So NIL wasn't enough?

ELTEXAN said:
Monopsonies and monopolies are cool in a multi billion dollar industry because no one forced you to participate. Such genius
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Probably about as fair as someone hitting the genetic lottery and being able to play college sports. :beer2:
 
Best way to fix this IMO is to Declare any player that accepts NIL opportunities from any local business or school associated boosters business, before they have been enrolled at a school for a full calendar year, ineligible.
 
Deep Creek said:
NCAA aims to crack down on boosters disguising 'pay for play' as name, image and likeness payments

To me this is laughable. The NCAA has been terrible at enforcing their rules BEFORE the NIL and transfer portal. Who believes they'll be able to do so now?
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glass half full view;

maybe that's why the are making emerett or whatever his name is, step down. They had a come to jesus moment and will try to enforce these things now.

But it's too late, short of them announcing sanctions on Kansas, Arizona, LSU or whatever other bball program that's been implicated from years ago.. CFB doesn't care anymore.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Who said they don’t come up with ideas. I literally said they do , and that someone else has to sign off. You’re arguing my point. Fuck your dumb
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what about his dumb?
 
Thiefery said:
glass half full view;

maybe that's why the are making emerett or whatever his name is, step down. They had a come to jesus moment and will try to enforce these things now.

But it's too late, short of them announcing sanctions on Kansas, Arizona, LSU or whatever other bball program that's been implicated from years ago.. CFB doesn't care anymore.
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Hell no they don't. Why would they? They can thumb their nose at whatever they want to. What the NCAA didn't do by shooting themselves in the foot, the courts and legislatures did. Rules/regulations/laws that are enforceable are just a bunch of hot air.

And the irony is the NCAA IS the schools. Let's circle the wagons and shoot inward!
 
OregonDucks said:
Things were better when all this NIL stuff was done under the table.
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I disagree only because the players weren't getting enough money. You are fooling yourself to think there are enough people willing to break the law to funnel amounts to players like we are seeing now. These guys throwing around millions weren't doing that in McDonald's bags. The players deserve more money ... the key is how do you do that and still keep the sport as close to the one we love.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I disagree only because the players weren't getting enough money. You are fooling yourself to think there are enough people willing to break the law to funnel amounts to players like we are seeing now. These guys throwing around millions weren't doing that in McDonald's bags. The players deserve more money ... the key is how do you do that and still keep the sport as close to the one we love.
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And whoever is in control of all this, is not one I would put much faith in to keep it like that.
 
outofyourmind said:
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As I posted that I knew I would get this response. I hate politicians of all stripes and the government, so I totally agree with the point of your post.

That said, with 30 states having different NIL laws, getting a federal NIL law is, in fact, a good idea. I don't think they have a chance in hell of getting an anti-trust exemption (only MLB has that), but I can see that they may be able to get a national NIL law. That would make the NCAA's job easier.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
SEC and PAC commissioners meeting with Congress to see what they can do to assist.

www.si.com

SEC, Pac-12 to Pitch Senate on NIL Legislation, Athletes’ Employment Status

Two Power 5 commissioners are set to lobby lawmakers Thursday about creating federal legislation to regulate the name, image and likeness landscape.
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lol this is all a sham.. #RIP to the first senator or representative to crack down on NIL of their home state in SEC country that hinders his alma mater or his voters school
 
Thiefery said:
lol this is all a sham.. #RIP to the first senator or representative to crack down on NIL of their home state in SEC country that hinders his alma mater or his voters school
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What makes you think the NIL law would be bad? The idea is to make it uniform, not restrict NIL.

And, you don't think the Mississippi Senator isn't going to want to have clearer laws about NIL? You seem to think everyone likes the wild west aspect of it. I think you will find that most will prefer more order and their fans will support that.
 
How Jordan Addison's decision to enter the transfer portal could reshape college football

"This seems like a wakeup call not only to Pitt in this new college football world, but to other programs that perhaps do not have the glitz, glamour and national cache of other programs. There are clear tiers among Power 5 schools when it comes to national publicity, television opportunities, revenue and facilities."

I've always said the lower tier P5 schools more resemble the top tier G5 programs than they do top tier P5 programs. Yet they are considered P5.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
What makes you think the NIL law would be bad? The idea is to make it uniform, not restrict NIL.

