GAME 2023 NFL Draft Thread

Certainly everyone understands by now that the person who best predicts the draft must also be the one who will end up having evaluated the college talent correctly/the best in the end. After all, those are the exact same thing :wink:
 
RoyMunson said:
nobody knows what you're posting. It's more nonsense than usual.
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He's posting rankings of how accurate the mock drafts are, not anything of actual value like how good the players drafted were or their value.
 
Guy Incognito said:
He's posting rankings of how accurate the mock drafts are, not anything of actual value like how good the players drafted were or their value.
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nobody cares bfd GIF
 
RoyMunson said:
nobody cares bfd GIF
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So go back to talking about your toys in the daily thread and stop clogging up the draft thread with your low energy, high estrogen posts.
 
DragonFromTo said:
Certainly everyone understands by now that the person who best predicts the draft must also be the one who will end up having evaluated the college talent correctly/the best in the end. After all, those are the exact same thing :wink:
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Real easy to see why some guy who regularly sucks at the draft would call a pick “a reach” when it doesn’t align with his own mock.
 
RobBase (c) said:
So go back to talking about your toys in the daily thread and stop clogging up the draft thread with your low energy, high estrogen posts.
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don't be mad because I'm able to lift weights and not injure myself...
 
RobBase (c) said:
Real easy to see why some guy who regularly sucks at the draft would call a pick “a reach” when it doesn’t align with his own mock.
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where did your man-crush Mel Kiper have Gibbs going?
 
RobBase (c) said:
Real easy to see why some guy who regularly sucks at the draft would call a pick “a reach” when it doesn’t align with his own mock.
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Real easy to see why anyone doing this type of thing for a living could/would do something similar to that. Even Walter and Charlie :wink:
 
RobBase (c) said:
Packers traded Brian Branch to the Lions for a 5th round pick and took 2 TE’s in R2.

Anyone want to talk about that?
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In Green Bay's defense -- New England once drafted two TE's early a draft and they were both stars. And on the plus side -- only one of New England's TE picks ended up being a murderer.
 
Across The Field said:
You lost those games because you literally had the worst defense in football. Your offense was top 5 in total offense and PPG, so no Swift didn't lose you games. You couldn't stop anyone, especially through the air. Campbell is a solid LB but not at a premium price. You missed the playoffs by one game because you had two losses where you scored 35 and 45 points. It's clear to everyone that defense was the issue.
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What killed us last year was our secondary was atrocious. Okudah was a massive flop for us, which shocked me because i fully thought he would dominate like Sauce Gardner did last year. But he was horrible from day 1 for us. So Detroit went out and signed 3 top CB's on the free agent market. Sutton is an absolute steal for 11 mil a year. Then to get CGJ and Moseley on one year deals -- The secondary is going to be a big strength for us. Branch is a guy who would walk on and start on many teams, but he will be depth for the Lions this year. He may have a few packages they use him, but CGJ led the NFL in interceptions last year and plays the exact same role as Branch covering slot guys.

That's why I said -- for this upcoming season -- it is great draft. Next year though -- we are going to have to fill those premium positions and we won't have the luxury of a top 6 pick or 2 picks in the top 18. If we do well, we will be picking at the end of the 1st round.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
What killed us last year was our secondary was atrocious. Okudah was a massive flop for us, which shocked me because i fully thought he would dominate like Sauce Gardner did last year. But he was horrible from day 1 for us. So Detroit went out and signed 3 top CB's on the free agent market. Sutton is an absolute steal for 11 mil a year. Then to get CGJ and Moseley on one year deals -- The secondary is going to be a big strength for us. Branch is a guy who would walk on and start on many teams, but he will be depth for the Lions this year. He may have a few packages they use him, but CGJ led the NFL in interceptions last year and plays the exact same role as Branch covering slot guys.

That's why I said -- for this upcoming season -- it is great draft. Next year though -- we are going to have to fill those premium positions and we won't have the luxury of a top 6 pick or 2 picks in the top 18. If we do well, we will be picking at the end of the 1st round.
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Okudah played really well until his concussion. It was too bad, hoping he can stay healthy in Atlanta.

For this year, yeah it's fine. Everyone loves having a talented RB and good LB, but that's when the rest of the team is already sound. The DL is weak outside of Hutchinson, and the amount of high end DBs in this draft and Detroit only comes away with 1? Come on now.
 
Across The Field said:
Okudah played really well until his concussion. It was too bad, hoping he can stay healthy in Atlanta.

For this year, yeah it's fine. Everyone loves having a talented RB and good LB, but that's when the rest of the team is already sound. The DL is weak outside of Hutchinson, and the amount of high end DBs in this draft and Detroit only comes away with 1? Come on now.
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Was the concussion you are talking about when he played for Ohio State. He never played good for Detroit. He couldn't cover anyone for us. We moved him to covering the 2 and 3 WR's and he was still getting beat downfield. That's why we were ecstatic to get a 5th round pick for him.

