're not.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Yeah, most years Clemson is better than us. I figured somebody would bring out the "what if they suck" line. I still don't care. We should never apologize for our schedule.

OSU is OSU, we're not.

Here is why you should never apologize - along with playing Clemson every year, USCjr also will have a 2-year rotation that will look like this (8 or 9 games):

Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Texas A&M, Auburn| Clemson
Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU, Tenn, Florida | Clemson

When they don't have a game against those teams they have:
Ole Miss, Kentucky, Mizzou
Miss State, Arkansas, Vanderbilt

I have you with UGA as the top team every year, but it could be UGA, Tenn, or ATM.

In the next 12 years, they also play UNC (3), VaTech (3), Miami (2), NC State (2), and had Oklahoma scheduled before that was canceled.

What other non-SEC team has a schedule that looks remotely as competitive as that? I'll be waiting for someone to post said schedule.

Now I will go throw up for defending the Cocks.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

The chart is mislabeled. The ranking is viewers not bodies in the stadium. Point awarded to Nebraska.

Yeah, I've always posted it in context with TV ratings. Will change if used later.

 

[ellupo]

It's not a whatabout.

So what if Clemson is in a down year? We play them every season, its not like we can dodge them when they're good and schedule them when they're bad...just like a conference game against a schitty Indiana.

Sorry you're not getting it because your penis is so small

yeah it wasnt just a year. But you do you little camper. Losing to little brother for this long is embarrassing.

 

[Hu War Yu]

yeah it wasnt just a year. But you do you little camper. Losing to little brother for this long is embarrassing.

 

[batchaps4me]

Ultimately when you play 8 league games you should be held accountable to play 2 P5 OOC games pretty much every year in order to match to leagues playing 9 league games as most every team playing 9 league games also plays 1 P5 OOC

If it is apples to apples you are wanting, why are you not calling for your conference to go to an eight game schedule?

 

[Wild Turkey]

SEC this morning show on sirius has been pushing the 8 game conference schedule over the 9 games these past couple days on air

I think the SEC has behind the scenes told schools to support the 8 game schedule unless they get paid.

On the flip side I think ESPN is trying to support an 8 game schedule because they don’t want to pay right now.

With Disney’s issues I don’t see the 9 game schedule happening if they can avoid it. On the flip side there are plenty of SEC schools that want to avoid it as well.

It will happen but it’s probably not happening in the next couple of years.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Most SEC teams aren't playing a team the caliber of Clemson ooc though

So yesion this small sample the schedule is fine. Better than fine

But that's not the majority of SEC schedules

Most SEC teams are playing 4 eminently winnable OOC games.

Play an SEC West conference schedule plus UGA every year and then you can complain about Auburn’s schedule.

I can’t remember the last time Iowa had an OOC game that people actually outside the B1G wanted to watch. Iowa is literally an after thought for most CFB fans and even when you are good and ranked No one gets excited because at some point you’re shitting the bed.

Real talk bro.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Only one of those games would be considered scheduling up ( Utah vs Florida ) and that was by happenstance not tradition

The reason people get upset the SEC only plays 8 league games isn't because of LSU/Bama/UGA type schools

Its because the middle and bottom of the league get artificially inflated recotds by consistently playing down in the OOC so when Bama,beats 5-0 Missouri early on the year is seen as a quality win when it's really not

It's why they have so many bowl eligible teams each year with .500 or better records ( a committee criteria )

Ultimately lots of leagues would have 75%+ bowl eligible teams if they only played 8 league games AND the mid to bottom of their league played ooc schedules akin to the SEC teams in that area in that league

You would have an argument if any team with any kind of pulse wasn’t going to a bowl. The threshold to make a bowl game is pathetic.

Your argument about over inflated wins is a joke also because we now have this thing called a playoff and last I checked the SEC teams that make it prove they deserved to be there. No one else can say that.

 

[rmilia1]

Play an SEC West conference schedule plus UGA every year and then you can complain about Auburn’s schedule.

I can’t remember the last time Iowa had an OOC game that people actually outside the B1G wanted to watch. Iowa is literally an after thought for most CFB fans and even when you are good and ranked No one gets excited because at some point you’re shitting the bed.

Real talk bro.

I never mentioned Auburn buddy

Not even one time

 

[Tharvot]

The 8 vs 9 in-conference games isn't about just one SEC team. It's the perception of the SEC as a whole.

It's basic maffs.

In a 9 game in-conference slate, 7 SEC teams would have a guaranteed extra loss.

Since polling is typically based on W/L, it effects Top 25 polling.
W/L also effects Strength of Schedule, how many teams become bowl eligible, etc.

2022 Overall losses (Using 14 team conferences)

ACC: 78
Big 10: 78
SEC: 69

As you can see if the SEC played 9 in-conference there would be 7 more guaranteed overall losses. i.e. 76 overall losses instead of just 69.

The Big 12 (58 overall losses) or PAC 12 (69 overall losses) can't be used in this example because they only have 10 and 12 teams respectively.

2022 Bowl Eligible Teams...

SEC: 11
Big 10: 10
ACC: 9

For the SEC, Florida (6-6), Arkansas (6-6), and Missouri (6-6), may not have become bowl eligible with what would have been a guaranteed 7 extra losses (somewhere) conference wide.

As has been said, there are no rules mandating 9 in-conference games. The SEC does it because they can. It benefits the overall perception of the SEC in multiple ways.

This. More conf games means more losses for conference teams. ez maf

Also, conference opponents tend to be more familiar with each other's strengths and weaknesses. Most programs also have bogey opponents within conference that tend to give them fits even though they are normally not as good as even a decent OOC opponent on paper.

The bowl system is dumb and well overdue for a change. But even though the only Bowls that matter these days are the CFP, if you can make your conference look stronger overall by eliminating guaranteed losses, then it enhances your conf champion's (and sometimes runner up in the current format) chances of getting in the CFP.