Poll Better Job: Wisconsin or Nebraska?

Better Job

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Top Cat said:
I think that's a load of crap. There are plenty of ways to make a passing game mesh with Wisconsin. If you are mixing in spread concepts, you are NOT preparing lineman for the NFL given where it has been going. Running a "pro style" offense is code for dinosaur OC/coaches. Hell, even triple option principles are creeping into the NFL as more ultra-mobile QB's enter the league, most noticeably in Baltimore; except Lamar can actually throw. Granted, easier said than done but this is a lame cope out.

Pass blocking isn't about mauling people per se, it's about technique.
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Of course there is a way to make a passing game mesh with Wisconsin, but Wisconsin isn't a hot bed for skill position talent. Can Wisconsin spread it out and wing it all over the field? Sure. Will they be as successful as they've been playing to their recruiting strengths? No.

And for every Lamar Jackson -- there are 6 pocket passing QB's. Mahomes, Stafford, Brady, Tannehill, Jared Goff, Geno Smith, Joe Burrow, Tua Tagolovoa (sp), Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert, David Carr, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield, Jameis Winston, Jimmy Garappolo -- all pocket passers.

The reason why you don't see a ton of running QB's in the NFL is quite simple:
1. Everyone of the defense you are facing can run
2. Teams want to protect their investment -- when you are spending MILLIONS AND MILLIONS you don't want them running around taking unnecessary hits.

Lamar Jackson is an anomaly. He can run and rarely takes big hits. Josh Allen is an anomaly -- he is the size of the DE's chasing after him and can run them over. That isn't the norm and it isn't taking over the NFL, because there are only a select few.

You see teams trying to find the next mobile QB -- but the NFL and college are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT games.
 
broncosmitty said:
College coaches aren’t paid to prepare guys for the NFL.
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Very true. They are paid to win games and IMO, it is why Wisconsin runs the offense that they do. It is a style they can recruit the best. They can get the big OL. They can get the running backs to fit their offense. They can find the corn fed midwest TE's.

Now it is much more difficult for a school like Wisconsin to try and sign elite skill position talent, as it is mostly found in the South or if there is one in the Midwest, Wisconsin will be down the list of B1G programs to sign with, as they don't have the national brand of an OSU, PSU or Michigan.
 
The only people that would pick Nebraska are now 40+ years old and likely won't be signing a letter of intent too soon

Wisconsin has been the vastly superior program for the entirety of every current CFB recruits life

That alone makes Wisconsinb the far better job

The other stuff is pretty comparable aside from wayyuy our of wack expectations from the aforementioned 40+ year old Nebraska boosters/fans
 
rmilia1 said:
The only people that would pick Nebraska are now 40+ years old and likely won't be signing a letter of intent too soon

Wisconsin has been the vastly superior program for the entirety of every current CFB recruits life

That alone makes Wisconsinb the far better job

The other stuff is pretty comparable aside from wayyuy our of wack expectations from the aforementioned 40+ year old Nebraska boosters/fans
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NIL makes Nebraska the better program.
 
Top Cat said:
Seems to be the elephant in the room some are willfully ignoring for... reasons.
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I have no idea how much NIL money the players from each school are bringing in, so no argument. Where did you get you data?
 
Tomhusker said:
NIL makes Nebraska the better program.
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Maybe? I've seen nothing so far that suggests that to be the case though

NIL certainly could create more disparity in recruiting but this far there's nothing to indicate a substation hsp between Nebraska and Wisconsin in that regard

That is obviously subject to change though.
 
Much easier to recruit at Nebraska.
Its actually impressive how many games Chryst has won with the classes they get. Good luck replacing that
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Nebraska. Both play in talent poor areas, but Nebraska has more money and a far better history.

You’re not winning a natty at either place though
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NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Agree with both playing in poor talent areas, but Wisconsin is a school that attracts top offensive line talent because of putting OL into the NFL with their run heavy attack and don't have a fan base with thoughts of being nationally elite. They simply want to be in the top half of the B1G West and compete year in and year out for the West.

Money wise -- it is obviously Nebraska. But no coach in CFB today, that'd take the Nebraska job, will ever be able to achieve what Nebraska fans want and 'expect'. It'd take Warren Buffett giving the program a blank check for Nebraska to be able to compete with the Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, etc.

If Nebraska's fan base had realistic expectations, which should be on par with Wisconsin's ceiling, Nebraska would be the better job.

