So NIL wasn't enough?

Goldbug said:
Let enough money wash into the sport and you will probably see some behavior that would have been unthinkable in the past. Picture this: a key lineman is approached and offered a few hundred thousand dollars to wrench his back at the last minute and miss an important game....leaving his offense trying to protect a valuable QB and establish a run game. Or a defensive back that is critical to shutting down one side of the field gets a helluva offer to wrench his back and do the same thing making his team more vulnerable to giving up points. Here are players who are is faced with the easy chance to make the big bucks for just not playing. The reason it was never a valid possibility before now was (a) because no player ever thought in those amounts and (b) the ethics of players are going to be tested like never before when they see millions of dollars being thrown around to their teammates. Use your imagination because the craziest fans and organized crime will be using theirs. NIL can be good but the ramifications could be interesting. Really big money can be corrosive.
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It's going to be a minor league soon and as upset as some fans will get.. SCHOOLS will be all aboard because it still brings in a lot of money
 
Thiefery said:
lol IT'S BEEN a wild west..

look before NIL it was heavy behind the scenes. Schools always push the line. Same thing is happening now.. but people have their panites up tight because the portal has now become a defacto Free Agency for schools to upgrade immediately.

you know what funny, I know your older so you should remember, but CFB "fans" would get pissy about a player choosing to leave after their Jr season to enter the draft. How they "owed" them/school 4 full years.

To me it isn't about the money, the power the players have now.. it's the perceived control that schools have lost. I'm all for it
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I'm old too. But, I've thought about this and have come to the conclusion of that the only thing that needs regulation is the transfer portal time frame. Not sure about the calendar and how long the window is open, but I think it does need deadlines...for the benefit of players, teammates and coaches.

As far as NIL, let 'em make whatever they can as long as they can. And I don't even think they should be required to sign autographs, promote on social media, etc to get the cash. If someone(s) are willing to fork it over to them just for playing their sport, let the parties work that out. Is it professional, yep...it already is. And we shouldn't worry about whether an 18 year old pisses it away either. I live in the oil patch. I've seen many heirs piss the family oil fortunes away. (I've also seen some manage it well.)

I do think the IRS is going to have something to say about the money.
 
Thiefery said:
It's going to be a minor league soon and as upset as some fans will get.. SCHOOLS will be all aboard because it still brings in a lot of money
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We're both right. NIL is a fact of life but so will be the corrosive effect of millions of dollars now will be sloshing around to 18-21 year old athletes that more often than not think they are special to begin with.
 
Goldbug said:
We're both right. NIL is a fact of life but so will be the corrosive effect of millions of dollars now will be sloshing around to 18-21 year old athletes that more often than not think they are special to begin with.
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Yep. And I'm guessing the ones forking it over also think they are special. And several will turn out to be duds. They always have.
 
Thiefery said:
i love chaos because of all the years that players would commit to certain position coaches, coordinators or even head coaches, they were stuck once those coaches bolted after NSD or a season. Coaches hardly ever get any scrutiny because it's part of the game and players should pick schools over relationships. Now they are choosing relationships that give them immediate compensation, and they are being scrutinized as mercenaries.. unlike the coaches.

The whole student athlete thing is funny because that died a long time ago when HEAD coaches were making a few hundred thousands to a few million as the sport grew. Coordinators are now making a couple mil a season. .. hell our DT coach just got an extension and raise that pays him a million.

People talk about scholarships and the value it brings.. shoot, there's more online classes than ever before yet schools continue to charge more.. Funny how Bama is getting better academically as soon as Saban took off with the football team.

Boosters/ADs with coaches..it's all the same shit
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A few quick points/counters:
- I don't think most people are against players getting NIL. They are against the "pay for play" aspect of it, as well as how horribly it's been handled. Same with the transfer ... they just need to control it better. Your desires notwithstanding, chaos is not a good thing for CFB.
- The student athlete thing is still a very real thing. You are concentrating on the very top that go on to play pro sports. For 90% of the other student athletes getting a college degree is a very real thing that matters a lot. For many players, that degree is something they wouldn't have received and it wouldn't have lead them to where they are today.
- I don't get your point about Saban ... Bama has used the success of their football team to take their student body nationally. Their students are now 66% out of state. They did this to get more OOS income, and to get better students. But that means a scholarship is worth more, not less, at Bama (and other schools).
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
As I posted that I knew I would get this response. I hate politicians of all stripes and the government, so I totally agree with the point of your post.

That said, with 30 states having different NIL laws, getting a federal NIL law is, in fact, a good idea. I don't think they have a chance in hell of getting an anti-trust exemption (only MLB has that), but I can see that they may be able to get a national NIL law. That would make the NCAA's job easier.
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LMAO. We have 30+ different privacy laws across the states. Pretty sure there is a line for things the feds need to care about, and NIL ain't up there.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
What makes you think the NIL law would be bad? The idea is to make it uniform, not restrict NIL.

And, you don't think the Mississippi Senator isn't going to want to have clearer laws about NIL? You seem to think everyone likes the wild west aspect of it. I think you will find that most will prefer more order and their fans will support that.
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Because restrictions aren't usually set at the top of the chart, but the middle. So it will restrict the top.
 
fordman84 said:
LMAO. We have 30+ different privacy laws across the states. Pretty sure there is a line for things the feds need to care about, and NIL ain't up there.
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I mean I agree those useless pieces of shit won't do anything, we agree on that.

But there are 7 bills that have been drafted at the federal level, the first in March 2019. They have had hearings on it. So, yeah, it's something they care about. You act like Congress only does important stuff ... talk about LOL.


As you can imagine, the Reps is pretty straight-forward and tracks most of the state NIL language. The Dems goes way beyond that mandating health insurance (something the NCAA should do anyway), and as an example of overreach requires that athletes who try to get drafted have to be allowed back in their sport. For that reason they won't find common ground when they really should be able to.
 
fordman84 said:
Because restrictions aren't usually set at the top of the chart, but the middle. So it will restrict the top.
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You could actually read the 7 federal bills that have been submitted and see that they are all very pro-player.
 
Thiefery said:
lol this is all a sham.. #RIP to the first senator or representative to crack down on NIL of their home state in SEC country that hinders his alma mater or his voters school
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wow.. while all this was going down, SEC got the CFP to go from Vegas to Atlanta
 
Thiefery said:
wow.. while all this was going down, SEC got the CFP to go from Vegas to Atlanta
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FYI ... the reason it was moved was the same week Vegas has the big electronic show. They were expecting expansion and the Champ game to be a week later. They really had no choice as there would literally be no room in the inn.
 
lol it's too late.. the supreme court voted to let NIL in and now the NCAA wants to make guidelines.. almost a year into it out of the blue.. yeah good luck
 
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