The entire playoff committee needs to be drawn & disemboweled

[psaboy]

What if the Nebraska game was any gauge...

Then IU wins by 20+

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I look at like this. Texas Georgia was a closer played game than Ole Miss Georgia.
Total yards were separated by 26 yards in Texas game, but you beat that ass
Ole Miss out-gained Georgia by 152 yards, but you think Georgia is better. That doesn’t make much sense. I didn’t say anything about Texas being above Georgia. I tend to be rational about these things

I am being totally rational. H2H doesn't work when you are deciding who should be ahead in a group of tied teams. Again, you want Ole Miss ahead of us, but not Tenn ahead of Bama. Explain that.

I have us ahead of Ole Miss because our body of work is better. The same reason you would put Bama in front of Tenn.

If you read my posts, I readily acknowledged that Ole Miss kicked our ass. I don't think you are being rational to use total yards to indicate our game was close. We dominated your OL and your QB, just like OM did to us, and for that reason we were on a short field all day long. That's why the yards were close. It didn't have anything to do with the game being close, IMO.

 

[Collegefbfan]

I am being totally rational. H2H doesn't work when you are deciding who should be ahead in a group of tied teams. Again, you want Ole Miss ahead of us, but not Tenn ahead of Bama. Explain that.

I have us ahead of Ole Miss because our body of work is better. The same reason you would put Bama in front of Tenn.

If you read my posts, I readily acknowledged that Ole Miss kicked our ass. I don't think you are being rational to use total yards to indicate our game was close. We dominated your OL and your QB, just like OM did to us, and for that reason we were on a short field all day long. That's why the yards were close. It didn't have anything to do with the game being close, IMO.

I emailed one of the "computer guys" that was part of the BCS. I asked him about this very thing. What should be done when trying to see where teams should be ranked when they are tied in this manner. His reply: Body of work.

 

[Deep Creek]

I know it's one metric and it's not definitive, etc. I've looked at a lot of metrics, there's some inconsistencies but I don't see bias towards a conference or towards certain brands.

Unless it is programmed in or in the formula, I don't think we'd see any of it for computer generated metrics. That's a human bias.

 

[Collegefbfan]

Unless it is programmed in or in the formula, I don't think we'd see any of it for computer generated metrics. That's a human bias.

And it exists. The first rankings last season had Michigan undefeated and ranked 4th. The first rankings this season had Indiana undefeated and ranked 8th. Up to that point, both teams' strength of schedule was about the same.

 

[Deep Creek]

Then IU wins by 20+

UTEP > Indiana

 

[Deep Creek]

And it exists. The first rankings last season had Michigan undefeated and ranked 4th. The first rankings this season had Indiana undefeated and ranked 8th. Up to that point, both teams' strength of schedule was about the same.

Conclusion: Indiana will win a natty easier than Michigan.

 

[fordman84]

Unless it is programmed in or in the formula, I don't think we'd see any of it for computer generated metrics. That's a human bias.

I don't think there is a conference bias, I think there definitely is a program bias.

 

[Deep Creek]

I don't think there is a conference bias, I think there definitely is a program bias.

I do too when it comes to any type of human poll. AP, CFP, Coaches Poll, etc. There shouldn't be one in a computer generated one...unless the programmer put one in there. Or if the programmer used specific data slanted toward certain programs in the formula.

 

[fordman84]

I do too when it comes to any type of human poll. AP, CFP, Coaches Poll, etc. There shouldn't be one in a computer generated one...unless the programmer put one in there. Or if the programmer used specific data slanted toward certain programs in the formula.

Or if the programmer puts one of those human polls as a factor in their calculation. That's the only other way, and most common way, to put bias into it.

 

[psaboy]

UTEP > Indiana

I don't follow, please xsplain

 

[Deep Creek]

I don't follow, please xsplain

That's a website where you type in a two teams and it goes through a satirical justification process to prove why a team that is weaker is better than a good team. I used my two win team and undefeated Indiana.

 

[fordman84]

That's a website where you type in a two teams and it goes through a satirical justification process to prove why a team that is weaker is better than a good team. I used my two win team and undefeated Indiana.

If you put in a winless team, would your computer just start smoking and the interwebs crash?

