Thee PAC 12, Big 10, and ACC (Alliance) are Dividing Up tOrphaned 8 As We Plorst.

outofyourmind said:
We sucked balls.
It was Boo's 2nd season

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He handed Stoops a good roster to work with though.
 
Deep Creek said:
Awe come on. Everyone wants to watch the orphan 8! They'll mortgage their kids future to watch them.
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It's not just about watching those teams though. If the Pac expanded into the Central Time Zone in the Des Moines, Kansas City, Oklahoma City and West Texas markets, there would be a bunch of folks (in football watchin' states) watching not only their teams play but watching the current Pac teams with a newfound interest too. There may not be as many people in those four markets as the Western markets, but they are all solid college football markets.
 
Red_Alert said:
He handed Stoops a good roster to work with though.
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The guy might have been one of the best recruiters ever. I think you might agree.
He just had trouble coaching it.

With his trajectory, he would have won 7 his next year, just like Bob did.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Saying NIL had nothing to to do with it is bullshit.

No one available save ND brings the money needed to expand the pot yet people (you included) are still talking about expansion. That’s the reality here. Please stop acting like the ACC adding 1 more team is some momentous thing that is impossible.
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I didn’t say it was impossible just not economically smart with an iron clad contract in place until 2036. The ACC can’t even offer more years for more money because it would be suicidal.

NIL had absolutely nothing to do with it. You think OU and UT players would get less endorsements playing in the Big 12 than the SEC? You think the administrations we’re thinking about how much money was going into players pockets or their own?

The move is about the arms race and keeping up and competing with SEC programs on the recruiting field. There’s plenty of endorsement money regardless of what conference they are in.
 
78Cyclones said:
It's not just about watching those teams though. If the Pac expanded into the Central Time Zone in the Des Moines, Kansas City, Oklahoma City and West Texas markets, there would be a bunch of folks (in football watchin' states) watching not only their teams play but watching the current Pac teams with a newfound interest too. There may not be as many people in those four markets as the Western markets, but they are all solid college football markets.
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Gimme some Okie Jr/UCLA kickoff at 10pm Central. I'm all in.
 
Red_Alert said:
Gimme some Okie Jr/UCLA kickoff at 10pm Central. I'm all in.
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And the 2:30 Central Kickoff @ Stillwater, @ Lubbock or @ Ames would give UCLA better exposure than they normally get for a conference game. UCLA @ Kansas would be awesome in Basketball! :)
 
Wild Turkey said:
I didn’t say it was impossible just not economically smart with an iron clad contract in place until 2036. The ACC can’t even offer more years for more money because it would be suicidal.

NIL had absolutely nothing to do with it. You think OU and UT players would get less endorsements playing in the Big 12 than the SEC? You think the administrations we’re thinking about how much money was going into players pockets or their own?

The move is about the arms race and keeping up and competing with SEC programs on the recruiting field. There’s plenty of endorsement money regardless of what conference they are in.
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I’m sure something could be negotiated with the ACC and the ESPN. Especially if ESPN wants the B12 to fold quicker to get UT/OU to the sec ASAP. It’s really not economically great (as it seems) to expand for the pac too but you are promoting it.

Of course those administrators care about their pockets.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I’m sure something could be negotiated with the ACC and the ESPN. Especially if ESPN wants the B12 to fold quicker to get UT/OU to the sec ASAP. It’s really not economically great (as it seems) to expand for the pac too but you are promoting it.

Of course those administrators care about their pockets.
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The problem with working something out is that it’s a 15 year commitment so it would take 20 million a year for 15 years or 300 million total over the life of the contract to make it work.

300 million.

Now what do you think happens?
 
So have the scrub “P5” conferences officially announced their desperation move against the big bad SEC yet or nah?
 
CoalTrain said:
So have the scrub “P5” conferences officially announced their desperation move against the big bad SEC yet or nah?
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Per last week there was supposed to be an official announcement "As soon as this week".

Likely click-bait from a tweeter 'expert' though.
 
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78Cyclones said:
It's not just about watching those teams though. If the Pac expanded into the Central Time Zone in the Des Moines, Kansas City, Oklahoma City and West Texas markets, there would be a bunch of folks (in football watchin' states) watching not only their teams play but watching the current Pac teams with a newfound interest too. There may not be as many people in those four markets as the Western markets, but they are all solid college football markets.
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I can see that. But I'm afraid what the networks and/or streaming folks are willing to pay the "good" money for are the matchups that are more attractive "everywhere"...which means there needs to be a more attractive brand playing. I'd say there are really only these categories.

Marquee brand vs Marquee brand - HUGE viewership
Marquee brand vs non Marquee brand but decent team - Not HUGE but enough viewership to pay up for
Non Marquee brand but decent team vs Non Marquee brand but decent team - Decent viewership
Marquee brand vs Non Marquee brand but NOT a good team - Again, Decent Viewership
All the others are only worth discounted offerings.

This is kind "duh" as my grandkids say, but I'll say it anyway. The more inventory a conference has in the top three categories, the larger the financial offering. If it more heavily weighted in the bottom categories, the less. If it is only us die hard CFB fans that are watching, that doesn't move the needle enough for those entities to fork over large amounts of cash. The K-State/USC game is much more likely to draw the eye of a casual B1G fan in Zanesville, Ohio. K-State/Arizona, not so much.

It sure looks like the more "marquee/brand" names a conference has the better the financial offering will be. And not just to the PAC. The freight payers want an inventory of a lot of those 4 million viewer games that @WhosYourDawggy posted the article about.

Hell, I hope I'm wrong but it sure looks like that's the way it is going.
 
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