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That's a bit far. This years cusa wouldnt win 1 game head to head with this group
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I didn't mean in a win quality sense, just in a 'fit/cultural/geography/logic' sense
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Like that shit matters anymore
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It was weird going to bed in a PAC state and waking up in Big 12 country. I gotta trade my sandals and weed for a cowboy hat and tractor.
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Doesn't change the fact that conference blows and ain't winning shit either.
Also, Stanford isn't going to want to have any part of that shit-show. But I can see the rest.
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Dude Apple was paying for Oregon and Washington. I doubt they would pay 15mm a school now.
I agree. I've said the same thing ever since realignment started. Travel really isn't much of an issue in football because of the limited number of games.
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3-5 years where is UTEP gonna end up? CUSA? American? MWC?
Good question. We really aren’t wanted and don’t really “fit” anywhere. We are the bastard stepchild. And our fans are more fickle and pessimistic than most. Then again, my Miners have earned that feeling from fans with the way the’ve performed. But our facilities are better than a great majority of G5s.
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just saw cliffnotes on the apple deal..25 mil per school, if they got 1.7 mil subs it would match the Big12 payout.. GK was saying to think bigger, 5M subs which would pay over 50M per school.. Problem was there was no guarantee that apple would have games on linear TV.. apple shows MLS games through FOX
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Story out this morning details UW's process to come to the decision to leave the Pac for the B1G - UW president: Big Ten move was necessary to deliver ‘stability for our players, for our coaches, for our teams’
It wasn't as much about the money as it was about the lack of long term stability and national visibility.
They cited that the deal presented didn't match what their expectation was going into the vote on the new Pac media deal. They had expected more than one option and were disappointed by the fact all schools could opt out after just 2 years and there were no guarantees about access to linear TV. Apple does now put some of its offerings on Fox, but there wasn't anything specified in the deal in front of them that there would be non streaming national coverage as part of this package. They spoke about their experiences with the disaster of the Pac-12 network when it came to lack of national exposure for its student athletes.
They did not go into full details of the deal with the B1G, but did say in addition to the media distributions they would be able to borrow up to 10m/yr against future earnings to help offset travel costs. So it would be more than a decade before the financial situation of this move stabilizes.
At the end of the day this conference folded because there wasn't a media deal put in place to stabilize it as a power conference. TV deals with no national over the air/cable coverage and GOR's that were only 2 years on top of having to make subscription levels to even approach Big 12 levels of money just wasn't good enough.
It wasn't as much about the money as it was about the lack of long term stability and national visibility.
They cited that the deal presented didn't match what their expectation was going into the vote on the new Pac media deal. They had expected more than one option and were disappointed by the fact all schools could opt out after just 2 years and there were no guarantees about access to linear TV. Apple does now put some of its offerings on Fox, but there wasn't anything specified in the deal in front of them that there would be non streaming national coverage as part of this package. They spoke about their experiences with the disaster of the Pac-12 network when it came to lack of national exposure for its student athletes.
They did not go into full details of the deal with the B1G, but did say in addition to the media distributions they would be able to borrow up to 10m/yr against future earnings to help offset travel costs. So it would be more than a decade before the financial situation of this move stabilizes.
At the end of the day this conference folded because there wasn't a media deal put in place to stabilize it as a power conference. TV deals with no national over the air/cable coverage and GOR's that were only 2 years on top of having to make subscription levels to even approach Big 12 levels of money just wasn't good enough.
The traditional media market spoke. Just like it speaks when paying the big and SEC a hell of a lot more than the ACC and Big 12. There just aren’t any of those 4 million viewer games anywhere except the P2. Networks have shown they’ll pay for lower viewership games as long as those big viewership games are included.
At some point the streaming may work out, but it’ll probably only workout to any great extent for the USCs, Notre Dames, Bamas, etc of the world.
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I think depending on the movement and if teams leave the MWC vs disolving the conference UTEP could move to the MWC with NMS. Or the left ove MWC could add to CUSA
This conference simply didn't invest in sports like Oregon needed. We outgrew this thing back in 2009.
Good luck to those left behind. To the Beavs, I am sure you can strike a deal where Oregon pays you similar to how they pay Portland State for non conference games.
Good luck to those left behind. To the Beavs, I am sure you can strike a deal where Oregon pays you similar to how they pay Portland State for non conference games.
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You can keep that weed.
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Pac-12 Fumbling Lucrative TV Offer Was Beginning Of End, As Last Four Schools Now Seek Safe Haven
There will be regret from Pac-12 members for years to come over what could've been a media deal that saved the conference from ESPN.
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However, a deal that was presented in the Fall of 2022 could’ve saved the conference, looking back now. ESPN had presented George Kliavkoff with an offer of $30 million per year, for each school and the conference media rights. Pac-12 chancellors and presidents told him to reject it, after Kliavkoff said they could do better.
Ouch!
The PAC could have beaten the B12 to the punch on a network deal in the fall of 2022 and passed. That deal would have been worth 30mm a team. Its almost like they wanted to fail.
Has the PAC made an actual 'good decision' about anythingPac-12 Fumbling Lucrative TV Offer Was Beginning Of End, As Last Four Schools Now Seek Safe Haven
There will be regret from Pac-12 members for years to come over what could've been a media deal that saved the conference from ESPN.
However, a deal that was presented in the Fall of 2022 could’ve saved the conference, looking back now. ESPN had presented George Kliavkoff with an offer of $30 million per year, for each school and the conference media rights. Pac-12 chancellors and presidents told him to reject it, after Kliavkoff said they could do better.
Ouch!
The PAC could have beaten the B12 to the punch on a network deal in the fall of 2022 and passed. That deal would have been worth 30mm a team. Its almost like they wanted to fail.
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Negative Ghost Rider....they had no clue where the pattern was.
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its hard to believe that Larry Scott was the better option
Worked out for us! We are now in a legit big time program that actually takes athletics seriously. Sorry PAC, best of luck to those remaining.