Texas NIL Bill

[Thiefery]

The coaches and staff are getting paid to do their job. The same way the athletes are getting paid with a free education, free room and board, free equipment, free shoes, free workout gear, state of the art facilities, nutrionists, strength coaches, the opportunity to showcase their talent on a national level to scouts.

If you want to pay the players, let the players pay for their education, let them pay for their housing, let them pay to use the facilities, let them pay for their strength coaches, let them pay for their supplements, let them pay for their airfare and hotel for their games.

A scholarship for an out of state athlete in the state of Michigan is worth $200,000 alone. Not including books, room and board, etc. When you add all of that in -- the scholarship is now worth roughly $300,000 for 4 years. Now add in professional coaching, the strength coaching, the use of state of the art facilities 24/7, 365 days a year, the top of the line equipment, the airfare and hotel rooms, the cost of meals on trips, the list goes on and on. So a 4 year scholarship is now worth in excess of $1,000,000 with all the cost added in.

Since they want to be treated like professionals. These teams should be able to trade these kids to other teams when they are no longer needed or cut them midseason and take away their scholarship if they are not performing up to par. If you want the benefits of being paid, you have to take the downside with it.

lol free room and board is PEANUTS compared to what the players bring in.. lol why not pay coaches the same as they pay other professors and admin?

 

[Wild Turkey]

lol NCAA isn't winning anything.. nobody cares about them.. even your commissioner came out publicly and said they are following the legislations

Let the NCAA take a stand and "eliminate" states like Texas.. it won't end up well for them, just like everything else they've reacted to.

Must suck knowing the SEC commish already is aligning towards Texas.. the REAL power of the SEC.. if GA doesn't follow the same, they are the fucked up ones.. losers.

Sankey is treading very carefully because all his schools are already doing exactly what Texas is and if he gives any power to the NCAA then he risks the entire conference revolting.

Let's be real his end game is to be rid of the NCAA because at that point the two most powerful people in college athletics will be the P2 commissioners. We aren't there but the bus isn't exactly in the slow lane either. The ACC is on borrowed time, the PAC has been neutered and may not survive so the B1G and SEC coming up with a joint plan of how to govern moving forward is fast approaching and Texas is part of the picture but only because they are in the SEC.

Now get in the damn corner we heard enough of your nonsense for one day.

 

[Wild Turkey]

NCAA can't do anything. If the whole hang up is about a pts system for tickets and perks.... lol.

NCAA is basically BEGGING the feds to come intervene.. then you have slapsticks like Saban, BV willingly to speak to the feds about how they need to intervene because of their poor states..

Feds don't care man

No its also about the athletic departments owning and controlling the NIL collectives and paying the kids directly. That isn't what is supposed to happen and that is really what the NCAA wants stopped but it's gone too far now.

The separation between the NIL collectives and the schools is just a paper facade at this point.

 

[Thiefery]

Sankey is treading very carefully because all his schools are already doing exactly what Texas is and if he gives any power to the NCAA then he risks the entire conference revolting.

Let's be real his end game is to be rid of the NCAA because at that point the two most powerful people in college athletics will be the P2 commissioners. We aren't there but the bus isn't exactly in the slow lane either. The ACC is on borrowed time, the PAC has been neutered and may not survive so the B1G and SEC coming up with a joint plan of how to govern moving forward is fast approaching and Texas is part of the picture but only because they are in the SEC.

Not get in the damn corner we heard enough of your nonsense for one day.

Yeah. funny how this topic came up..earlier on Full Ride on XM, they were talking about this.. so everyone knows the power belong to the Commissioners and to an extent the AD depts..

But they said that the commissioners aren't in the mood to work together.. They brought up the PAC/Big12 on how they could have helped each other but instead are going for each others throats. mentioned how the BiG is jealous/feel superior of the SEC despite the TV contract they have.

 

[Thiefery]

No its also about the athletic departments owning and controlling the NIL collectives and paying the kids directly. That isn't what is supposed to happen and that is really what the NCAA wants stopped but it's gone too far now.

