The entire playoff committee needs to be drawn & disemboweled

Totally this. We can call it P4 or, in reality, the P2. We can fuss about the CFP ranking certain SEC teams in the 22-25 spots just to say the top level SEC teams beat a CFP top 25 team. But these factors do not have any relation to what the ACC is throwing out there on the field. Stanford has gotten their clock cleaned by almost every ACC school, but decides to up and beat 7 win Syracuse and 6 win Louisville. That is some shitty showing. Yeah, I know Vandy beat Alabama, but Alabama has some really quality wins. Clemson has played 7 teams that are 0.500 or worse. And Duke has played 4 teams that are 0.500 or worse, and DAMN, Duke is 7-3.

Now, I wonder since the B1G and SEC in conference schedules are so tough, and the ACC and BIG XII aren't, if they will try to schedule tougher mid majors and no FCS teams in the future.
I am thinking they will let the conferences send their list of participants with some at-large.

14 team tournament, maybe 16

14 teams
SEC - 3 AQs
B1G - 3AQs
ACC - 1AQ
B12 - 1AQ
G5 - 1AQ
5 at-large determined by a poll
Seeding determined by a poll
No committee
No guaranteed seeding for conference champs

16 teams
SEC - 4AQs
B1G - 4AQs
ACC - 2AQs
B12 - 2AQs
G5 - 1AQ
3 at-large determined by a poll
Seeding determined by a poll
No committee
No guaranteed seeding for conference champs
16 has a Conference Championship game problem

If you did this year with the 14:
SEC - ATM/Texas, Bama, UGA - that's what the SEC's formula looks like - I'll go Texas, Bama, UGA
B1G - Ore, tOSU/IU/PSU - I am going to go with Ore, tOSU, PSU
ACC - Miami/SMU - I'll go Miami
B12 - ASU/Colo/BYU - I'll go Colo
G5 - BSU

If you look at the BCS poll the 14 teams tournament would be:

* Means selected by the conference
+ Means at large

Byes:
Oregon *
tOSU *

3 Texas *
4 PSU *
5 Notre Dame +
6 UGA *
7 Bama *
8 Ole Miss +
9 Miami *
10 UTjr +
11 Indiana +
12 SMU +
13 Colo *
14 BSU *
First out ATM/BYU/Clemson

I tried to guess a little what the BCS would be when IU loses and ATM loses:

B1G - 4
SEC - 5
ACC - 2
B12 - 1
G5 - 1
Ind - 1
 
I am thinking they will let the conferences send their list of participants with some at-large.

14 team tournament, maybe 16

14 teams
SEC - 3 AQs
B1G - 3AQs
ACC - 1AQ
B12 - 1AQ
G5 - 1AQ
5 at-large determined by a poll
Seeding determined by a poll
No committee
No guaranteed seeding for conference champs

16 teams
SEC - 4AQs
B1G - 4AQs
ACC - 2AQs
B12 - 2AQs
G5 - 1AQ
3 at-large determined by a poll
Seeding determined by a poll
No committee
No guaranteed seeding for conference champs
16 has a Conference Championship game problem

If you did this year with the 14:
SEC - ATM/Texas, Bama, UGA - that's what the SEC's formula looks like - I'll go Texas, Bama, UGA
B1G - Ore, tOSU/IU/PSU - I am going to go with Ore, tOSU, PSU
ACC - Miami/SMU - I'll go Miami
B12 - ASU/Colo/BYU - I'll go Colo
G5 - BSU

If you look at the BCS poll the 14 teams tournament would be:

* Means selected by the conference
+ Means at large

Byes:
Oregon *
tOSU *

3 Texas *
4 PSU *
5 Notre Dame +
6 UGA *
7 Bama *
8 Ole Miss +
9 Miami *
10 UTjr +
11 Indiana +
12 SMU +
13 Colo *
14 BSU *
First out ATM/BYU/Clemson

I tried to guess a little what the BCS would be when IU loses and ATM loses:

B1G - 4
SEC - 5
ACC - 2
B12 - 1
G5 - 1
Ind - 1
Could it be simplified even more to say that the two CCG teams from the P4's make the playoffs, then 4 at large based on polls? Put the pressure on the conferences to figure out their top two via tiebreakers. And without divisions you are less likely to get an 8-5 wake forest in the CCG and thus AQ'd to the playoffs.

That devalues OOC even more, though.
 
That's my point of that post. I see no reason to ever schedule a difficult OOC opponent if the CFP is going to pull this crap and not look at SOS.

Now, I will give the CFP some leniency since this is the first time they have been looking at 12 teams. The top 4 is usually pretty clear cut between 5-6 teams. Now you have to look at roughly the top 15-20 teams and they are going to need to figure out how to do that. And once all the CCG's are played I think there is a LOT less ambiguity. Doesn't stop us from dissecting it though with nothing else to do :dhd:
Yeah, as far as the old four team playoff was concerned, their headaches came down to just a few teams for the #3 or 4 spot. But we were told “the process”procedure” was to be the same all the way up and down from 1-25.

If that is truly the case, it should only push the headaches down to deciding 10-12 or so. While they may not have aleays gotten the order correct, they’ve gotten the participants correct every year imo. I think they will get it correct at the end if not perfect.
 
As long as Missouri is ranked and inflating $EC S.O.S. Shut the fuck up
haha, now tell me about #25 Illinois and their matching record with a MUCH worse FPI and lower SOS
 
Yeah, as far as the old four team playoff was concerned, their headaches came down to just a few teams for the #3 or 4 spot. But we were told “the process”procedure” was to be the same all the way up and down from 1-25.

If that is truly the case, it should only push the headaches down to deciding 10-12 or so. While they may not have aleays gotten the order correct, they’ve gotten the participants correct every year imo. I think they will get it correct at the end if not perfect.
Yeah but it is easy enough to argue away "this team would be that team" in a 4 team playoffs and figuring out 4 vs 5. But when it is 10, 11, or 12 there is more wiggle room for asking if they could REALLY beat the 13, 14, or 15 team.
 
Tennessee has a stronger FPI than either Miami or Indiana. Just sayin’…
 
Tennessee has a stronger FPI than either Miami or Indiana. Just sayin’…
There are youth flag football teams that have a harder FPI than Indiana.
 
Are we talking about ESPN's garbage FPI ranking?

The same one that has Auburn, Florida & Oklahoma right outside of the top 25? and USC #16
Calm down, Bucknut. tOSU avoids being upset, and their position is secure.
 
Calm down, Bucknut. tOSU avoids being upset, and their position is secure.

corn cob GIF
 
What happens when all this happens?

Ole Miss loses to Florida
aTm loses to Auburn
Indiana loses to Ohio St.
Penn State loses to Minnesota
Notre Dame loses to Southern Cal
Texas loses to aTm
 
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