To the current CFP, we hardly knew you ...

The mid level ACC schools took a beating this year in the portal, for example.

Wake Forest & NC State lost their QBs. NC State's transferred to Kentucky, I guess its better to be middling in the SEC than the ACC?
 
A 12 team playoff is gonna kill whatever parity is left. Bama, UGA, Ohio State, or LSU will be the national champion every year. 4 team playoff killed 90% of parity. The BCS actually gave us some good parity because 1 loss basically eliminated all of these top programs
 
Mistaken4193 said:
A 12 team playoff is gonna kill whatever parity is left. Bama, UGA, Ohio State, or LSU will be the national champion every year. 4 team playoff killed 90% of parity. The BCS actually gave us some good parity because 1 loss basically eliminated all of these top programs
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Yep the extra teams are mostly just for show and more revenue $$$. Most of time its going to be the same handful of teams making the final 4.
 
It it means we can go back to 12 team conferences, I’d rather just go back to the BCS
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
This is one of those threads where we are getting way away from the original discission. Here is how my posting started:


But did it? I would contend that all we have to do is go back to last year - Bama or UTjr would have been a better team than TCU. In a 12 team playoff, no way TCU wins 4 in a row. You guys would have been in the CFP in 2018 when we beat you guys in the SECCG. Wouldn't you have liked that opportunity? That's what it's about ... giving more access, even if the same 4-6 teams will win most of them, with that 4-6 cycling in and out.

I am not saying that TCU didn't belong. They did. What I was saying is that a 12 team CFP would also have had Bama, UTjr, and a couple other really good teams in it. I am thinking in that case TCU wouldn't have gotten out of the first round. I am disagreeing with the idea that a 4 team CFP works ... to me it didn't work last year to the extent that teams I think would have been more competitive than TCU did not get in.
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Last year we had two deserving teams and that was it. Everyone else would have gotten thumped also.
 
huskers1217 said:
georgia barely beat tOSU which beat Michigan.

all 4 teams deserved it and on any given day.

I think Michigan would have played Georgia better in the championship game that night.
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I agree. But Georgia's defense would have completely shut down Michigan's offense so it would have still been a yawner. Ohio State had talent closer to Georgia than Michigan or TCU.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
The thing with Michigan is that they are pretty much exclusively built to beat Ohio State and win the B1G

Problem is that build probably is not going to win them national titles.

They are good but they just don't have the umph to win 2 playoff games the way they are currently built.

I was very surprised they lost to TCU still though. Thought theyd beat them then get pantsed by UGA again.
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I can see that. And they were a conference champion. TCU was not.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'd still consider FSU and USC to be somewhat "upper level programs" even though they have not had very recent great success.

It will benefit those types of teams who arent quite there but not too far away. (Like FSU and USC)

But the true mid-low level schools its going to hurt because their best players are likely always going to be looking to climb the ladder.
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Yeah, I am not really talking about the Purdues and the NCSU or the Ole Misses.

Last 6 or 7 years have been dominated by:

Bama
UGA
Clemson
tOSU
OU

And some of:
LSU
UM
ND

with the 12 team CFP, we will see the following getting into the CFP and my guess is that it will help them recruit and be more relevant:

USC
Oregon
Washington
Utah

Texas
Auburn
UTjr
UF
ATM

FSU
UNC
Miami

PSU
Wisky
MSU

OkSU
TCU
KSU

With a 12-team CFP, these 26 additional teams will be able to rotate in and out, and every now and again win or win a few games.

Here is a list I published before, not including 2022.

2. CFP Involvement - I compiled the following list of schools that would have made a 12-team playoff if there had been a 12-team playoff from 2012-2021. Again, SEC candidates are in bold, and B1G candidates are underlined, and italicized teams for context:

10 Alabama
9 Ohio State
7 Clemson
7 Oklahoma
6 UGA
5 FSU
5 Oregon
5 Notre Dame
4 Florida
4 LSU
4 PSU
4 Stanford
4 Wisconsin
4 Baylor
4 Michigan State
3 Boise State
3 Kansas State
3 TCU
3 UCF
3 Washington
2 Auburn
2 South Carolina
2 Texas A&M
2 USC
2 Cincinnati
2 Oklahoma State
2 Ole Miss
2 Utah
1 Arizona
1 Arkansas
1 Coastal Carolina
1 Colorado
1 Houston
1 Indiana
1 Iowa
1 Iowa State
1 Memphis
1 Miami
1 Miss State
1 Missouri
1 UNC
1 Northern Illinois
1 Western Michigan
1 Pittsburgh
 
