To the current CFP, we hardly knew you ...

[WhosYourDawggy]

I've been posting it was going to change. Here's Sankey letting us know in no uncertain terms, it's changing:

"Right now, you put it in bold letters that things are going to change. Period," Sankey told ESPN in a recent interview. "And we're all going to have to be prepared to deal with that change. Period."

"The circumstances have changed, and we need to reconsider the format," Sankey said. "I'm not convinced we need to reconsider the number of teams, and I've been clear that I would have been OK with an eight-team playoff with no conference champion access. That wasn't, if you will, politically tenable within the group. So as we continued to look at the models, we came up with the six-and-six model. But, again, the circumstances have changed in a meaningful way, and my inclination is we need to reexamine the current format."

SEC boss: Must 'rethink' CFP amid realignment

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says things will continue to change in the college football landscape and that the CFP format should be reconsidered after the latest conference reshuffling.

www.espn.com

 

[Wild Turkey]

I've been posting it was going to change. Here's Sankey letting us know in no uncertain terms, it's changing:

"Right now, you put it in bold letters that things are going to change. Period," Sankey told ESPN in a recent interview. "And we're all going to have to be prepared to deal with that change. Period."

"The circumstances have changed, and we need to reconsider the format," Sankey said. "I'm not convinced we need to reconsider the number of teams, and I've been clear that I would have been OK with an eight-team playoff with no conference champion access. That wasn't, if you will, politically tenable within the group. So as we continued to look at the models, we came up with the six-and-six model. But, again, the circumstances have changed in a meaningful way, and my inclination is we need to reexamine the current format."

SEC boss: Must 'rethink' CFP amid realignment

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says things will continue to change in the college football landscape and that the CFP format should be reconsidered after the latest conference reshuffling.

www.espn.com

Let’s be real 4 teams worked and we rarely had 4 that even deserved to be there.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Let’s be real 4 teams worked and we rarely had 4 that even deserved to be there.

But did it? I would contend that all we have to do is go back to last year - Bama or UTjr would have been a better team than TCU. In a 12 team playoff, no way TCU wins 4 in a row. You guys would have been in the CFP in 2018 when we beat you guys in the SECCG. Wouldn't you have liked that opportunity? That's what it's about ... giving more access, even if the same 4-6 teams will win most of them, with that 4-6 cycling in and out.

 

[Wild Turkey]

But did it? I would contend that all we have to do is go back to last year - Bama or UTjr would have been a better team than TCU. In a 12 team playoff, no way TCU wins 4 in a row. You guys would have been in the CFP in 2018 when we beat you guys in the SECCG. Wouldn't you have liked that opportunity? That's what it's about ... giving more access, even if the same 4-6 teams will win most of them, with that 4-6 cycling in and out.

Neither us nor Bama deserved to be there. You guys were clearly the champs and earned it on the field and I'm not into this second-chance loser shit that people like Oregon fans hang their hats on.

In bowls:
Oregon just barely beat UNC.
USC lost to Tulane
Clemson lost to Tenn (that had a ton of injuries and would not have run the gauntlet)
ND almost lost to SC

LSU looked like they could compete at the end of the year but still had 4 losses on the year and were lucky to get by Auburn who was terrible.

The 4 team system works but they will still expand and that's fine but it's not because we can't find the best team without the expansion.

 

[PeoplesChicken]

I like the idea of expansion of the playoff format selfishly because I love CFB and hate to see the season end. But this is a cash cow and no one is going to avoid that

 

[cwerph]

Neither us nor Bama deserved to be there. You guys were clearly the champs and earned it on the field and I'm not into this second-chance loser shit that people like Oregon fans hang their hats on.

In bowls:
Oregon just barely beat UNC.
USC lost to Tulane
Clemson lost to Tenn (that had a ton of injuries and would not have run the gauntlet)
ND almost lost to SC

LSU looked like they could compete at the end of the year but still had 4 losses on the year and were lucky to get by Auburn who was terrible.

The 4 team system works but they will still expand and that's fine but it's not because we can't find the best team without the expansion.

Yep. This is not about more football or better football. It's about MO MONEY!!!

 

[Wild Turkey]

Yep. This is not about more football or better football. It's about MO MONEY!!!

Out off the 4 teams we typically have one really good game, maybe two if we are lucky. Someone or multiple teams always get destroyed.

 

[Deep Creek]

Yep. This is not about more football or better football. It's about MO MONEY!!!

100% right. But I'd say ALL the changes are about MO MONEY!!!

 

[tabascojet]

Neither us nor Bama deserved to be there. You guys were clearly the champs and earned it on the field and I'm not into this second-chance loser shit that people like Oregon fans hang their hats on.

In bowls:
Oregon just barely beat UNC.
USC lost to Tulane
Clemson lost to Tenn (that had a ton of injuries and would not have run the gauntlet)
ND almost lost to SC

LSU looked like they could compete at the end of the year but still had 4 losses on the year and were lucky to get by Auburn who was terrible.

The 4 team system works but they will still expand and that's fine but it's not because we can't find the best team without the expansion.

No team outside of the final four even care about the bowl game...opt outs and transfer portal rules the day

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Neither us nor Bama deserved to be there. You guys were clearly the champs and earned it on the field and I'm not into this second-chance loser shit that people like Oregon fans hang their hats on.

In bowls:
Oregon just barely beat UNC.
USC lost to Tulane
Clemson lost to Tenn (that had a ton of injuries and would not have run the gauntlet)
ND almost lost to SC

LSU looked like they could compete at the end of the year but still had 4 losses on the year and were lucky to get by Auburn who was terrible.

