Good lord -- does everything have to be spelled out for you. I'm the one who actually said, the only way Nebraska would ever be able to recruit like the elite programs is if they physically moved their campus to one of the talent rich states. I didn't realize it needed to be spelled out that you have to find the right coach to go along with it.
As I pointed out. You do not have to recruit the Deep South to get a line. You just have to be good and a tiny bit lucky like Bama got with Tua when essentially any other period in history he would’ve been a Pac 12 QB.
And what I am saying is that isn’t true. There are plenty of recruits to go around unless you count Florida as Deep South. Texas, California and the LDS community more than are equal to the Deep South. Problem is the coaching out west and dedication to winning blows. The second anyone not named SC proves they are a decent coach they get poached because of money. David Shaw and Wittingham are the only consistent football guys on west coast. One is still a coach because he is an average at best coach who happens to have the right skin pigment and the other can’t ever recruit a FBS QB.
1. "Tiny bit lucky" ... really? Bama has been a recruiting machine since Saban got there. Something like 8 straight no. 1 classes. That ain't luck. Bama has been one of the top 2 or 3 blue bloods of all time. There is no luck with recruiting. You either know how to build a recruiting machine or you don't, and then you are in a fertile area or you aren't. Smart has built the same machine and we pull PAC territory kids all the time.
When the Air Raid style offense became a thing Alabama was behind the 8 ball on it. So Saban poached a stud recruiter from the west coach that brought Tua, and I can’t remember the names but snagged the top Cali running back recruit. You can say Bama was X, Y, or Z but throughout my child hood Alabama was just that school on Forrest Gump, then stole our coach only to defame him.
I'm confused, perhaps you can help me.
He didn't say Deep South, he said south. And he's right. The top recruiting states are all in the south, by a large margin. See the chart below which the is top 300 recruits in 2023, per On3 (IMG players are listed in their home state).
| State | Top 300 On3 | 5* |
| Texas | 52 | 5 |
| Florida | 51 | 4 |
| Georgia | 28 | 1 |
| California | 21 | 5 |
| Alabama | 19 | 6 |
| Louisiana | 16 | 2 |
| North Carolina | 12 | |
| Missouri | 9 | 2 |
| Ohio | 7 | |
| Maryland | 7 | |
| Virginia | 5 | 1 |
| Tennessee | 5 | |
| Pennsylvania | 5 | |
| Oklahoma | 5 | |
| Mississippi | 5 | |
| Massachusetts | 5 | 1 |
| Illinois | 5 | 1 |
| Washington | 4 | |
| New Jersey | 4 | |
| Nevada | 4 | |
| Michigan | 4 | 1 |
| Arizona | 4 | 1 |
| Utah | 3 | |
| South Carolina | 3 | |
| Iowa | 3 | 1 |
| Indiana | 3 | |
| Kansas | 2 | |
| District of Columbia | 2 | 1 |
| Oregon | 1 | |
| Nebraska | 1 | |
| Minnesota | 1 | |
| Idaho | 1 | |
| Connecticut | 1 | |
| Colorado | 1 | |
| Arkansas | 1 |
Not sure when you started following college football, but Saban's Bama won 3 NCs before he changed his offense and Tua came on board. You can't point to Bama snagging any one player - those cousin fuckers had the top recruiting class for something like 8 straight years. Their worst year they were 6. Otherwise, they have been 1 or 2 since Saban got there. It's not luck.
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What the hell does A&M have to do with anything? If A&M ever stops losing 4-5 games a year -- it will mean something if they upset Bama.
Not sure when you started following college football, but Saban's Bama won 3 NCs before he changed his offense and Tua came on board. You can't point to Bama snagging any one player - those cousin fuckers had the top recruiting class for something like 8 straight years. Their worst year they were 6. Otherwise, they have been 1 or 2 since Saban got there. It's not luck.
As for QBs, they won 3 NCs with McCarron and McElroy and an FSU transfer. Those three years they won with prototypical system QBs. Tua was obviously great, but they won the next one with Mac Jones who didn't start a game until his 4th year and he lit it up. We got beat in OT in the NCG with a true freshman who is already out of the NFL after 3 years, and a former walk-on who is 5'10 on a good day. You need way more than a stud QB. Even Winston and Cam had studs around them. At the end of the day, it's talent, and Nebraska and Wisconsin you brought up in the other post don't have that level of talent yet. Not close.
Here is the 247 Talent Composite:
2022 College Football Team Talent Composite
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Nebraska and Wisconsin are 24 and 25, with 2 and 1 five stars, and 22 and 13 four stars, respectively. Compare that to Bama and UGA that have 14 and 15 five stars, and 59 and 52 four stars, respectively. The talent gap is huge, and a stud QB won't make up for that. Those two teams would have to somehow recruit at top 5 levels for at least 5 straight years to even be close, and there is no reason that is going to happen.
Look at the chart I posted in the other thread ... Nebraska can go to your state or any other in the west, but unless they get to the south and get their best players, it won't change soon or fast, IMO.
I've posted here often that I want more parity. I hope NIL, transfer portal, and an expanded CFP will deliver that.
Michigan has beaten OSU once in like 17 years.
That's interesting. I'd think with that much of a talent gap, Michigan would ever win. You said yourself, the gap of your best player in their recruiting class would make him like the tenth or so best player of the class. I can't imagine what years of that sort of gap would cause?
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You had the entire fanbase calling for Pelini to be fired for winning 9 games a season. So saying that Nebraska fans would accept 9 win seasons is a flat out lie.