And, you don't think the Mississippi Senator isn't going to want to have clearer laws about NIL? You seem to think everyone likes the wild west aspect of it. I think you will find that most will prefer more order and their fans will support that.
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lol IT'S BEEN a wild west..

look before NIL it was heavy behind the scenes. Schools always push the line. Same thing is happening now.. but people have their panites up tight because the portal has now become a defacto Free Agency for schools to upgrade immediately.

you know what funny, I know your older so you should remember, but CFB "fans" would get pissy about a player choosing to leave after their Jr season to enter the draft. How they "owed" them/school 4 full years.

To me it isn't about the money, the power the players have now.. it's the perceived control that schools have lost. I'm all for it
 
Thiefery said:
lol IT'S BEEN a wild west..

look before NIL it was heavy behind the scenes. Schools always push the line. Same thing is happening now.. but people have their panites up tight because the portal has now become a defacto Free Agency for schools to upgrade immediately.

you know what funny, I know your older so you should remember, but CFB "fans" would get pissy about a player choosing to leave after their Jr season to enter the draft. How they "owed" them/school 4 full years.

To me it isn't about the money, the power the players have now.. it's the perceived control that schools have lost. I'm all for it
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It's never been this wild west, ever. I mean you have boosters seriously telling a player that he already negotiated with him, he's not giving him more money. You have players agents saying unless a school gives him more money, he is transferring. You have a collective tied directly to UTjr bragging about paying $2 million a year to get a QB to enroll there. We've never had close to that happening.

I sort of get that fans get pissy when things change. They got all torn up when the players started getting cost of living money. But you have to see this is different. And don't @ me with this used to happen under the table. I know there were/are bagmen, and that players got paid, but it was never, ever to this degree.

So, I am not pissy, and my panties aren't in a twist. But I don't like the way this is going. You can be for player mobility and then getting NIL - I am - and still recognize what we have now isn't workable.

Your last sentence says alot ... you can want the players to have control over their lives more and still not want the schools to lose all control. You are advocating for chaos. That isn't good for anyone.
 
Let enough money wash into the sport and you will probably see some behavior that would have been unthinkable in the past. Picture this: a key lineman is approached and offered a few hundred thousand dollars to wrench his back at the last minute and miss an important game....leaving his offense trying to protect a valuable QB and establish a run game. Or a defensive back that is critical to shutting down one side of the field gets a helluva offer to wrench his back and do the same thing making his team more vulnerable to giving up points. Here are players who are is faced with the easy chance to make the big bucks for just not playing. The reason it was never a valid possibility before now was (a) because no player ever thought in those amounts and (b) the ethics of players are going to be tested like never before when they see millions of dollars being thrown around to their teammates. Use your imagination because the craziest fans and organized crime will be using theirs. NIL can be good but the ramifications could be interesting. Really big money can be corrosive.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
It's never been this wild west, ever. I mean you have boosters seriously telling a player that he already negotiated with him, he's not giving him more money. You have players agents saying unless a school gives him more money, he is transferring. You have a collective tied directly to UTjr bragging about paying $2 million a year to get a QB to enroll there. We've never had close to that happening.

I sort of get that fans get pissy when things change. They got all torn up when the players started getting cost of living money. But you have to see this is different. And don't @ me with this used to happen under the table. I know there were/are bagmen, and that players got paid, but it was never, ever to this degree.

So, I am not pissy, and my panties aren't in a twist. But I don't like the way this is going. You can be for player mobility and then getting NIL - I am - and still recognize what we have now isn't workable.

Your last sentence says alot ... you can want the players to have control over their lives more and still not want the schools to lose all control. You are advocating for chaos. That isn't good for anyone.
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i love chaos because of all the years that players would commit to certain position coaches, coordinators or even head coaches, they were stuck once those coaches bolted after NSD or a season. Coaches hardly ever get any scrutiny because it's part of the game and players should pick schools over relationships. Now they are choosing relationships that give them immediate compensation, and they are being scrutinized as mercenaries.. unlike the coaches.

The whole student athlete thing is funny because that died a long time ago when HEAD coaches were making a few hundred thousands to a few million as the sport grew. Coordinators are now making a couple mil a season. .. hell our DT coach just got an extension and raise that pays him a million.

People talk about scholarships and the value it brings.. shoot, there's more online classes than ever before yet schools continue to charge more.. Funny how Bama is getting better academically as soon as Saban took off with the football team.

Boosters/ADs with coaches..it's all the same shit
 
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