In the end though -- it will be the same result, no matter which job a coach takes. Competitive in the B1G West -- get the chance to be the sacrificial lamb in the B1G CCG against the B1G East champ.
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You should probably do a little fact checking before you post about money...Wisconsin's athletic department has a much larger budget than Nebraska. Also, Wisconsin needs to be in contention for the B1G West every year and they, boosters and AD, aren't going to be stagnant and probably weren't very happy about the starts of the last 2 years and figured enough was enough...probably even gave a pass on 20 with covid as a gimme...time to move on now before it becomes a shit show. That's probably their thinking.

One other thing, they expect to compete for the B1G title, Chryst himself has stated this from day 1. He didn't get it done and the fat azz on the other sideline got it done multiple times at UW. While that one loss wasn't the cause, it may have been the last straw.

Kburjr said:
This is Wisconsin's AD cutting the ties to Alvarez.
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This might have a lot to do with him being let go. Guys putting in big dough and watching just about every team that is in the upper echelon going to the shotgun spread O with RPO and whatever else. They're probably thinking it's time to move forward and do something now as opposed to later.

Honestly, I was very disappointed in how they handled the Coan situation and asked him to transfer by basically stating Merz was the guy and he could be the backup. To me that's a WTF??? The better the competition the more likely you'll have a better product on the field. Shove your stars and give me production...
 
A couple other things, McIntosh played for Alvarez at UW and UWs best team was the year before Wilson played there. I know those things for sure, you're all welcome to argue about the rest of it.
 
Moab said:
You should probably do a little fact checking before you post about money...Wisconsin's athletic department has a much larger budget than Nebraska. Also, Wisconsin needs to be in contention for the B1G West every year and they, boosters and AD, aren't going to be stagnant and probably weren't very happy about the starts of the last 2 years and figured enough was enough...probably even gave a pass on 20 with covid as a gimme...time to move on now before it becomes a shit show. That's probably their thinking.

One other thing, they expect to compete for the B1G title, Chryst himself has stated this from day 1. He didn't get it done and the fat azz on the other sideline got it done multiple times at UW. While that one loss wasn't the cause, it may have been the last straw.



This might have a lot to do with him being let go. Guys putting in big dough and watching just about every team that is in the upper echelon going to the shotgun spread O with RPO and whatever else. They're probably thinking it's time to move forward and do something now as opposed to later.

Honestly, I was very disappointed in how they handled the Coan situation and asked him to transfer by basically stating Merz was the guy and he could be the backup. To me that's a WTF??? The better the competition the more likely you'll have a better product on the field. Shove your stars and give me production...
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But mertz turned out to be so good. Honestly with the portal the way it is now they need to go heavy after one of those 5* or 4* that transfer bc they are sitting
 
If this was a normal coaching change for Wisconsin where they were still winning 10+ games and rolling I might be tempted to say them. However, Wisconsin could be on a downturn and it only takes one or two bad seasons at a place like it for things to go from bad to worse.

I gotta learn Nebraska bc of the upside if you were to turn that program around. If you don't, still gonna make a shit ton of money for 2-3 seasons
 
Top Cat said:
Seems to be the elephant in the room some are willfully ignoring for... reasons.
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We don't have any data to support this.
www.si.com

College football rankings: 10 most valuable programs entering 2022 season

Your look at the most valuable programs in college football right now.
www.si.com www.si.com

12. Nebraska — $51.421 million

13. Florida — $51.230 million

14. Ole Miss — $49.111 million

15. Wisconsin — $48.559 million

They're not very far off in terms of lists like this. Both have pretty prominent and well supported alumni bases.
 
Nebraska but not by much.

Issue with Wisconsin is Green Bay Packers. Most people in that state tend to go Packers over Badgers. The two programs do compete for fan attention and support.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
We don't have any data to support this.
www.si.com

College football rankings: 10 most valuable programs entering 2022 season

Your look at the most valuable programs in college football right now.
www.si.com www.si.com

12. Nebraska — $51.421 million

13. Florida — $51.230 million

14. Ole Miss — $49.111 million

15. Wisconsin — $48.559 million

They're not very far off in terms of lists like this. Both have pretty prominent and well supported alumni bases.
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That's different from having NIL infrastructure, and you know this. There's a reason there are already rumors of Texas A&M boosters being pissed and looking into Jimbo's 96M buyout. Different ballgame.
 
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