Conference teams that played 10 P5 opponents in 2022...

I get all that - I was for the 9 game IC schedule. But at the end of the day, when we meet up with the best of the other conferences, we win more than any other conference. So, sure, it's a cop-out for the SEC and I hope and expect they will go to 9 IC games. But let's not act like that's why we are the best conference with the best teams.

It's not why Bama and UGA are always good that's for sure.

7-6 looks a lot better than 6-7 though and so on. When your average teams get that extra 1 win boost it really does make the whole league look a lot better as a whole
 
Can't speak for the other guys, but I wouldn't be tooting your horn much about our game.
Why? We won, didn't we? You had us by down by 14 in the 4th quarter and we outscored you 18-3 in the 4th to win.

I love that win almost more than the UM blowout the year before.
 
It's not why Bama and UGA are always good that's for sure.

7-6 looks a lot better than 6-7 though and so on. When your average teams get that extra 1 win boost it really does make the whole league look a lot better as a whole
You are concentrating on the lower teams getting into bowls. The 8 game IC certainly helps there - that's a simple math equation. It's just not something I care about.
 
Why? We won, didn't we? You had us by down by 14 in the 4th quarter and we outscored you 18-3 in the 4th to win.

I love that win almost more than the UM blowout the year before.
Context, my friend.
 
Yet no one is claiming Penn State and Wisconsin to be constant legit national title contenders. Like SEC honks do with the Florida, LSU & Auburn types.
If I understand what you are saying, UF won 2 NCs in the last 20 years, Auburn won 1, and LSU has 3 in the last 20 years including one 4 years ago. You can see how PSU/Wisky <> UF/Auburn/LSU when it comes to discussing NC chances, right? All the while acknowledging that UF and Auburn are down and I hope they stay that way the rest of my life ... LSU, I like ... CFB is better with LSU better.
 
And it makes the whole conference looks stronger as a whole when they all basically get a extra free W, since we know they arent using that 4th OOC game to play anyone worth a fuck.

Didn't you guys play Northwestern and Rutgers last year...#103 and #118 according to Sagarin...then followed Notre Dame up with Arkansas State and Toledo.

Are you arguing that those are appreciably better than Utah State, Texas, ULM, Austin Peay and Vandy....because they're not. Again, using Sagarin the bottom 6 opponents for Ohio State average rating is 91.31 for Alabama it is 91.81. Pretty much the difference between Arkansas State and Austin Peay...146 vs 151...getting that we didn't play any FCS bump, lol.

I think the 10 year average has Alabama 10 spots higher than tOSU for SOS...with Alabama having the better SOS 6 out of 10 years...which would include last year's 9 spot win for Alabama.
 
Context, my friend.
There is no context except to tOSU fans. You missed a field goal, we missed 2. You lost a WR to injury but didn't have sufficient backups. And, we lost players, too. We can dig into all the context you want, at the end of the day we did enough to win the game and that is what counts. Trust me, I have been where you were (2012 SECCG, 2017 NCG, and a dozen other times over the years). It just is what it is.
 
If I understand what you are saying, UF won 2 NCs in the last 20 years, Auburn won 1, and LSU has 3 in the last 20 years including one 4 years ago. You can see how PSU/Wisky <> UF/Auburn/LSU when it comes to discussing NC chances, right? All the while acknowledging that UF and Auburn are down and I hope they stay that way the rest of my life ... LSU, I like ... CFB is better with LSU better.

What have Florida and Barn done lately though? Florida has lost 4 or more games in 10/13 seasons since 2010. Auburn has lost at least 4 games EVERY SEASON since their BCSCCG loss to Florida State in 2013. Not denying that they won those titles in the past. But to act like they are still consistently great teams because of success 10+ years ago is laughable.

LSU has that outlier title in 2019 but they've been VERY inconsistent for the last 10 years.

Their current year on field national title odds have dick to do with what happened over a decade ago.
 
There is no context except to tOSU fans. You missed a field goal, we missed 2. You lost a WR to injury but didn't have sufficient backups. And, we lost players, too. We can dig into all the context you want, at the end of the day we did enough to win the game and that is what counts. Trust me, I have been where you were (2012 SECCG, 2017 NCG, and a dozen other times over the years). It just is what it is.
You aren't understanding what "context" means. I posted that in response to pont's post basically acting as if OSU went out and embarrassed themselves, which clearly wasn't the case. I didn't expect that game to be within 2 scores but we proved why we're still Ohio State, despite our defense being dreadful and missing 6 major offensive players by the end of the game. I respect the outcome and respect Georgia, it's a great team, but to suggest OSU went out there and completely laid an egg is stupid.
 
Holier than thou doesn't mean shit in college football. I always said the Pac fucked up by playing 9 conference games.

You're 8-19 versus other Power 5's in the last 3 years, near even against the Mountain West and BYU is 5-1 over that last two seasons. Going to 9 conference games likely improved your overall record.
 
