Stop it, you're hurting my feelings.

NU_FTW said:
when 1/3 of all games in the playoffs are same conference rematches and its the final with only having to go through 2 teams its just not entertaining. Put it in the first round and id find it more entertaining, add more teams and games to have to go through and should they meet in the final then so be it even that would be more entertaining should they find a way to go through it all. I dont care what conference it is (yea the SEC has some SEC fatigue but that isnt a hate on the SEC just a fact of being boring)
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I can see where outsiders are coming from, but at the same time, Michigan and Cincinnati had chances to prevent it and they offered zero resistance.

I’m all for a 12 team playoff though.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I can see where outsiders are coming from, but at the same time, Michigan and Cincinnati had chances to prevent it and they offered zero resistance.

I’m all for a 12 team playoff though.
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I dont think either of those teams were truly top 4 teams id love to have seen some others get a shot (especially Utah without any opt-outs) I was never sold on either Michigan or Cincy being worth a damn
 
NU_FTW said:
I dont think either of those teams were truly top 4 teams id love to have seen some others get a shot (especially Utah without any opt-outs) I was never sold on either Michigan or Cincy being worth a damn
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Ohio State definitely would have posed a bigger threat to UGA than Michigan. Utah though, 3 losses with 2 to G5 teams, I don’t think they would have stood much of a chance against either
 
RubinRock said:
Meh. I think a lot of people would be against rematches, regardless of conference. Comparing it to the NFL is not an apples to apples comparison and is pretty disingenuous.
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Why ... explain how I am being disingenuous when, in fact, I am dead ass serious. I don't see the difference. We have rematches in the NFL all the time when the best teams win and face each other again. How is that a bad thing in CFB and not in the NFL. How is it not apples to apples, and for sure explain how you concluded I was being disingenuous.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Ohio State definitely would have posed a bigger threat to UGA than Michigan. Utah though, 3 losses with 2 to G5 teams, I don’t think they would have stood much of a chance against either
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they were a different team when they changed QBs id have given them a better chance than either cincy or michigan with the way they were playing at the end of the season
 
NU_FTW said:
they were a different team when they changed QBs id have given them a better chance than either cincy or michigan with the way they were playing at the end of the season
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There’s only 4 spots. They had 3 losses, 2 to G5 teams and one to Oregon State. That’s borderline at best for being in a 12 team playoff IMO(I’m not for auto bids. Utah and Pitt this season being big reasons why)
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
There’s only 4 spots. They had 3 losses, 2 to G5 teams and one to Oregon State. That’s borderline at best for being in a 12 team playoff IMO(I’m not for auto bids. Utah and Pitt this season being big reasons why)
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Oh im not arguing they SHOULD have been in a 4 team playoff. Just they were better at teh end of the season than Michigan and Cincy in my opinion 3 losses is a good argument to exclude them no doubt
 
NU_FTW said:
Oh im not arguing they SHOULD have been in a 4 team playoff. Just they were better at teh end of the season than Michigan and Cincy in my opinion 3 losses is a good argument to exclude them no doubt
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I don’t know. Michigan closed the regular season out strong. They easily beat Ohio State and had a blowout win in the B1G championship game. UGA was probably the worst possible matchup for them though with a similar play style, but a more talented roster
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I don’t know. Michigan closed the regular season out strong. They easily beat Ohio State and had a blowout win in the B1G championship game. UGA was probably the worst possible matchup for them though with a similar play style, but a more talented roster
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Utah just passed the eyeball test and looked very very disciplined. I cant say for sure they would beat michigan or cincy (but if i had a gun to my head id pick em) Either way id like to have seen some of the top teams fight for all the marbles given the chance. and i used to be against all expansion but now i think it is needed to keep the post season entertaining especially if one conference is going to continually get in multiple teams (righ tnow it is the SEC but could easily change being college football)
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Why ... explain how I am being disingenuous when, in fact, I am dead ass serious. I don't see the difference. We have rematches in the NFL all the time when the best teams win and face each other again. How is that a bad thing in CFB and not in the NFL. How is it not apples to apples, and for sure explain how you concluded I was being disingenuous.
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Excuse me. Maybe not disingenuous. Just fucking retarded.

One league has 130+ teams. One has 32.
The 130+ team league plays only 12-13 games. The 32 team league plays 17, and therefore a higher percentage of opponents.
One league has a set of rules to make the playoffs. The other has a beauty contest.
One league requires playoff teams to play 3-4 games to win it all. The other requires just 2.

