Tennessee Fans Can't Handle Their Liquor

WhosYourDawggy said:
Alex, I’ll take Things That Don’t Exist for 1000.

The idea there are Vandy fans that give a shit enough to be bad, ugly fans is absurd. We don’t really care about UT.

OP keeps talking about all these bad fan bases. Perhaps he needs to look in the mirror and understand that the other fan bases are simply responding to the asshole Tennessee fans.

I have followed college football for over 55 years. What I have found is the most fan bases are just fine, and poke fun at one another. Sure there are drunk assholes in every game, but for the most part people are just poking fun at one another at games, at school, at work, etc.

But the idea that of the very few Vanderbilt fans that actually exist, that they are a venomous fan base is absurd on its face. Hell we can’t even get people to show up to games, let alone care enough to be a bad fan.

The next time you decide to post about other school’s fanbases, stop and give a real good thought about how horrible some of your own fans can be. Then maybe it’ll make sense.
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A lot of truth in this post.
 
78Cyclones said:
IMO, the difference in the Alabama @ Tennessee and Tennessee @ Georgia games was simply due to UGA having a much better defense, as both Alabama and Georgia could score at will vs. the Vols. Menwhile, Alabama's defense was clueless against UT, while the Dawg defense hunkered down.
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Tenn beat AL with one guy number 11. Cover that dude and Bama wins by at least a TD.
 
78Cyclones said:
IMO, the difference in the Alabama @ Tennessee and Tennessee @ Georgia games was simply due to UGA having a much better defense, as both Alabama and Georgia could score at will vs. the Vols. Menwhile, Alabama's defense was clueless against UT, while the Dawg defense hunkered down.
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At the time, I posted that UTjr would be seeing a different level of defense when they played us. The UTjr people just shrugged it off:

Volbound1700:

Regarding Alabama's defense, I think it has declined the last 3-4 years but some of that just deals with the changes in CFB, notable penalties that weaken defenses.

They are still a great defense. Look what they did against Miss State.

Alabama may still be the best team in the country in my opinion but we will need to see.

Also to say your secondary will stop Tennessee is pretty arrogant. UK fans said the same thing. I saw UF get a 70 yard bomb against you in 3rd quarter. I think you will see this happen a couple of times this game. It happened to Georgia against Alabama in Atlanta last year and your defense was arguable better last year.

As stated it is going to come down to whether you can put pressure and whether Stetson can match Tennessee in scoring.

I responded:

It's not arrogant to say we have the best D you will have seen, nor that we have the best secondary you will have seen. And I mentioned the 70 yard pass - it wasn't a "bomb" - that was blown Cover 2 coverage for a long TD. I agree with you that you will likely break off a couple of big plays - I also said that in my post. So where exactly am I being arrogant?

If anything, it seems to me that you are overestimating the difference between our offenses probably because yours has been "exciting" while ours has been "efficient." Scores count either way. And you seem to be underestimating the difference in our defenses because I think you just want to. There is nothing you can point to in the stats that would support that.

Why do you keep saying it's whether Stetson can match UTjr in scoring? Have you followed us at all this year? Have you looked at the offensive stats I posted? Unless Stet shits the bed, or you guys play some miraculously perfect defensive game, we are going to score points, too. You realize that, right?


One of us read the room.

It's a great thread to read in retrospect.

 
Yeah Georgia fans being asshole Georgia fans.

I am going to step away before I get nasty.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Yeah Georgia fans being asshole Georgia fans.

I am going to step away before I get nasty.
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Victim much? You are the dipshit that keeps ripping UGA and then are amazed that we fire back?

Get nasty brother, doesn't bother me one bit.

brother anyone GIF
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Victim much? You are the dipshit that keeps ripping UGA and then are amazed that we fire back?

Get nasty brother, doesn't bother me one bit.

brother anyone GIF
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No the fact is I really don't think you guys got challenged very much with your schedule and I am not sure if you are even that good. I mean Tennessee got slammed by South Carolina and we are your BEST win. Doesn't say much for your resume.
 
@WhosYourDawggy

By the way, you haven't prove anything and you literally can't. It is total speculation on whether Georgia would have won at Neyland or not because it didn't happen.

Georgia hasn't played a meaningful road game and Tennessee didn't look competitive in Athens so it really just comes down to opinions.
 