The separation between the NIL collectives and the schools is just a paper facade at this point.

they do pay the players directly..for charity works (collectives)

all the other stuff isn't tied with the school.. those are agents finding deals for certain players to endorse..

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

lol NCAA isn't winning anything.. nobody cares about them.. even your commissioner came out publicly and said they are following the legislations

Let the NCAA take a stand and "eliminate" states like Texas.. it won't end up well for them, just like everything else they've reacted to.

Must suck knowing the SEC commish already is aligning towards Texas.. the REAL power of the SEC.. if GA doesn't follow the same, they are the fucked up ones.. losers.

It's funny that you don't get that it doesn't matter if it is the SEC or the NCAA ... if states can dictate what the governing entity does, it's not a good thing.

You guys will continue to lose and continue to think you can get an edge by pushing the envelope. You think it's cute, but it's not. Again, my team and school will be fine, so this isn't sour grapes. It's just an understanding of the shitshow this is going to be if the SEC or the NCAA can't have rules.

You are literally seeking anarchy and chaos as if that is a good thing. You think that somehow that will be to your advantage and you are prepared to fuck up the whole thing just because you think it's how you can win. I'd like to think you are trolling, but you don't seem to be.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I'm not sure the NCAA would win because I can't remember the last time they actually won a lawsuit.

Regardless they aren't getting any advantage because all the other schools are doing exactly what the Texas schools say they are going to do with the exception of giving NIL contributors points that give them special privileges. All the schools are doing the following:

- Creating school-run collectives
- The collectives are paying players
- Big NIL donors get special privileges

The other schools are just pretending through smoke and mirrors that they are in compliance but there isn't a damn one that is. I think in the beginning most didn't even know how to handle NIL and were treading carefully but once situations like aTm's recruiting class two cycles ago happen it took everyone else about 30 days to follow suit.

Honestly, I'm not sure the NCAA really wants a fight on this one because it's already out of control and they have zero shot of being able to fix it or hold people accountable if they tried. This thing is going to end up with athletes entering employee contracts so the schools can cap the NIL amounts and reign in free agency. It will take time for it to happen but I think that is definitely where this is headed and felt that way from the beginning.

For someone who doesn't want a fight, they sure put out some fighting words yesterday. Look, the NCAA has two options. They can officially become irrelevant, or they can fight back and say look you dumbasses, we are your organization that you created of which you are members. We are going to do our job that you said you want us to do. If you don't want us to do the job, fuck off. The new president is going to be feckless like the last. That doesn't mean he will get anywhere ... you can't push a rope ... but it doesn't sound like he's just going to sit there and cash his check.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Looking forward to seeing Texas continue to lose no matter how much money they throw at players.

 

[Thiefery]

Looking forward to seeing Texas continue to lose no matter how much money they throw at players.

says the guy that nobody wants to invite..

 

[Thiefery]

It's funny that you don't get that it doesn't matter if it is the SEC or the NCAA ... if states can dictate what the governing entity does, it's not a good thing.

You guys will continue to lose and continue to think you can get an edge by pushing the envelope. You think it's cute, but it's not. Again, my team and school will be fine, so this isn't sour grapes. It's just an understanding of the shitshow this is going to be if the SEC or the NCAA can't have rules.

You are literally seeking anarchy and chaos as if that is a good thing. You think that somehow that will be to your advantage and you are prepared to fuck up the whole thing just because you think it's how you can win. I'd like to think you are trolling, but you don't seem to be.

I see where the whoa is me crowd is coming from outside the duck guy who i like

 

[Thiefery]

lol @WhosYourDawggy your school didn't get elite til Smart came in with his knowledge of how to work the bag game.. if your school was so solid without it..what happened the prior 40 years?