What have Florida and Barn done lately though? Florida has lost 4 or more games in 10/13 seasons since 2010. Auburn has lost at least 4 games EVERY SEASON since their BCSCCG loss to Florida State in 2013. Not denying that they won those titles in the past. But to act like they are still consistently great teams because of success 10+ years ago is laughable.

LSU has that outlier title in 2019 but they've been VERY inconsistent for the last 10 years.
I wrote this in my post: "All the while acknowledging that UF and Auburn are down and I hope they stay that way the rest of my life ... LSU, I like ... CFB is better with LSU better."

When you compare programs and their NC chances, having won NCs "recently" - meaning not in the 70s or 80 - matters. It shows they can get there with the right coaching. Do we really think that of PSU and Wisky?
 
What have Florida and Barn done lately though? Florida has lost 4 or more games in 10/13 seasons since 2010. Auburn has lost at least 4 games EVERY SEASON since their BCSCCG loss to Florida State in 2013. Not denying that they won those titles in the past. But to act like they are still consistently great teams because of success 10+ years ago is laughable.

LSU has that outlier title in 2019 but they've been VERY inconsistent for the last 10 years.

Their current year on field national title odds have dick to do with what happened over a decade ago.

What has any school outside the top 2 of every other conference ever done...

Outside the top 2 you've got what? Miami, Washington, Penn State, TCU?

If the top 2 teams from every other conference were eliminated tomorrow, the SEC might actually be more dominant than it is now.
 
I wrote this in my post: "All the while acknowledging that UF and Auburn are down and I hope they stay that way the rest of my life ... LSU, I like ... CFB is better with LSU better."

When you compare programs and their NC chances, having won NCs "recently" - meaning not in the 70s or 80 - matters. It shows they can get there with the right coaching. Do we really think that of PSU and Wisky?

I don't care who won a title 10 years ago or however long. I compare NC chances when it comes to now. Florida winning BCS titles in the 2000s does not give them a leg up on the competition in 2023.
 
You aren't understanding what "context" means. I posted that in response to pont's post basically acting as if OSU went out and embarrassed themselves, which clearly wasn't the case. I didn't expect that game to be within 2 scores but we proved why we're still Ohio State, despite our defense being dreadful and missing 6 major offensive players by the end of the game. I respect the outcome and respect Georgia, it's a great team, but to suggest OSU went out there and completely laid an egg is stupid.
I didn't suggest that and anyone who did is just wrong. That was an unreal game. Obviously, that was the national championship game right there. The winner of that game was going to win the NC. I though that Day did the best job of coaching until the end. But, yeah, I didn't understand your use of context if that is what you meant ... that Peach Bowl as a great one.
 
I wrote this in my post: "All the while acknowledging that UF and Auburn are down and I hope they stay that way the rest of my life ... LSU, I like ... CFB is better with LSU better."

When you compare programs and their NC chances, having won NCs "recently" - meaning not in the 70s or 80 - matters. It shows they can get there with the right coaching. Do we really think that of PSU and Wisky?
We'll see how Fickell works out, but Wisky has always punched above their weight. They just need to make change on offense. However, PSU could absolutely win a NC. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they won the B1G this year and wound up a top 2 team in the country going into the postseason. They're going to have a dynamic offense, and their defense will be good enough.
 
We'll see how Fickell works out, but Wisky has always punched above their weight. They just need to make change on offense. However, PSU could absolutely win a NC. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they won the B1G this year and wound up a top 2 team in the country going into the postseason. They're going to have a dynamic offense, and their defense will be good enough.

IDK how the new Wisconsin is going to go. I feel like it is really going to work or really be a dumpster fire, no inbetween.
 
I didn't suggest that and anyone who did is just wrong. That was an unreal game. Obviously, that was the national championship game right there. The winner of that game was going to win the NC. I though that Day did the best job of coaching until the end. But, yeah, I didn't understand your use of context if that is what you meant ... that Peach Bowl as a great one.
It was inevitable that UGA was going to pull off some massive offensive plays. That was the biggest downfall of that defense in its first year. Maryland had several, PSU had several, and michigan only won against us because of the big plays. Our offense showed up against UGA better than I had anticipated but it just wasn't enough in the end. I'd love another crack at UGA this year, and hopefully that's what we see.
 
IDK how the new Wisconsin is going to go. I feel like it is really going to work or really be a dumpster fire, no inbetween.
I feel like the floor is going to be 8-4 on any given season while 11-1 is possible. They need a new philosophy in regards to offensive coaching but the defense should be good.
 
I feel like the floor is going to be 8-4 on any given season while 11-1 is possible. They need a new philosophy in regards to offensive coaching but the defense should be good.

Just not sure how attractive Wisconsin is going to be to those kinds of players, they've basically built a niche around certain kinds of players since the early 90s. Fickell is going to have to sell it well.
 
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