Volbound1700 said:
No the fact is I really don't think you guys got challenged very much with your schedule and I am not sure if you are even that good. I mean Tennessee got slammed by South Carolina and we are your BEST win. Doesn't say much for your resume.
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LOL ... don't let the fax get in the way:

UGA had the most top 25 wins of any team in CFB:

15 Oregon - Neutral site - 49-3
20 USCjr - Away - 48-7
6 UTjr - Home - 27-13 (and we all know it could have been a lot worse!)
24 MSU - Away - 45-19
16 LSU - Neutral site - 50-30

1 home game, 2 away, 2 neutral site

Cumulative score - 219 - 62
Average score - 44 - 12.4

You were saying?
 
Volbound1700 said:
@WhosYourDawggy

By the way, you haven't prove anything and you literally can't. It is total speculation on whether Georgia would have won at Neyland or not because it didn't happen.

Georgia hasn't played a meaningful road game and Tennessee didn't look competitive in Athens so it really just comes down to opinions.
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I fully expected a "na na na boo boo" at the end there. Maybe a "stick your tongue out" gif. Kind of disappointed in you.
 
Lol @ calling the game “neutral site” when it’s still in the same state and your team’s been there about twenty million times or so.

When the other team had to fly in from the other side of the country and never plays there.

:rolleyes:
 
Knight&Day said:
Lol @ calling the game “neutral site” when it’s still in the same state and your team’s been there about twenty million times or so.

When the other team had to fly in from the other side of the country and never plays there.

:rolleyes:
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Who cares? That could have been played in Eugene, Ukraine, Athens or hell and it wouldn’t have made a difference.

Plus, there isn’t a west coast team worthy of us coming to them. They gotta earn that right as second class citizens and second rate football programs.
 
78Cyclones said:
True Story:

I've been to 343 CFB games in 78 total stadiums over the years. I've had very few negative experiences, mostly because I am not an ass-hole fan. However, I had one really funny thing happen back in 1996. My sister (Auburn fan) and I (Alabama fan growing up) were in Atlanta for the weekend visiting our Grandmother who was in the Hospital. Once we got there and visited for a while, we needed to get away a bit. So, we made up a story and left on Saturday afternoon and headed to the Tennessee @ Georgia game in regular clothing. We were incognito.

Got to Athens, scalped some tickets and saw a great game. Tennessee with that Peyton Manning dude won 29-17. He even had a highlight play or two. During the game, there was a drunk Bulldog fan a couple of rows behind us constantly berating the Georgia QB play. It was annoying, but it's a football game, so I just ignored it. However, at some point in the 2nd half, my sister had enough, turned around and said: "And what position did you play in college?" lol. Made everybody laugh, and he finally shut up.

After the game, we were walking out behind a couple from Tennessee all decked out in their gaudy orange. The lady turned to her husband and said: "I've never been to a place with ruder fans! I'd much rather go to a game @ Alabama or @ Auburn, because their fans are so much nicer to be around." My sister and just looked at each other and laughed about that. It's true though. As arrogant as Alabama fans can be, and as much as Alabama and Auburn fans do not like each other, both places are above average in hospitality to visiting fans.

True Story!
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have a lot of UGA alums in my family

most of them won't go to a game at Sanford because of how bad the crowds have gotten
 
Hitman Hart said:
have a lot of UGA alums in my family

most of them won't go to a game at Sanford because of how bad the crowds have gotten
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For me, the rowdiness and rudeness of the crowd is my favorite thing about going to a game at Sanford.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I’m a shit talker from way back and a firm believer in the “we might not win the game, but we can damn sure whip your ass in the parking lot” philosophy
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'Cept there's nary a soul whose ass you, personally, can whip. That's a faulty philosophy you follow, scarecrow
 
Stepped away and let me sum it up here.

@WhosYourDawggy @Illustrious Potentate @NewPhoneWhoDis

Addressing you all in one post.

1. Attacking Georgia - I have on multiple posts stated that I felt Georgia is the "best" team in this thread. I do have red flags that I will get to in a minute with Georgia and I think I am spot on with some of these concerns and this is why you are getting your getting so argumentative. I also even stated that I would vote right now for Stetson Bennett for Heisman. You also don't see me going around constantly railing on teams we beat or referring to teams as "jr" in troll post. I can be very argumentative at times on this board, especially because I am argue positions that I truly believe that others disagree with. I am going to get to that position about Georgia in a minute.