And while I would have loved to see us take a Tyree Wilson or a Jalen Carter -- We have draft picks from prior years who were injured last year, like 2nd round DE pick Josh Paschal from last year, Charles Harris (who had a 10 sack season the year before) and 3rd round pick Levi Onwuzurike at DT. All those guys were essentially out last year, so Detroit has players who have produced at the NFL level and draft picks who haven't had a chance
to show what they have.

And I can't really be upset with our front office. The draft class from 2022 had 21 sacks between them last year. Our 6th round pick James Houston set the NFL record with the most games in a row to start a career with at least one sack in a game and only played 1/2 the year and finish #2 for sacks by a rookie behind our #1 pick Hutchinson.

The DB's -- I DEFINITELY agree. We should have taken Gonzalez over Gibbs. We could have taken Gibbs at 18. Then Campbell at 34, then LaPorta at 48 and all of them would have almost assuredly been available at those picks.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Was the concussion you are talking about when he played for Ohio State. He never played good for Detroit. He couldn't cover anyone for us. We moved him to covering the 2 and 3 WR's and he was still getting beat downfield. That's why we were ecstatic to get a 5th round pick for him.

And while I would have loved to see us take a Tyree Wilson or a Jalen Carter -- We have draft picks from prior years who were injured last year, like 2nd round DE pick Josh Paschal from last year, Charles Harris (who had a 10 sack season the year before) and 3rd round pick Levi Onwuzurike at DT. All those guys were essentially out last year, so Detroit has players who have produced at the NFL level and draft picks who haven't had a chance
to show what they have.

And I can't really be upset with our front office. The draft class from 2022 had 21 sacks between them last year. Our 6th round pick James Houston set the NFL record with the most games in a row to start a career with at least one sack in a game and only played 1/2 the year and finish #2 for sacks by a rookie behind our #1 pick Hutchinson.

The DB's -- I DEFINITELY agree. We should have taken Gonzalez over Gibbs. We could have taken Gibbs at 18. Then Campbell at 34, then LaPorta at 48 and all of them would have almost assuredly been available at those picks.
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I'm talking about 2022's concussion. It's why he missed the Thanksgiving game last year. By all means, though, he played very well last year before then. In fact, just in September he held Devonta Smith yardless and only allowed 14 yards to Justin Jefferson. If he can stay healthy, there's no reason to think he can't play like he did the first two months of last year.

If the DL is healthy that's great, but I think what you said just shows the importance of talented depth along the DL, which Detroit doesn't really have. Staying put and getting Wilson would've been fine, but even trading back they could have gone after Van Ness/McDonald, or more importantly a CB. Only two teams last year gave up more passing yards than Detroit, so they'd better hope that DL is healthy.
 
Across The Field said:
I'm talking about 2022's concussion. It's why he missed the Thanksgiving game last year. By all means, though, he played very well last year before then. In fact, just in September he held Devonta Smith yardless and only allowed 14 yards to Justin Jefferson. If he can stay healthy, there's no reason to think he can't play like he did the first two months of last year.

If the DL is healthy that's great, but I think what you said just shows the importance of talented depth along the DL, which Detroit doesn't really have. Staying put and getting Wilson would've been fine, but even trading back they could have gone after Van Ness/McDonald, or more importantly a CB. Only two teams last year gave up more passing yards than Detroit, so they'd better hope that DL is healthy.
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I've watched every second of every Lions game. Okudah has been not just terrible for the Lions, but terrible as a CB in the entire NFL. I'm talking historically bad.

A good deal of this ranking hinges on Jeff Okudah looking more like the player who ranked fourth on PFF’s draft board back in 2020 and less like the one who’s allowed a career 121.8 passer rating into his coverage.

To put how bad that is in perspective -- Patrick Mahomes career passer rating is 105.7. So he makes QB's look light years better than Mahomes.

I wanted nothing to do with McDonald -- we have Julian Okwara who is exactly like McDonald. Van Ness is another I didn't want. Tyree Wilson and Jalen Carter were the only two I was looking at. Detroit will need all the guys who were hurt last year to step up this year and the fact he passed on those guys makes me think -- the staff believes they will.

Still not thrilled with the draft we had in the 1st round, but I understand it more now, as they are looking to strike while our division is down and the players they drafted will definitely help immediately, even though they may not have the ceiling of some other players they could have drafted.
 
Knight&Day said:
Apparently two Byron Youngs’ were drafted a few picks apart from each other?

One played for Bammy, got picked by the Raiders.

The other played for Tenny, got picked by the Rams.

That’s funny shit. :laugh:
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2012, Detroit draft’s Ronnell Lewis in the 4th round.

Then realized they didn’t mean THAT Lewis. And drafts Travis Lewis.

Ronnell had 2career tackles in his one season. Travis player awhile.

Whole room full of guys who get paid like it’s their job…
 
RobBase (c) said:
Here you go, noobs. Told you I was a draft junkie.

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No one is denying you're a nerd about the draft.

We just don't think your team did very good in the draft and you keep providing unreferenced screenshots of someone saying it wasn't that bad.
 
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