tOfficial PAC-12 Thread

trojanfan12 said:
Under normal circumstances, I'd agree. These circumstances are far from normal.
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Eh, not to me. They voluntarily opted out, problem with today’s athletics is these athletes are never forced to be responsible for their actions then we end up where we are at with the players movement.
 
trojanfan12 said:
I can't speak to the B1G, but the PAC's biggest issue apparently was states with PAC teams not being able to open things up as early. The way the thing spread, the western states were hit last. The California schools just got approval from the state to have gatherings of more than 12.

I will say though, what the B1G and PAC did wrong that the other 3 conferences didn't, was cancelling their seasons rather than postponing.

It seems like a small difference, but it really was pretty big. The SEC, ACC and Big 12 schools were able to continue preparing for a season, while the B1G and PAC schools couldn't. That's why they are having to start their seasons later.
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Where to start ... it hit Oregon first ... that was the first place hit. NY got hit hardest due to density and travel hub, but everyone got hit about the same time. This idea that it moved it's way west is not factual. It's easy to look up.

The PAC never thought the B1G would go back. They hadn't even reached out to the states to see if they could get exceptions and got them within a week. You commissioner should be fired on the spot and made to pay back his bonus. They didn't reach out to the states until the B1G announced they were going play. Let that sink in. Someone who really wants to play would have been on the phone every day with local politicians.

You are correct on what they did wrong was cancelling too early. Everyone has been saying that since the start. The B1G and PAC simply thought they would lead and everyone would follow. They don't know shit about southern football, obviously. And no one is saying that's a small difference .... it's a huge difference. Nothing really changed from a health standpoint in the 40 days. The SEC was rapid testing, and the myocarditis BS was called out the day they cancelled. Nationally, on Twitter. Then the PAC compounded it by not being ready when the B1G was.

I'm glad you are playing. Said it before ... CFB is better with good west coast football. You just need some new leaders, ffs.
 
wazzu31 said:
If that is the case then are you cool with a G5 school getting into the playoff? Texas and Oklahoma are playing a G5 conference this year, and you can’t compare the ACC to what the Big 12 has done to start the season. Unless you are saying those games have an asterisk next to them because of Covid which goes to my point.

And I don’t give two cents about the Pac 12, I hope every team besides Washington State loses every game.
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sarcastic samantha bee GIF

How will UT/ou ever celebrate a championship without support from a wazzu fan???
 
wazzu31 said:
Eh, not to me. They voluntarily opted out, problem with today’s athletics is these athletes are never forced to be responsible for their actions then we end up where we are at with the players movement.
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dude your such a fucking crybaby
 
Thiefery said:
dude your such a fucking crybaby
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How is that crying? A statement was made, I explained why I disagreed. I get conversations aren’t a strong suit for you but that is how they go.
 
Thiefery said:
sarcastic samantha bee GIF

How will UT/ou ever celebrate a championship without support from a wazzu fan???
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Obviously enough to make you spend your energy in replying with a gif that has nothing to do with what I said.
 
wazzu31 said:
Eh, not to me. They voluntarily opted out, problem with today’s athletics is these athletes are never forced to be responsible for their actions then we end up where we are at with the players movement.
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Dude just stop. This is unlike anything that's happened to cfb.

They opted out because they were told there would be no season by the conference they play in. Then the conference changed it's mind.

That's not them not being responsible. They made a decision based on the info they were given by the very people who get to decide of they can play or not.

Then those same people, changed the info.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Where to start ... it hit Oregon first ... that was the first place hit. NY got hit hardest due to density and travel hub, but everyone got hit about the same time. This idea that it moved it's way west is not factual. It's easy to look up.
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You're right it is easy to look up. California was one of the last states where things reached lockdown level. The East and Southeast were hit with it before we were as far as the numbers getting bad.

In fact, for awhile, it was looking like California wasn't going to be hit that hard. Then the numbers started spiking dramatically.

I live here, I know exactly what has happened and when things started getting bad here.

The PAC wasn't ready when the B1G was because they couldn't get the approval from the state, that has nothing to do with the schools or the conference. Like I said, the California schools, which is 1/3 of the conference literally just got approval to be able to have enough players to actually have real practices.

Not sure where you get the idea that this has been the same for all conferences.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Dude just stop. This is unlike anything that's happened to cfb.

They opted out because they were told there would be no season by the conference they play in. Then the conference changed it's mind.

That's not them not being responsible. They made a decision based on the info they were given by the very people who get to decide of they can play or not.

Then those same people, changed the info.
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How though? The kids that opted out because the season weren’t going to be played transferred. The other portion that opted out was because they set their sights on the NFL. I may be wrong but what Pac 12 players opted out after the season what “cancelled” opted out because of Covid?
 
wazzu31 said:
How though? The kids that opted out because the season weren’t going to be played transferred. The other portion that opted out was because they set their sights on the NFL. I may be wrong but what Pac 12 players opted out after the season what “cancelled” opted out because of Covid?
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I don't know of any that opted out because of Covid. USC only had a couple of players opt out and they did so because they would have declared for the NFL after the season. This final season would have been their preparation for the NFL Draft. They were told that they no longer had that option or that, at best, they might have a 6 game season in the spring (and most were very skeptical about that happening).

Ya know what else is in the spring? The NFL combine and draft. So they decided they may as well just opt out and prepare for the NFL combine rather than be playing a meaningless 6 game season in college and have to miss the combine.

Now, the very people who told them that there would be no season, have changed their minds. So they have the opportunity to prepare for the combine in the way they had intended to before the lockdown.

Like I said, under normal circumstances, I would be 100% in agreement with you on this. But these are not normal circumstances.

This isn't one of those cases where some kid declared for the draft, then found out he wasn't going to get drafted as high as he thought and wants to come back. These kids were told they weren't going to have a season.

And ftr, I'm not speaking just about USC players. To my knowledge, USC hasn't had a player say they want to return.
 
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trojanfan12 said:
I don't know of any that opted out because of Covid. USC only had a couple of players opt out and they did so because they would have declared for the NFL after the season. This final season would have been their preparation for the NFL Draft. They were told that they no longer had that option or that, at best, they might have a 6 game season in the spring (and most were very skeptical about that happening).

Ya know what else is in the spring? The NFL combine and draft. So they decided they may as well just opt out and prepare for the NFL combine rather than be playing a meaningless 6 game season in college and have to miss the combine.

Now, the very people who told them that there would be no season, have changed their minds. So they have the opportunity to prepare for the combine in the way they had intended to before the lockdown.

Like I said, under normal circumstances, I would be 100% in agreement with you on this. But these are not normal circumstances.

This isn't one of those cases where some kid declared for the draft, then found out he wasn't going to get drafted as high as he thought and wants to come back. These kids were told they weren't going to have a season.

And ftr, I'm not speaking just about USC players. To my knowledge, USC hasn't had a player say they want to return.
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Eh, we won’t agree on this. I am actually cool with kids who don’t get drafted coming back because of they had a predator agent. You’re right though, these aren’t normal times and the NCAA has already granted all of them and extra year of eligibility so no harm in done to the student athletes if they are not allowed to come back.
 
WOW at NOON EST?!?!?!


 
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