The official Michigan Owns Ohio State thread

[osubuckeye89]

It's beyond pathetic that he thinks michigan was "broken" because they had a shitty coach (who, oddly enough, has the same amount of bowl wins as Harbaugh despite being there for less than half the time Harbs has been there LOLOL)

Michigan's 2015 defense had NINE major contributors who ended up getting drafted. Pure comedy that he's acting like Harbaugh molded a makeshift squad of random bums into a 10 win team.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Penn State under Franklin
Alabama under Saban
Clemson under Dabo
Ohio State under Urban
Michigan State under Dantonio

Off the top of my head, these coaches all had at least the same amount of success early as Harbaugh, if not more.

Urban took over a 6-7 team and took them to 12-0 but according to boy genius over here "THATS DIFFERENT!"

 

[Across The Field]

Urban took over a 6-7 team and took them to 12-0 but according to boy genius over here "THATS DIFFERENT!"

"Well why is it different?"

"Because it's devastating to the idiotic narrative I'm trying to push!"

 

[osubuckeye89]

"Well why is it different?"

"Because it's devastating to the idiotic narrative I'm trying to push!"

Looks like 15 total major contributors from that 2015 Michigan team were drafted from my count. Cupboard was totally bare though they might has well had been Eastern Michigan.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Penn State under Franklin
Alabama under Saban
Clemson under Dabo
Ohio State under Urban
Michigan State under Dantonio

Off the top of my head, these coaches all had at least the same amount of success early as Harbaugh, if not more.

But to turn a team into a legit competition is an entirely different thing. Franklin sucks. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Ohio state was in excellent shape when urban took over. And Michigan state took 4 seasons to still get things going.

 

[Voltaire]

Urban took over a 6-7 team and took them to 12-0 but according to boy genius over here "THATS DIFFERENT!"

Urban is a good college coach and ohio state is an excellent program. 6-7 was an odd year for ohio state.

My objective point of view on college football teams.

Tier One:
Alabama

Tier Two - in program order
Georgia - soon to join Alabama in tier one
ohio state
Clemson
Michigan

We (Michigan) does not own ohio state, but we are on the same level. A three-peat is in order.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Brady Hoke was just a shitty coach. Harbaugh inherited plenty of talent, you want to act like he was rolling out a MAC team though. Hilarious.

No. I act like he held enough talent to turn Michigan into one of the better teams in the league. And he did.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

It's beyond pathetic that he thinks michigan was "broken" because they had a shitty coach (who, oddly enough, has the same amount of bowl wins as Harbaugh despite being there for less than half the time Harbs has been there LOLOL)

So now the metric is bowl wins? Even between coaches it's a completely different era. Good players routinely don't participate anymore.

 

[osubuckeye89]

So now the metric is bowl wins? Even between coaches it's a completely different era. Good players routinely don't participate anymore.

Yea that's why Harbaugh is constantly road kill in bowls.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Yea that's why Harbaugh is constantly road kill in bowls.

We have a long storied history of not caring about bowl games.

 

[osubuckeye89]

We have a long storied history of not caring about bowl games.

Lol funny how only the losing team always "didn't care".

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Lol funny how only the losing team always "didn't care".

Kind of like how the losing team talks about bowl wins as a coping mechanism....

 

[Across The Field]

But to turn a team into a legit competition is an entirely different thing. Franklin sucks. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Ohio state was in excellent shape when urban took over. And Michigan state took 4 seasons to still get things going.

Franklin is a top 10-15 coach and doesn't suck.

Ohio State was not in excellent shape. They had a bowl ban and 3 years of scholarship reductions and probation. Harbaugh had it much easier coming into michigan.

MSU averaged under 5 wins a year before Dantonio got there. They got 16 in his first two seasons. He also won a conference title in 4 years compared to Harbaugh's 7.

Stop crying.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

Yep if we go 11-1/2 and win the Rose Bowl it's see as a big disappointment.

Michigan would love that.

That's the difference between the 2 programs at the moment.

That and, one team hasn’t beaten the other since before the pandemic

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Franklin is a top 10-15 coach and doesn't suck.

Ohio State was not in excellent shape. They had a bowl ban and 3 years of scholarship reductions and probation. Harbaugh had it much easier coming into michigan.

MSU averaged under 5 wins a year before Dantonio got there. They got 16 in his first two seasons. He also won a conference title in 4 years compared to Harbaugh's 7.

Stop crying.

OSU not in great shape. lol. OK. Ohio Stat had a 1 year bowl ban 4 years before Harbaugh would join Michigan and a roster filled with top 100 talent almost top to bottom.

Dantonio improved Michigan state. But again, harbaugh should have won the conference in year 2. But it took Dantonio what, 7/8 years to reach the playoff? That's my point. If you have to rebuild a program it takes a while.

 

[osubuckeye89]

OSU not in great shape. lol. OK. Ohio Stat had a 1 year bowl ban 4 years before Harbaugh would join Michigan and a roster filled with top 100 talent almost top to bottom.

Dantonio improved Michigan state. But again, harbaugh should have won the conference in year 2. But it took Dantonio what, 7/8 years to reach the playoff? That's my point. If you have to rebuild a program it takes a while.

What? lol. Are you really going to sit here and pretend like Tressel was recruiting at the level of Urban and Day?

The 2010 recruiting class was 25th and the 2011 was 11th. That's way closer to what Harbaugh recruits now than what Urban and Day produce.

 

[Across The Field]

OSU not in great shape. lol. OK. Ohio Stat had a 1 year bowl ban 4 years before Harbaugh would join Michigan and a roster filled with top 100 talent almost top to bottom.

Dantonio improved Michigan state. But again, harbaugh should have won the conference in year 2. But it took Dantonio what, 7/8 years to reach the playoff? That's my point. If you have to rebuild a program it takes a while.

If he should have he would have. Still can't believe you're so upset about a call that was proven to be right all these years later.

Also OSU definitely did not have a roster "filled with top 100 talent" when Urban got there. Tress recruited fine but it was a far cry from what it is now. Back then we routinely had a good amount more guys ranked outside the top 250 than in it. Notice that when Urban came in, he didn't complain about the shape of the program, he just got to work and fired up recruiting like a mad man and got us a title in little time.

 

[Across The Field]

What? lol. Are you really going to sit here and pretend like Tressel was recruiting at the level of Urban and Day?

The 2010 recruiting class was 25th and the 2011 was 11th. That's way closer to what Harbaugh recruits now than what Urban and Day produce.

Harbaugh had top 10 classes his 2nd and 3rd year on the job, yet it took him the better part of a decade to win a game that meant anything lol

 

[osubuckeye89]

Harbaugh had top 10 classes his 2nd and 3rd year on the job, yet it took him the better part of a decade to win a game that meant anything lol

Harbaugh does better with lower rated players, seems like he has a huge bust rate with higher rated guys.

 

[Knight&Day]

The funny part is them acting like they had a national title stolen from them

Clemson woulda ripped Michigan's ass more than they did us. That's IF Michigan woulda even beat Wisconsin in the B1G title game.

The refs did kinda fuck UM in 2016 vs OHST with not calling an early DPI on 3rd down and several other calls.

Clem had a bad habit of playing to the other team’s level in 2016. They were very beatable. A Clem-UM game would’ve likely been much closer than 31-0.