2. Georgia-Tennessee - @WhosYourDawggy has a big issue with me saying Tennessee's offense did not play well that game and wants me to 100% acknowledge it is all Georgia's defense. I 100% disagree having watched Tennessee play all 12 games this season (well I missed the opener against Akron, I was at a work party). Tennessee's offense in the first half made tons of mistakes including overthrows, penalties, lining up incorrect, taking too long on the play clock (look how many times we nearly got to 0, that wasn't Tennessee's offense). I do think the offense started to rally in second half but the defensive pressure came on then and our offensive line gave out. I give Georgia credit in second half because that was the first time that I have seen the offensive line fall apart like it did all season. Kudos to Georgia there. However, you can't say it was 100% Georgia's defense because Georgia's defense put up stats against Tennessee that they did NOT put up during the course of the full season. If you look at the stats around the game, the Georgia-Tennessee game looks more like an aberration for both teams because neither team fits how they did the rest of the season. Georgia had 4 sacks or something against Tennessee. No one else in the SEC East did that and Georgia wasn't putting those numbers up against other SEC teams, even ones that were vulnerable to sacks. You can't discount the impact of the penalties, overthrows, Tennessee not having a great game plan (especially in first half), not snapping the ball until clock is near 0, etc. Georgia's defense doesn't cause those mistakes. Tennessee clearly wasn't ready for a prime-time game and it showed. It shows more the weakness of Tennessee and perhaps that we weren't ready to be a playoff contender than it says Georgia is great. These facts have also been supported by comments from players and coaches on both sides of the ball for the game. But I know you know more than they do. People on this forum are bad about that.

3. My red flags with Georgia - I have concerns with Georgia. They haven't been challenged with their schedule. I said the same thing about Ohio State but their fans didn't go into a frenzy. @osubuckeye89 was far more logical and calm in his responses to me. That doesn't mean that I don't think Georgia is the best team. I also though Ohio State was a great team and I still think that. I just think Georgia hasn't been put in a spot that really challenges them yet. All their big matchups (LSU, Oregon, and Tennessee) where in situations were they had the crowd and momentum advantage. What bothers all of you is that I TRULY believe that Georgia would not go unbeaten if they played a tougher schedule similar to Alabama and I believe there are several teams including Alabama and Ohio State that are unbeaten with Georgia's schedule. How will Georgia perform in the playoffs? It is to be seen. I am sorry, Georgia hasn't impressed me like others such as @NewPhoneWhoDis . I know you want me to get on here and claim you are the best team ever. I heard the say shit leading up to the game in Athens. I don't believe that. So sue me. I think you might be the best team in 2022 but you really had a schedule teed up for you to go 12-0 on. This is why I picked Georgia as my top option in @CoalTrain even though I thought Alabama was the best team at the time. I wouldn't be 100% surprised if Georgia loses to Ohio State. I think Georgia has the better team but if Ohio State can keep it close, Ohio State has already been punched in the mouth and had to play a solid opponent. I haven't seen Georgia in a real battle against a quality opponent yet. The Oregon and Tennessee games were just not good measurement stick because both teams laid an egg and had a lot of intangibles against them and for Georgia. Don't give me South Carolina either because you know that is just trolling. South Carolina hit lightning in the bottle for 2 games at the end of the season, they were not a quality opponent or a challenge for Georgia.

4. 2023 Tennessee - I am not sure why that came up but here are my thoughts. I said Tennessee is likely going to be down and be an 8-4 or 7-5 type team. They will go bowling but not be a playoff contender. There is an outside chance if a lot of things go in our favor that we could buck that trend and be a real threat. Almost all of the following would have to happen:

1. Joe Milton would need to start hitting his deep throws and get accurate. An accurate Joe Milton would actually be more of a threat than Hendon Hooker due to his arm strength. I have only seen him in one serious game so far (Vanderbilt) and he only hit one deep ball. It was enough havoc to cause Vanderbilt to play back and Tennessee ran the ball all over them but that was Vanderbilt. I would need to see it against a real team to believe that our offense can cause that on a regular basis (another factor could be Nico taking off and being the QB and living up to billing immediately)

2. Incoming freshmen step it up immediately on defense. This is another stretch but our defense, as pointed out, was a major problem. If somehow the new class comes in and plays great from out the gate plus some other players in the 2nd and 3rd string step it up and we at least have a decent defense and secondary combined with a great offense, we could be a threat

3. No drop-off in offensive line play - We are losing Darnell Wright and Jerome Carvin. Darnell Wright will be one of the top offensive linemen taken in the upcoming draft and could be the highest NFL pick from Tennessee.

4. Alabama and Florida continue to struggle and South Carolina doesn't take off

All those factors play in Tennessee's favor and you could see an 11-0 Tennessee team play Georgia. That is a lot of what ifs though and I am more leaning toward 2023 being a rebuilding year with an 8-4 record.
 
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