 

[duckboy33]

And it exists. The first rankings last season had Michigan undefeated and ranked 4th. The first rankings this season had Indiana undefeated and ranked 8th. Up to that point, both teams' strength of schedule was about the same.

Comparing different seasons is problematic. Indiana is ranked where they should be IMO.

 

[Deep Creek]

If you put in a winless team, would your computer just start smoking and the interwebs crash?

Haven't even tried. They'd go deeper into team x beat a common opponent more than team y. That's what happened at the end of my example.

 

[Codaxx]

I am being totally rational. H2H doesn't work when you are deciding who should be ahead in a group of tied teams. Again, you want Ole Miss ahead of us, but not Tenn ahead of Bama. Explain that.

I have us ahead of Ole Miss because our body of work is better. The same reason you would put Bama in front of Tenn.

If you read my posts, I readily acknowledged that Ole Miss kicked our ass. I don't think you are being rational to use total yards to indicate our game was close. We dominated your OL and your QB, just like OM did to us, and for that reason we were on a short field all day long. That's why the yards were close. It didn't have anything to do with the game being close, IMO.

You had Georgia ahead of Ole Miss. I disagreed. I pointed out the recency of the game and the lopsided total yards stats.

You had Bama ahead of Georgia. I agreed

You had Tenn below Georgia. I agreed
Hope that clears it up..

As to the Texas game. PFF credited the Texas OL with 2 sacks. As for Quinn, I said he is amazingly inconsistent. Bad Quinn is just a self-sacking disaster. Watch the highlights from the Arkansas game and it will be clear. Never seen a Qb with worse pocket awareness. It can be bizarre. Not saying the OL had a good day, but damn Quinn was bad. Great example is the sack fumble that led to the 1st Georgia TD. Georgia left the slant uncovered. Easy first down. Quinn holds the ball for no reason and takes a sack. Just brutal

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

You had Georgia ahead of Ole Miss. I disagreed. I pointed out the recency of the game and the lopsided total yards stats.

You had Bama ahead of Georgia. I agreed

You had Tenn below Georgia. I agreed
Hope that clears it up..

As to the Texas game. PFF credited the Texas OL with 2 sacks. As for Quinn, I said he is amazingly inconsistent. Bad Quinn is just a self-sacking disaster. Watch the highlights from the Arkansas game and it will be clear. Never seen a Qb with worse pocket awareness. It can be bizarre. Not saying the OL had a good day, but damn Quinn was bad. Great example is the sack fumble that led to the 1st Georgia TD. Georgia left the slant uncovered. Easy first down. Quinn holds the ball for no reason and takes a sack. Just brutal

We can disagree on H2H v. Body of Work. You seem to want to pick when to use H2H sometimes, body of work others. I try to be consistent.

The lopsided yards stats to try and make OM v. UGA worse than UGA v. TEX is just absurd. C'mon, you have to know that. Both games were total ass whippings. You are seriously discounting our game against you because we kept forcing turnovers that gave us short fields. That makes zero sense.

 

[Codaxx]

We can disagree on H2H v. Body of Work. You seem to want to pick when to use H2H sometimes, body of work others. I try to be consistent.

The lopsided yards stats to try and make OM v. UGA worse than UGA v. TEX is just absurd. C'mon, you have to know that. Both games were total ass whippings. You are seriously discounting our game against you because we kept forcing turnovers that gave us short fields. That makes zero sense.

Just my opinion. Both defenses dominated in Austin. Game turned on where teams made turnovers. Both offenses were straight bad. Neither QB wants that tape coming out.

Ole Miss defense dominated Georgia. The Ole Miss offense handled the Georgia defense. That to me was the difference.

 

[Peter Gozintite]

I feel like the thread itile is a little over the top. I mean drawn AND disemboweled? This is an either or scenario to me.

 

[Peter Gozintite]

If you don't want to be on the outside looking in, take care of business.

Every year mbb trams cry like babies for not making the 68? (With 16 seed play ins)

I want to tell every single one of them to fuck off individually. We could always just pack their stadiums and I can a bunch at once too. But they should all fuck off and an opportunity to get skull drug at some point in the tourney.

If you don't make the 12 teams, you would have had zero shot at beating a #4 and up, and play an extra game over the 1 and 2.