Wild Turkey said:
Last year we had two deserving teams and that was it. Everyone else would have gotten thumped also.
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Easy to say now. I don't get why you don't want more good CFB. Seems odd.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
These are the types of teams im speaking of that are going to be hurt more by the portal than benefit from it
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I kind of agree, but might benefit from the NIL and CFP. Also, there are a lot of players coming from UGA, Bama, etc. who go down and play for teams like that. UCF has a really good ILB who wasn't getting PT here. They will lose their best, but they get a lot of solid PT cast offs. Whatever happens, it will be interesting to look back in 10 years to see what has actually happened.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Easy to say now. I don't get why you don't want more good CFB. Seems odd.
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Majority of it isn’t going to be good but I’m not opposed just stating expansion of the playoff is unnecessary.

The only thing I see it accomplishing is giving idiots like @OregonDucks a reason to brag about making it in when they had no reason to be there and having to listen to idiots argue who should have been 13 or 14.

We aren’t improving the process just handing out participation trophies.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Majority of it isn’t going to be good but I’m not opposed just stating expansion of the playoff is unnecessary.

The only thing I see it accomplishing is giving idiots like @OregonDucks a reason to brag about making it in when they had no reason to be there and having to listen to idiots argue who should have been 13 or 14.

We aren’t improving the process just handing out participation trophies.
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Lol exactly. The Arguments for who shoulda gotten the 12th spot are gonna be hilarious.

And yes OD would 100% brag about "making it" was the like 11th/12th team and getting bounced right away. "WE ARE PLAYOFF CALIBER!"
 
Wild Turkey said:
Majority of it isn’t going to be good but I’m not opposed just stating expansion of the playoff is unnecessary.

The only thing I see it accomplishing is giving idiots like @OregonDucks a reason to brag about making it in when they had no reason to be there and having to listen to idiots argue who should have been 13 or 14.

We aren’t improving the process just handing out participation trophies.
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So you don't think this isn't going to be good? From last year:

Washington @ TCU
PSU @ tOSU
USC @ Bama
Kansas State @ Tenn

UGA v. Tenn (KSU)
UM v. Bama (USC)
Clemson v. tOSU (PSU)
Utah v. Washington (TCU)

UGA v. Utah
UM v. Bama

UGA v. Bama

UGA

That looks like a shit-ton of fun if you ask me.
 
101stAB said:
There will be upsets, and it will be glorious.
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I think that's what they are after more than anything at this point. That "March Madness moment" that seems to be missing from the meaningful CFB post season. Everyone talks about those for years or even decades regardless if the underdog gets creamed the next game or not and.. big picture that's good for the sport as they try and grow it in new areas and around the world.
 
I am, in no ways, an expert on tons of the stuff you all know about. With the expanded playoff (only speaking of 12 team deal, not sure what happens after that), there will be more college football. I like that. We can always say that team X shouldn't have been there after the game(s) have been played (a la TCU). Same thing happened with BCS, and the year Miami ate Nebraska's lunch, stole their girlfriends, etc. Plenty of other examples. March Madness moments can happen in the expanded playoff. The bad thing is if a star player is injured in the early rounds and that team loses. Will teams blame the loss on that one player not being able to play and that is the only reason the lower seeded team won?

The biggest question I have has to do with the future of the B1G and SEC. These conferences are going to be super powerful and possess tons of good to great team depth. I can see them beating each other up to a certain degree. I wonder if a two or three loss SEC team will make the playoffs ranked higher, because more than likely, those losses will still "mean more" than an ACC team with one loss.
 
Collegefbfan said:
I am, in no ways, an expert on tons of the stuff you all know about. With the expanded playoff (only speaking of 12 team deal, not sure what happens after that), there will be more college football. I like that. We can always say that team X shouldn't have been there after the game(s) have been played (a la TCU). Same thing happened with BCS, and the year Miami ate Nebraska's lunch, stole their girlfriends, etc. Plenty of other examples. March Madness moments can happen in the expanded playoff. The bad thing is if a star player is injured in the early rounds and that team loses. Will teams blame the loss on that one player not being able to play and that is the only reason the lower seeded team won?

The biggest question I have has to do with the future of the B1G and SEC. These conferences are going to be super powerful and possess tons of good to great team depth. I can see them beating each other up to a certain degree. I wonder if a two or three loss SEC team will make the playoffs ranked higher, because more than likely, those losses will still "mean more" than an ACC team with one loss.
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im not sure there will be more. I feel like there will be less. a few low tier bowls will go away.
 
OlyDuck said:
im not sure there will be more. I feel like there will be less. a few low tier bowls will go away.
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Oh yeah, I agree there. I should have said more playoff football.
 
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