The Big Ten FUCKED their goose

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
No doubt. That's what good coaches do is find the loopholes. Belicheck did it for years in the NFL, so much so, his assistants who moved on to Head Coaching jobs started using his loopholes against him.

Sucks to have it happen to you, but it was a smart move by Lanning.
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Action may be taken this week . . .


“Oregon coaches exploited a loophole in the rulebook and it could result in in-season action from the NCAA,” Dellenger reported. "Steve Shaw, the NCAA secretary rules editor, told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday that the NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively ‘engaged’ in examining the play for possible action. The Big Ten officiating crew handled the play appropriately, Shaw said, but the rules committee is discussing a way to address the play.”
According to Dellenger, the best solution to this loophole would be adding time back to the clock after such penalties.

"To discourage the action in the Oregon-Ohio State game, any interpretation would likely direct officials to return the game clock to its original time," Dellenger wrote. "Shaw declined to comment on any specifics."
 
cwerph said:
Action may be taken this week . . .


“Oregon coaches exploited a loophole in the rulebook and it could result in in-season action from the NCAA,” Dellenger reported. "Steve Shaw, the NCAA secretary rules editor, told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday that the NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively ‘engaged’ in examining the play for possible action. The Big Ten officiating crew handled the play appropriately, Shaw said, but the rules committee is discussing a way to address the play.”
According to Dellenger, the best solution to this loophole would be adding time back to the clock after such penalties.

"To discourage the action in the Oregon-Ohio State game, any interpretation would likely direct officials to return the game clock to its original time," Dellenger wrote. "Shaw declined to comment on any specifics."
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Kind of wild and obviously unfortunate for us that it took this long for such a ridiculous loophole to exist, but again, can't fault Lanning. He didn't break any rules, and it got them the win.
 
Across The Field said:
Kind of wild and obviously unfortunate for us that it took this long for such a ridiculous loophole to exist, but again, can't fault Lanning. He didn't break any rules, and it got them the win.
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As they say in NASCAR, "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'." I know they didn't break any rule but that was right up there with Lane Kiffin having players roll around on the field like soccer players to stop the clock.

According to Bobby Carpenter, this used to be a 15 yard penalty in college, but they changed it 10-11 years ago to align with the NFL. The problem is, if someone pulled this in the NFL, they would fine the team and if it happened again, they would suspend the coach.
 
cwerph said:
Action may be taken this week . . .


“Oregon coaches exploited a loophole in the rulebook and it could result in in-season action from the NCAA,” Dellenger reported. "Steve Shaw, the NCAA secretary rules editor, told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday that the NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively ‘engaged’ in examining the play for possible action. The Big Ten officiating crew handled the play appropriately, Shaw said, but the rules committee is discussing a way to address the play.”
According to Dellenger, the best solution to this loophole would be adding time back to the clock after such penalties.

"To discourage the action in the Oregon-Ohio State game, any interpretation would likely direct officials to return the game clock to its original time," Dellenger wrote. "Shaw declined to comment on any specifics."
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Yeah -- that is pretty much how these type of loopholes go. You need a perfect storm to get to use it, then once you do, they shut it down.
 
cwerph said:
As they say in NASCAR, "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'." I know they didn't break any rule but that was right up there with Lane Kiffin having players roll around on the field like soccer players to stop the clock.

According to Bobby Carpenter, this used to be a 15 yard penalty in college, but they changed it 10-11 years ago to align with the NFL. The problem is, if someone pulled this in the NFL, they would fine the team and if it happened again, they would suspend the coach.
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They could make it a two tier. If the illegal substitution occurs bc a player running off the field just didn't get off in time then 5 yards but if the player actively participates in the play then 15, automatic first, and time returned to clock (if desired)
 
fishinabarrel said:
They could make it a two tier. If the illegal substitution occurs bc a player running off the field just didn't get off in time then 5 yards but if the player actively participates in the play then 15, automatic first, and time returned to clock (if desired)
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That's what the rule used to be before they changed it. There was the 5 yard, 12 man on the field variety and then there was the 15 yard illegal participation variety. They obviously committed the latter, but Lanning obviously knew it isn't a 15 yarder anymore so that's why he did it.
 
fishinabarrel said:
They could make it a two tier. If the illegal substitution occurs bc a player running off the field just didn't get off in time then 5 yards but if the player actively participates in the play then 15, automatic first, and time returned to clock (if desired)
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You commit a pre-snap penalty on offense late it is a 10 second run off. This could just become a 10 second clock addition
 
Codaxx said:
You commit a pre-snap penalty on offense late it is a 10 second run off. This could just become a 10 second clock addition
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You can decline time run off penalties
 
Codaxx said:
Yes, but why would you?
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You think you have a better chance of stopping a 4th and 2 than a 4th and 7 at the goal line? probably not but its all i got.
 
Garçon, this foie gras tastes like shit!!
 
Across The Field said:
Can you decline false start?
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Why not? Teams decline delay of game penalties all the time when the kicking team is trying to get a better angle for the punt.
 
cwerph said:
Action may be taken this week . . .


“Oregon coaches exploited a loophole in the rulebook and it could result in in-season action from the NCAA,” Dellenger reported. "Steve Shaw, the NCAA secretary rules editor, told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday that the NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively ‘engaged’ in examining the play for possible action. The Big Ten officiating crew handled the play appropriately, Shaw said, but the rules committee is discussing a way to address the play.”
According to Dellenger, the best solution to this loophole would be adding time back to the clock after such penalties.

"To discourage the action in the Oregon-Ohio State game, any interpretation would likely direct officials to return the game clock to its original time," Dellenger wrote. "Shaw declined to comment on any specifics."
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duckboy33 said:
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I remember when the Raiders got screwed over by the tuck rule how pissed I was. It was just a dumb rule that should had been eliminated long before that.

This one, while sucking, was just a smart coaching move. So my emotions are different
 
Tharvot said:
Yup. QB losing his mind on that mad scramble.

The most damning mistake was completely forgetting the clock started after the penalty and the ball was spotted. That's both on the QB and the coaching staff.
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That's called a Dak.
 
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