You have yet to provide any examples of coaches being more successful in less time. Dontonio took 7 years to reach a playoff. Dabo took 7 at Clemson. Harbaugh took 7 at Michigan....
lol. "a mess". John Cooper has the 2nd highest winning percentage in OSU history only behind Woody Hayes.
It took Brian Kelly at ND 8 years to have a combined 3 seasons with more than 10 wins. Sure, he went to the BCS game in year 3 because of an incredibly easy schedule but it functionally took him 8 years at ND to produce back to back 10 win seasons.
That's true!
I stated a fact. Tressel took over a team that went 8-4 the year prior from the 2nd winningest coach in OSU history.
I'm still waiting on an example of a major program being turned around faster after a period of 7 years of sucking? how long has Texas been spiraling? We'll see how USC does with Riley, but again it's a different era of football now. He was only able to do that because of the immediate transfer rules now that brought star players from everywhere, including his former team, to play instantly.
I've provided you several. Franklin, Dantonio both won the B1G in way less time than Harbaugh could. The other ones I mentioned are also valid. Urban took over a program in total turmoil that was reeling. Our NC team was largely won by guys he recruited himself. If Harbaugh was a good coach, with the immense resources available to him at michigan, he could've been to the CFP way before 2021, but he's mediocre just like your entire program.
You didn't. Dantonio didn't make a playoff until year 7. But MSU is the closest example you provided and it still took 4 years to get anything going. Fans wanted Dantonio gone after 3 seasons, his 3rd being only 6 wins. You provided an example that exactly states the opposite of what you think it does. Franklin basically had the same resume as Harbaugh through 5 games; the only difference relates to a single call in a single game.
No, I'm trying to say that all 3 programs found themselves in similarly bad situations that coaches had to fix. Michigan had the advantage over the others because of the history and name in recruiting. But all 3 prove the example that it takes time to build a different culture and re-build rosters. And success then builds success.
Both MSU and Clemson were historically average teams in their conferences. Clemson was probably a little better off than Michigan State was. But I think you're all forgetting Michigan had a 3 win season under RR, and was on coach #3 within a 7 year span.
Stop moving the goalposts. For starters, the CFP wasn't around when MSU won it's first conference title under Dantonio. Secondly, a LOT of people believe PSU should've been in the CFP in 2016 (Franklin's third year) but OSU got the nod instead. These are both coaches who had real success far before Harbaugh, and with fewer resources to do it.