Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

How long?

  • Year 1

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Within the first 3-5 seasons

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • At LEAST 10 years

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Texas BBQ style potato salad

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
OlyDuck said:
isnt Liberty a religious school too?
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and here is their mascot

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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Right now they're bound by their TV contracts that run through 2025. The B10 actually has a great opportunity here because ours runs out in 2022 I believe.
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Big 10 contract with FOX/ESPN expires in 2025.
BTN contract with FOX expires in 2032.

That is a good thing since the new SEC contract doesn't start until 2024. You're better off being on the backside of this as that gives you more time and information regarding what the rates are.

The SEC deal dumped CBS and is now exclusive to ESPN. That leaves the Big 10 door open to not 'just' ESPN, but also to other networks if those other networks want to stay competitive in this CFB cash cow.

The Big 12 contract is heavily weighted with FOX and that appears to be going bye-bye.

The Big 10 needs to expand a couple more teams that at least broaden their footprint some (Kansas/Colorado). The only homeruns would be Texas/Notre Dame and that's unlikely. The Big 10 already has 4 anchor bluebloods so they'll be safe.

The Big 10 needs to focus on getting the most bang for it's buck regarding expansion teams and let the dust settle on the SEC/TX/OU thing. Then go into media rights negotiations with all information available.
I think the Big 10 comes out of this with a new contract in 2025 that's at least as good as the SEC's if not even a bit better.
As opposed to the SEC being exclusive ESPN, the Big 10 can make their contract a conglomerate of ESPN/FOX/CBS. maybe even NBC.
 
OlyDuck said:
so the letter they sent the SEC says for 2025
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That's because the BIG 12 GOR expires in 2025. It's just legalese formality.

The goal of TX/OU and the SEC now is to do what they can to get the Big 12 dissolved ASAP so that TX/OU don't have to pay the $70 million+ penalties each for breaking the the Big 12 GOR.
 
Deep Creek said:
Doesn't matter anymore. It is about how much money you can get. Like Jerry Jones' Cowgirls. Biggest money maker in the NFL and hasn't won shit in long time. Not winning is okay as long as the cash in rolling in.
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While that is true, if I was a fan I would still be pissed and disappointed that we will finish 3-6 in the conference each year.
 
The wisest thing for the remainder of the Big 12 teams to do is stand pat until TX/OU pay their GOR violation penalties.

If TX/OU decide to stay until that GOR contract expires, the remaining Big 12 schools will continue to receive their media rights payments until 2025 which is currently $35 million/yr each.

If TX/OU have to pay the $76 million/ea GOR penalty that's $76 mil x 2 = $152 million total. Divide that by the 8 remaining teams and it's a $19 million bonus per remaining team in addition to the $35 million they'll receive for 2021. i.e $54 million payout per team.

Stand pat until TX/OU either stay through 2025 or collect your $19 million first then let the Big 12 dissolve.
 
Red_Alert said:
Big 10 contract with FOX/ESPN expires in 2025.
BTN contract with FOX expires in 2032.

That is a good thing since the new SEC contract doesn't start until 2024. You're better off being on the backside of this as that gives you more time and information regarding what the rates are.

The SEC deal dumped CBS and is now exclusive to ESPN. That leaves the Big 10 door open to not 'just' ESPN, but also to other networks if those other networks want to stay competitive in this CFB cash cow.

The Big 12 contract is heavily weighted with FOX and that appears to be going bye-bye.

The Big 10 needs to expand a couple more teams that at least broaden their footprint some (Kansas/Colorado). The only homeruns would be Texas/Notre Dame and that's unlikely. The Big 10 already has 4 anchor bluebloods so they'll be safe.

The Big 10 needs to focus on getting the most bang for it's buck regarding expansion teams and let the dust settle on the SEC/TX/OU thing. Then go into media rights negotiations with all information available.
I think the Big 10 comes out of this with a new contract in 2025 that's at least as good as the SEC's if not even a bit better.
As opposed to the SEC being exclusive ESPN, the Big 10 can make their contract a conglomerate of ESPN/FOX/CBS. maybe even NBC.
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I'm trying to find specifics but it's a bit hard to follow given all the partnerships and side deals. I heard it on the radio on my drive in this morning. The conference's deal with the B10 network runs through 2032 but who gets to air those games seems like it's split. From what I found,
awfulannouncing.com

What we know about the new Big Ten rights deal

ESPN, Fox and CBS signed their new deals with the Big Ten last year, but it only took the conference another 13 months to officially announce them. So we know that all three networks will be airing Big Ten games, The ESPN Family of Networks/Fox Sports Group on football and CBS/ESPN/Fox on...
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Fox Sports has partial rights through 2022-2023:
"With Fox Sports in, it means that there’s a new place to watch Big Ten games after ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU and Big Ten Network had aired them dating back to 2007. Now Fox has joined the party through the 2022-23 season."

Everything I'm finding says the Fox deal, signed in 2017, runs for 6 years and expires in the 2022-2023 season. So we should be headed for an open bidding on airing some games via partnership with the B10 network.
 
outofyourmind said:
When reading @fordman84 comments, I'd say it's working
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I know they lose the "We are the only SEC team in Texas" advantage but they gain a lot. The Texas vs. Texas A&M rivalry will be back and bigger than ever. The dead weights (Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, etc.) are gone and now the focus will be on two major teams in Texas similar to Alabama-Auburn, Florida-Florida State, Louisville-Kentucky, etc.

The only sad thing in this move is Oklahoma State. I kind of wish SEC could find a way to drag them in as well to keep that rivalry alive.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm trying to find specifics but it's a bit hard to follow given all the partnerships and side deals. I heard it on the radio on my drive in this morning. The conference's deal with the B10 network runs through 2032 but who gets to air those games seems like it's split. From what I found,
awfulannouncing.com

What we know about the new Big Ten rights deal

ESPN, Fox and CBS signed their new deals with the Big Ten last year, but it only took the conference another 13 months to officially announce them. So we know that all three networks will be airing Big Ten games, The ESPN Family of Networks/Fox Sports Group on football and CBS/ESPN/Fox on...
awfulannouncing.com awfulannouncing.com

Fox Sports has partial rights through 2022-2023:
"With Fox Sports in, it means that there’s a new place to watch Big Ten games after ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU and Big Ten Network had aired them dating back to 2007. Now Fox has joined the party through the 2022-23 season."

Everything I'm finding says the Fox deal, signed in 2017, runs for 6 years and expires in the 2022-2023 season. So we should be headed for an open bidding on airing some games via partnership with the B10 network.
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Yes.

Don't confuse the FOX/ESPN media rights deal with FOX carrying the BTN.

Totally separate deals.

FOX/ESPN trades off who gets choice of the "Game of the Week". FOX, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FS1, FS2 etc would then schedule other games accordingly. BTN got the scraps.
 
Have to agree with the statement that the B12 is dead.

We saw this play out with the SWC. When Texas and A&M bolted, the SWC was dead.

Same will happen to B12 without Texas and OU.
 
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