New SEC Alignment

Volbound1700 said:
I already pointed out how short-sighted your view is and I know the SEC doesn't look at it that way. Make this same sampling in 2000 based on your thought process and both Alabama and LSU would be in your "tier 2" category. Look it up.

LSU was absolute trash most of the 1980s and 1990s and look at them now. In fact their draught was as long as Tennessee's.
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Alabama was one of the top three SEC programs (behind Florida and even with Tennessee) in the '90s winning a National Championship (1992), 2 SEC Championships (1992 and 1999), 5 SEC West Championships (1992, 1993, 1994, 1996 and 1999), 5 Bowl Games (1991 Blockbuster, 1993 Sugar, 1993 Gator, 1995 Citrus and 1997 Outback) and had five 10 win seasons (1991, 1992, 1994, 1996 and 1999). Not sure how they were 2nd tier in 2000.
 
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Call me crazy, but why have any alignment at all? Just erase the divisions completely and go at it.
 
Red_Alert said:
Probably because they want to retain annual rivalries.

To do that they'd need some sense of division.
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I guess it would be easier with less teams, where each teams can play one another.

It's becoming a cluster as it is.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Pod system kills rivalries.

A classic example is Tennessee vs. Kentucky is not retained in your scenario. This game has been played since the late 1800s every year. It may not be competitive but it is an important series to both schools. If there is a pod scenario, I guarantee that game is retained. Tennessee won't lose Alabama, Kentucky, and Vandy and they will fight to also keep Florida and Georgia.

The East/West split prevents any of those loses with the exception of Alabama-LSU and Alabama-Miss State (Alabama-Miss State is a long running series because both schools are very close to each other geographically, closer than even Alabama-Auburn). Those are probably the two biggest games you lose. Ole Miss-Vandy is perhaps another one.

Part of the SEC's strength has been its rivalries. The SEC will want to put games on OU and Texas' schedule with the intention of driving rivalries and fun matchups. The East-West scenario does all of that.
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No one gives a shit about rivalries anymore.
 
Wild Turkey said:
No

But I can guarantee you that it won't be close to your chart.
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That's my chart, or one that I pasted here. I am curious ... it's not like this is something out of the blue ... the 3-6-6 format has been discussed all over the place. What is it that you find off with that chart? If it's off anywhere, you guys have the toughest permanent rivalries and I don't think you will get UF. But I think you will find this chart, and this format, to be really close.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Not sure why this got bumped but to add to your comments, I don't think creating divisions based on current status of teams is smart because teams collapse or get good over time. I do think all-time history or program potential can matter some degree but the focus should be on keeping rivals.

I am now more of a fan of 3-6-6 but I did like how the division formats kept most of the rivalries intact. In fact the SEC East is pretty much the original SEC with only the two Mississippis and LSU left out.

The SEC West has 4 former Big12 teams, Arkansas, LSU, and the two Mississippis which would be a fun competitive division as long as OU and Texas can live up to history.
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Good luck with that.
 
Kachina said:
Call me crazy, but why have any alignment at all? Just erase the divisions completely and go at it.
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The 3-6-6 format gets rid of divisions. This is better than "pods" which was 4 pods where the 4 teams played each other in a round robin format. The "permanent rival" format is badass as it maximizes rivalries. If you look at the chart I posted above, you can see that this makes almost every traditional rivalry take place every year. In fairness you can't cover them all and be fair ... Auburn has 3 great rivalries with UF, UGA, and Bama - that's not fair. Bama has Auburn, UTjr, and LSU. If UTjr ever gets good any more, that would be tough.

I always want to play Auburn ... we've played them every year for a billion years. Don't want to lose that.
 
outofyourmind said:
We're going to get stuck with Missouri.
I just know it.

Literally
Anyone else would be better.
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The deal appears to be that the bottom 8 teams get 2 bottoms, and 1 top. While the top 8 teams get two tops and one bottom. That way you will have a bunch of middling teams and not as many with totally crap records. You guys are going to get UT and ATM, so you need a bottom. Mizzou fits that, but so would Arky.
 
Cowboyinexile said:
No one gives a shit about rivalries anymore.
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I disagree ... that's what TV wants and what they are paying billions for. It's what the SEC wants and why they are going to change their scheduling. I hope the other conferences do the same thing ... the ACC has done a pretty good job wit their 3-5-5 IC scheduling format.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I disagree ... that's what TV wants and what they are paying billions for. It's what the SEC wants and why they are going to change their scheduling. I hope the other conferences do the same thing ... the ACC has done a pretty good job wit their 3-5-5 IC scheduling format.
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Tv has spent the last 10 years killing rivalries.
 
Cowboyinexile said:
It will be yall Texas ATM and Mizzou. Because nothing says SEC like those 4 playing each other year after year.
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Here is their every other year schedule (obviously a sample, but this is what it will look like in a 3-6-6 format):

Even years - TX, ATM, Mizzou, UGA, LSU, Ole Miss, Arky, Auburn, Vandy
Odd years - TX, ATM, Mizzou, Bama, UF, MSU, Kentucky, UTjr, USCjr

That say SEC?
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Here is their every other year schedule (obviously a sample, but this is what it will look like in a 3-6-6 format):

Even years - TX, ATM, Mizzou, UGA, LSU, Ole Miss, Arky, Auburn, Vandy
Odd years - TX, ATM, Mizzou, Bama, UF, MSU, Kentucky, UTjr, USCjr

That say SEC?
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Dont Get It Fran Healy GIF by Travis
 
Cowboyinexile said:
Tv has spent the last 10 years killing rivalries.
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I don't follow. What rivalries have TV killed? If you mean conference realignment, I see what you are saying. Even then we've lost a half dozen? The SEC new IC schedule, if it comes to pass, is guaranteeing our best rivalries.
 
Cowboyinexile said:
Dont Get It Fran Healy GIF by Travis
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I understand what you are saying, it looks more like a SWC or B12 schedule. I was simply pointing out that when you add 6 more games, every other year style, it's plenty SEC.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I disagree ... that's what TV wants and what they are paying billions for. It's what the SEC wants and why they are going to change their scheduling. I hope the other conferences do the same thing ... the ACC has done a pretty good job wit their 3-5-5 IC scheduling format.
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They can if they want to...except for the Big 12. They don't have any rivalries left except Kansas/K-State...if you call that a rivalry. Maybe TCU/Baylor.
 
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