Now you complaining about Texas for telling the NCAA to fuck off? Wow.. who knew you would have been such an NCAA fan

 

[ELTEXAN]

The coaches and staff are getting paid to do their job. The same way the athletes are getting paid with a free education, free room and board, free equipment, free shoes, free workout gear, state of the art facilities, nutrionists, strength coaches, the opportunity to showcase their talent on a national level to scouts.

If you want to pay the players, let the players pay for their education, let them pay for their housing, let them pay to use the facilities, let them pay for their strength coaches, let them pay for their supplements, let them pay for their airfare and hotel for their games.

A scholarship for an out of state athlete in the state of Michigan is worth $200,000 alone. Not including books, room and board, etc. When you add all of that in -- the scholarship is now worth roughly $300,000 for 4 years. Now add in professional coaching, the strength coaching, the use of state of the art facilities 24/7, 365 days a year, the top of the line equipment, the airfare and hotel rooms, the cost of meals on trips, the list goes on and on. So a 4 year scholarship is now worth in excess of $1,000,000 with all the cost added in.

Since they want to be treated like professionals. These teams should be able to trade these kids to other teams when they are no longer needed or cut them midseason and take away their scholarship if they are not performing up to par. If you want the benefits of being paid, you have to take the downside with it.

Is this dunce still arguing for the monopsony that is the ncaa and stating that “free room and board and classes” is ‘good enough’ compensation in a multi multi billion dollar industry?
Didn’t I destroy all you immoral unamerican dunces decades ago and every time this subject comes up since?

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[michaeljordan_fan]

I see where the whoa is me crowd is coming from outside the duck guy who i like

Your last conference championship was 14 years ago. You won't be winning any in the SEC. Ain't nobody afraid of the Donghorns.

 

[ELTEXAN]

Your last conference championship was 14 years ago. You won't be winning any in the SEC. Ain't nobody afraid of the Donghorns.

TAMU and mizzou joined this overhyped conference and immediately blew it up. Keep humping your media daddy’s leg. No one is scared.

 

[Thiefery]

Your last conference championship was 14 years ago. You won't be winning any in the SEC. Ain't nobody afraid of the Donghorns.

sure..still have a title more recently than you..

 

[Thiefery]

TAMU and mizzou joined this overhyped conference and immediately blew it up. Keep humping your media daddy’s leg. No one is scared.

technically he has no media leg to hump on.. he's an orphan

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

TAMU and mizzou joined this overhyped conference and immediately blew it up. Keep humping your media daddy’s leg. No one is scared.

How many conference titles have those teams that "blew it up" won?

 

[Wild Turkey]

For someone who doesn't want a fight, they sure put out some fighting words yesterday. Look, the NCAA has two options. They can officially become irrelevant, or they can fight back and say look you dumbasses, we are your organization that you created of which you are members. We are going to do our job that you said you want us to do. If you don't want us to do the job, fuck off. The new president is going to be feckless like the last. That doesn't mean he will get anywhere ... you can't push a rope ... but it doesn't sound like he's just going to sit there and cash his check.

I hope they can fight and bring some structure to the madness but I have zero hope they have any kind of chance.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I see where the whoa is me crowd is coming from outside the duck guy who i like

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LOL ... back to back natties, number 1 class this year. You seem to miss that I am not worried about my team. Unlike you Texas folks who like to fuck everything up, I am more concerned about the sport in general.

All those teams are doing so well with the NIL ... have you guys broken into the top 50 yet with all your NIL? I mean ATM spent $20 million for 4 losses and lost half their class.

This is a list of desperate wannabees.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

lol @WhosYourDawggy your school didn't get elite til Smart came in with his knowledge of how to work the bag game.. if your school was so solid without it..what happened the prior 40 years?

Now you complaining about Texas for telling the NCAA to fuck off? Wow.. who knew you would have been such an NCAA fan

Be smarter ... I am not complaining about NIL. You know I am all for players getting paid. What I am criticizing states like Texas for is that you are advocating for anarchy and chaos and think it's a funny thing to do. You don't realize that the same big boys who have won in the past will win in a chaos world. It just won't be as enjoyable to watch.