The 4 team system works but they will still expand and that's fine but it's not because we can't find the best team without the expansion.

As others have pointed out, looking at non-CFP bowls is a fools errand. They are worthless with all the opt-outs, etc.

I disagree that you shouldn't have been there. You beat us and Bama in the regular season. Yes, we beat you in the SECCG, but who says you don't win it all that year? You should have had a chance to do so.

And there is no doubt that UTjr and Bama would have also run TCU out of the building ... that is enough to justify a larger playoff, in my mind. Besides, who doesn't want more good CFB?

 

[CoalTrain]

Michigan v Appy State 2007, did it ruin Michigan’s season? Not really, they still finished 2nd in conference and beat Florida in their bowl game. So why do we all still talk about it and remember it fondly?

How has TCU’s accomplishments in football the last….. 12-14 years affected their enrollment?

On the surface I’m not crazy about more inclusion in the playoffs but, I can also see the benefits for all parties involved. When there is a huge upset (and we all know that they WILL happen from time to time) the fans will enjoy it and talk about them for years regardless if the underdog wins again or not. The schools will likely benefit from the exposure. It’s been proven that when football teams do well, enrollment increases and the university loves that. TV wins either way as the upsets draw in eyeballs but the big brands which also draw eyeballs are likely to keep winning the champions anyway so… bring em on.

 

[Wild Turkey]

As others have pointed out, looking at non-CFP bowls is a fools errand. They are worthless with all the opt-outs, etc.

I disagree that you shouldn't have been there. You beat us and Bama in the regular season. Yes, we beat you in the SECCG, but who says you don't win it all that year? You should have had a chance to do so.

And there is no doubt that UTjr and Bama would have also run TCU out of the building ... that is enough to justify a larger playoff, in my mind. Besides, who doesn't want more good CFB?

Bama and UGA beat us up so bad physically we couldn’t have fielded a healthy o-line or a back that even 75% healthy. We literally got beat by UCF in the bowl game and limped through that.

I love my team but let’s be realist there was nothing left in the tank. We weren’t beating anyone. That was the problem with Malzahn’s teams he didn’t recruit o-line so there was no depth and he ran the backs into the ground until they were in the ICU.

Look at the Sugar Bowl against Oklahoma the one shitty QB we had broke his arm on the first drive we were down to one RB who was struggling to walk and couldn’t move the ball. There is only so much a D can do. That was the legacy of Malzahn.

 

[TaikoTiger]

In before 16 or 24 teams but 12 team was fun while it lasted

 

[Deep Creek]

It’s been proven that when football teams do well, enrollment increases and the university loves that.

I'm sure that is true for public schools and a slight increase for private schools. While enrollment may not have increased, I remember reading about applications going up four to five fold at Baylor when RGIII won the Heisman and TCU beat Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.

 

[OlyDuck]

As others have pointed out, looking at non-CFP bowls is a fools errand. They are worthless with all the opt-outs, etc.

I disagree that you shouldn't have been there. You beat us and Bama in the regular season. Yes, we beat you in the SECCG, but who says you don't win it all that year? You should have had a chance to do so.

And there is no doubt that UTjr and Bama would have also run TCU out of the building ... that is enough to justify a larger playoff, in my mind. Besides, who doesn't want more good CFB?

why is there no doubt? Tenn and Bama were not UGA. Would they beat them? likely but i dont know about running them out the the building

 

[dhoey]

Jesus help us. Win your conference and keep playing. Done, over with, move on or go home. No wild cards, no committee, no picking or choosing the "best", "most deserving" teams.

 

[osubuckeye89]

But did it? I would contend that all we have to do is go back to last year - Bama or UTjr would have been a better team than TCU. In a 12 team playoff, no way TCU wins 4 in a row. You guys would have been in the CFP in 2018 when we beat you guys in the SECCG. Wouldn't you have liked that opportunity? That's what it's about ... giving more access, even if the same 4-6 teams will win most of them, with that 4-6 cycling in and out.

It makes me laugh that people think a 12 team playoff is going to make recruits all of a sudden stop going to the top schools they already go to, "because they will have a chance to win elsewhere!"

Because recruits are going to fall in love with teams like TCU/Cincinnati winning 1 playoff game maybe and then getting bounced hard in the 2nd round.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Also lol of course the SEC wants a 8 team playoff with no conference championship requirement.

 

[Across The Field]

LSU looked like they could compete at the end of the year but still had 4 losses on the year and were lucky to get by Auburn who was terrible.

They got throttled vs A&M and UGA in their last two games before bowl season and then lit up an awful Purdue team that was practically holding open tryouts for their bowl game due to having such an excessive number of players sit out. What made them look like they could compete in the CFP?

 

[osubuckeye89]

They got throttled vs A&M and UGA in their last two games before bowl season and then lit up an awful Purdue team that was practically holding open tryouts for their bowl game due to having such an excessive number of players sit out. What made them look like they could compete in the CFP?

Yea LSU got pumped up off of barely beating one of Saban's more mediocre teams (by Bama standards) and pounding a Ole Miss team that proved to clearly be fools gold after losing 5 of their last 6 games (They beat nobody in their 7-0 start)

They got throttled by Tennessee, throttled by a bad A&M team and were non competitive against UGA. They also barely beat Arkansas and Auburn.

I've seen the revisionist narrative though from SEC honks that LSU was "dominant" outside of the games they had to face the OTHER SEC JUGGERNAUTS!