Indeed, we would. Probably build a statue for back to back 9 win seasons.
But, if the program is stuck there at 9 wins for a long time, I'd be looking for someone else.
Better Job: Arizona State or Nebraska?
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But, if the program is stuck there at 9 wins for a long time, I'd be looking for someone else.
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Not sure I follow. Smart was hired in 2016. Had we won in 2012, then maybe Richt gets a longer leash.
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I guess I am getting Smart and Richt mixed up, I thought it was Mark Richt's teams that lost in that title game with the Alabama comeback when they put Tua in.
Huh? That was like 3 years ago.
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2017 is 5 years ago. 3 years ago (2019) was the LSU run with Joe Burrow.
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No. Pederson was born and raised in Nebraska.
His issue was he wanted to establish his own legacy without the shadows of former greats.
Bill Callahan wasn't a terrible hire in itself. Callahan could recruit (i.e. Ndamukong Suh).
Callahan's problem was bringing in his buddy Kevin Cosgrove as DC.
'Spreading the wealth' to longtime buddies is prevalent in coaching ranks and often leads to losing one's own job.
It's difficult to fire a buddy/family friend for the good of the team.
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Yes, but if you don't have a talent rich state, it doesn't matter who the coach is, as they have no elite recruits to keep in state. That is why you see the coaches move around like chess pieces until they get to one of the select few schools in the talent rich states.
To be elite in today's CFB -- you have to have BOTH a very good coach and a talent rich state. There is a reason Nebraska has had coaches turn down their job offer and why they have had 5 coaches since Osborne and none of them have been considered top coaches. The top coaches aren't going to a place with no talent in state or in surrounding states.
You would never see a Lincoln Riley leave Oklahoma to go to Nebraska or Brian Kelly leave Notre Dame to go to Nebraska or Jimbo Fisher leave FSU to go to Nebraska. It is never happening. California, Louisiana and Texas are all talent rich states -- that's why those schools can do that.
You're right. It feels like just 3 years ago, but Devonta was a Freshman, and won the Heisman two years ago now.
Still, it was 100% Kirby Smart. Richt had two SEC Championships and I don't think ever made it to the Natty. I think the closet he got was when UGA played FSU in the Sugar Bowl or something.
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It's:
- Coach
- Attractive place to play
- Fertile recruiting grounds
- Now add in NIL
Take Miami ... let's assume that Cristobal is a good enough coach (not sure that is true, but let's go with that). Fertile recruiting grounds, NIL. Not sure it's a very attractive place to play. Before you @Me, understand I grew up in WPB, and my dad is from Miami. I don't think the U is an attractive place to place - off-campus stadium that's never full, and a bad fanbase. Sure there's South Beach, but it's a half hour from campus, and you aren't clubbing every night and still being an effective football player.
USC is all about the coach. tOSU has tradition, they've had good coaches, and they are the "it" school in the midwest.
Bama & UGA - Saban is obviously and unfortunately the GOAT, Bama has tradition and a great fanbase, in the middle of a fertile recruiting grounds. Smart is obviously an unreal HC, even if you question his Xs and Os. He's the best recruiter in the nation, and UGA's an "it" school in the southeast with a great tradition.
Apply that to Nebraska and tell me how they get relevant. Not saying they can't, just saying it's an uphill climb.
I know he pissed a lot of people off with the stuff he did.
That and needing a PhD to read his playbook.
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You might want to dig deeper next time. The tweeter followed up his own dumb post with this:
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The fanbase was split about 50/50 on Pelini's firing.
The hiring of Mike Riley gave them a lot of talking points that remain to this day.
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Texas A&M has won over 9 games ONCE in 25 years. They haven't won a conference title in 25 years. Yet somehow in that brain of yours, you thought this would be a good team to compare to Georgia?
Then your comment is -- the reason Georgia made all those conference championship games is 'an easy path' and you list bowl games from last year as your proof? I realize Nebraska fans are a little rusty with what goes down in bowl games these days, as you haven't been to one in 5 or 6 years. Bowl games have little meaning. Most players going to the NFL draft sit out the bowl games now. They have essentially turned into games where you can give players experience for the next season.
And AGAIN -- I didn't say GEORGIA IS BAMA RIGHT NOW. I said, they are the one team in CFB right now who could put together a run like Bama had. Why? Because they are located in the single best state to recruit right now and they are the only top D1 program. Take 2021 for example -- They signed 4 five star recruits and 8 total top 100 recruits JUST FROM THE STATE OF GEORGIA. That is ONE YEAR. Now tell me how many years it'd take Nebraska to sign that amount from the state of Nebraska? I will wait patiently. Guarantee you don't respond though.
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Because WhoPhoneDis is in here gobbling Bulldog nuts like he/she does in every thread since January.
"dEy BeAt bAmA FoR dUh NaTTy, nOw DeY dUh GrEaTeSt eVaH"
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Those guys could have been elite where they were.
Get back to me when you're not such a simpleton.
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I'm a simpleton, yet you are on a COLLEGE FOOTBALL message board feeling the need to point out that all things have went thru Saban and Bama?
Thank you Captain Obvious. I didn't realize this needed to be pointed out. I figured the 6 national titles and the 15 consecutive years they have been ranked #1 in the polls at some point would suffice?!?! I guess people really do need to spell everything out for you.
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What some seem to not understand is that there is a different standard at a blue blood school than a non-blue blood school.
With what he did at USC, if Clay Helton was at UCLA with that same record...he's still their coach and likely on his 2nd extension. At USC, it gets him fired early in the season and people were calling for his head for at least 3 prior seasons.
The difference was that at USC the expectation is that you stand toe to toe with the best teams, every year and dominate the lesser teams. USC was beating the lesser teams, but not dominating them and getting embarrassed against the top teams.
That seems like Nebraska with Pelini.
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I'm a simpleton, yet you are on a COLLEGE FOOTBALL message board feeling the need to point out that all things have went thru Saban and Bama?
You are a simpleton. You like the latest shiny object. I bet your phone has bling on the case.
If I were to polish a turd you'd be gobbling it up.
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USC is the only real Football Power in their entire area. Arizona, Arizona State, and UCLA have had good teams but not on level of USC. I would argue USC is the only historically elite power West of Texas. (Oregon has had a nice rise and Washington has decent history but both are not on level of USC from a perception purpose).
This is a huge advantage for USC (or should be) from recruiting aspect.
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USC and Louisiana is LIGHT YEARS EASIER to recruit to, as they have elite talent in their own backyard.
The state of California has 6 five star recruits and 10 top 100 recruits in 2023. The state of Oklahoma has 1 top 100 recruit in 2023 and he gave his verbal to Michigan State.
The state of Louisiana, in what they consider a down year in recruiting, have 5 top 100 recruits. The state of Indiana has 0 top 100 recruits in 2023.
This isn't tough to understand. It is much easier to recruit a kid who grew up watching your school, cheering for your school, dreaming of playing for your school than it is to have to recruit 100% nationally.