Other than that, yeah, no difference at all.
 
RubinRock said:
Excuse me. Maybe not disingenuous. Just fucking retarded.

One league has 130+ teams. One has 32.
The 130+ team league plays only 12-13 games. The 32 team league plays 17, and therefore a higher percentage of opponents.
One league has a set of rules to make the playoffs. The other has a beauty contest.
One league requires playoff teams to play 3-4 games to win it all. The other requires just 2.

Other than that, yeah, no difference at all.
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Hey dumb fuck, I know the difference in the leagues. Even someone with a Clemson diploma can figure that out.

The question I asked, that for some reason got you all riled up, was why are rematches good in the NFL, but bad in CFB? I understand why there are more rematches ... but no one seems to whine about rematches in the NFL. If we can enjoy a third LA v. SF game, explain why someone wouldn't enjoy a UGA v. Bama rematch, if it is the best two teams?
 
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WhosYourDawggy said:
Hey dumb fuck, I know the difference in the leagues. Even someone with a Clemson diploma can figure that out.

The question I asked, that for some reason got you all riled up, was why are rematches good in the NFL, but bad in CFB? I understand why there are more rematches ... but no one seems to whine about rematches in the NFL. If we can enjoy a third LA v. SF game, explain why someone wouldn't enjoy a UGA v. Bama rematch, if it is the best two teams?
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Those are the reasons why some people don't want rematches....what the fuck don't you understand about that. I can't spell it out any slower for you.
 
RubinRock said:
Those are the reasons why some people don't want rematches....what the fuck don't you understand about that. I can't spell it out any slower for you.
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SMH.
 
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WhosYourDawggy said:
I agree if that happened, we would get expansion. But, serious question regarding rematches ... it happens all the time in the NFL ... Buffalo and KC just played one of the best games in the history of the NFL, and it was a rematch. Tampa and LA was a rematch. SF v. LA will be the third time they have played this year.

The NFL is the no. 1 league in all sports ... how come rematches are ok there, but some people are dead set against them in CFB even if it results in the best on best?
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NFL has an actual playoff and a shit ton less teams
 
fishinabarrel said:
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NFL has an actual playoff and a shit ton less teams
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If we expand to 12, which I am totally in favor of, you are then ok with rematches?

I get that less teams mean more rematches ... but we still enjoy them even though we've seen them play 2 or 3 times. We want the best to play the best in the NFL. Not sure why that is different in CFB.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
If we expand to 12, which I am totally in favor of, you are then ok with rematches?

I get that less teams mean more rematches ... but we still enjoy them even though we've seen them play 2 or 3 times. We want the best to play the best in the NFL. Not sure why that is different in CFB.
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With a larger playoff you will see less complaint about rematches, yes

Less teams means a lot more common opponents and a lot more teams playing each other.

We do want the best teams to play each other but sometimes best teams get upset (see this weekend in the NFL). You have people arbitrarily picking the best teams in CFB. It doesn't get played out on the field nearly as often.

Btw, I'm fine with how things turned out this season, other teams dropped the ball which led to what happened. Just pointing out the reasons it makes rematches a bitter pill to swallow
 
Young's predictions last year btw
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fishinabarrel said:
With a larger playoff you will see less complaint about rematches, yes

Less teams means a lot more common opponents and a lot more teams playing each other.

We do want the best teams to play each other but sometimes best teams get upset (see this weekend in the NFL). You have people arbitrarily picking the best teams in CFB. It doesn't get played out on the field nearly as often.

Btw, I'm fine with how things turned out this season, other teams dropped the ball which led to what happened. Just pointing out the reasons it makes rematches a bitter pill to swallow
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I've been advocating for an expansion to 12 for many years. I don't like the arbitrary nature, either.

We will almost always see the same 4 teams at the end, but here is how I see it panning out:

Round 1 - these will be 4 great games, on campus. 5v. 12, 6 v. 11, 7 v. 10 and 8 v. 9 means these should be way closer games. Most of these teams are interchangeable, and if a team really was underestimated, they will have their chance.

Round 2 - these games will have have some blow outs - 1v. 8, 2 v. 7 are likely to be blow outs, based on past performance. 3 v. 6, and 4 v. 5 could be completive games in that 3 and 4 have historically been blown out, but will now be playing more similar teams.

Round 3 and finals - this is basically where we are now and I would expect similar results - 2 teams fairly dominate over the others.
 
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