USC and UCLA planning to leave for B10 by 2024!

outofyourmind said:
Would that be on a Thursday Night ???
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The only revenue draw the Pac has (and has had) is they have the only pool to draw on for late games. At least at the major level.

I don't know anyone that likes it, but late night games all season and off day/hour rivalry games/CCG's create more revenue for the conference so they aren't going anywhere.
 
Deep Creek said:
Probably better than those that will be in the Big 12. I ain’t a very good Googler but the only natty I recall from them is BYU’s controversial one in the ‘80s. Maybe TCU’s in the Sammy Baugh days? Did WVU have any?
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Dude... you are forgetting UCF's title in 2018 awarded by Disney and Walmart!
 
@OlyDuck

Maybe you will get your wish:

Note: I don't think this guy knows what he is talking about but I thought I would post for your enjoyment.
 
Wizardhawk said:
Why no CCG?

The rules were changed years ago to allow conf with less than 12 to have a CCG of their top 2 teams provided they have a round robin schedule. Why would the Pac10 play a round robin and forgo that CCG?

The rule was changed after the Big 12 had co-champions in '14? I think and it cost them consideration for the playoffs. It would be dumb for the Pac to ignore having one.
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And it's stupid. You have a CCG that is a re-match every year and one team potentially misses out on a conference championship because they lost the wrong game.

Additionally, once cfp expands, the PAC champ will be in with or without a ccg.
 
Goldbug said:
You're desperate to keep what little you can salvage out of a weak Big 12. We get it. Time zones, culture, eyeballs, whatever are irrelevant when you're trying to survive and patch something together to save your skin. When Oklahoma State is likely the best football program left in a conference the handwriting is on the wall and the future is bleak when you're up against teams that will be raking in nearly twice as much as West Virginia can hope for. I'd probably be acting the same way you are if it was Oklahoma in your situation.
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Well I’m also using common sense in seeing the B12 losing Kansas and Oklahoma State won’t kill them, plus the likelihood that happens is much smaller then say UO or Udub getting poached by the B10 or the ACC losing 6 plus schools to both the P2. But again, I’m using common sense.
 
trojanfan12 said:
And it's stupid. You have a CCG that is a re-match every year and one team potentially misses out on a conference championship because they lost the wrong game.

Additionally, once cfp expands, the PAC champ will be in with or without a ccg.
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When will it expand? It turns into the Pac10 in a couple of years.

They will be a weakened conf with less SoS in conf. The winner will need every chance it can get to state their case.

Do I like it? No. But this is part of the new paradigm.
 
Wizardhawk said:
When will it expand? It turns into the Pac10 in a couple of years.

They will be a weakened conf with less SoS in conf. The winner will need every chance it can get to state their case.

Do I like it? No. But this is part of the new paradigm.
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Not sure when it's supposed to happen, but it seems like it will also be in a couple of years or not long after.

The problem is that it would seem to be more likely that it would hurt their case because when you have 2 closely matched teams play each other twice, the most likely outcome is that they split those games.

Washington and Oregon play a regular season game, Oregon wins. Season ends, Oregon is 9-0, Washington is 8-1.

Washington wins the re-match costing Oregon a cfp shot but they don't get in either.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Not sure when it's supposed to happen, but it seems like it will also be in a couple of years or not long after.

The problem is that it would seem to be more likely that it would hurt their case because when you have 2 closely matched teams play each other twice, the most likely outcome is that they split those games.

Washington and Oregon play a regular season game, Oregon wins. Season ends, Oregon is 9-0, Washington is 8-1.

Washington wins the re-match costing Oregon a cfp shot but they don't get in either.
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I'd sooner wager the B1G and sec split off and create their own league (with NFL type season and post season) before CFP expansion allows a non pac champ to the dance(if at all regardless)
 
trojanfan12 said:
Not sure when it's supposed to happen, but it seems like it will also be in a couple of years or not long after.

The problem is that it would seem to be more likely that it would hurt their case because when you have 2 closely matched teams play each other twice, the most likely outcome is that they split those games.

Washington and Oregon play a regular season game, Oregon wins. Season ends, Oregon is 9-0, Washington is 8-1.

Washington wins the re-match costing Oregon a cfp shot but they don't get in either.
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Of course it could end with a CCG taking out the team in the best position before it, but again that rule was added after the Big 12 got left out and was basically penalized for not having the 13th game while other conferences did.

In your example I already lost my load before the end of that CCG with UW winning so it's still well worth it. :becky:
 
Goldbug said:
You're desperate to keep what little you can salvage out of a weak Big 12. We get it. Time zones, culture, eyeballs, whatever are irrelevant when you're trying to survive and patch something together to save your skin. When Oklahoma State is likely the best football program left in a conference the handwriting is on the wall and the future is bleak when you're up against teams that will be raking in nearly twice as much as West Virginia can hope for. I'd probably be acting the same way you are if it was Oklahoma in your situation.
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As true as that may be, I am not convinced that is good for college football in the long run.
 
Volbound1700 said:
@OlyDuck

Maybe you will get your wish:

Note: I don't think this guy knows what he is talking about but I thought I would post for your enjoyment.
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in all of the twitterverse of college football writers and talking heads and even through google this is the only person talking about bankruptcy. is it possible? sure but im not holding this guy too serious
 
trojanfan12 said:
If the PAC wants to try to remain a conference and isn't going to merge with the Big 12, which I think is a mistake by both conferences, then it seems SDSU and BYU should be added. SDSU keeps a footprint in SoCal. BYU has been treated as something of a de facto P5 opponent by the P5 conferences for years anyway and brings a rivalry game with Utah.

Outside of that, it seems they'd have go back to a 10 team conference and a round robin 9 game schedule with no CCG.
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I don’t see BYU jumping ship from the Big 12 right after they joined. Plus I imagine they want a pipeline into Texas recruiting.
 
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